The Fascist EU

[Big Blitz]

 

[Niagara Bill]

8 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

Do you think that Trump is just running his mouth like he often does or do you actually think that there would be a literal invasion of Canada?

 

The answer is the difference between a healthy skepticism of Trump and TDS.

He would and may. He will try to create a national emergency...as Hegseth eliminates staff and civilian employees who he thinks would not support orders they are making preparations. 

He is setting up his logic, Canada getting to close to China, threatening the oil and gas and steel and aluminum the US doesn't need, a leftist government to close to his dictatorship. All the typical rants. How can anyone even remotely consider the takeover of Greenland, a Danish territory, an allied territory, who has allowed and offered military base space, has allowed and encouraged US investment in minerals that Trump says he needs, that Trump sends his poodle boy to threaten 56,900 people in little Greenland. When you can have 100% of what you say you want with one smile, what can the possible motive be except war. Why would you waste you valued time if the goal is not far more sinister. You just want to enjoy being the bully.? Trump needs an invasion, that is the cover for his suspension of democratic principles, for canceling or postponing elections, for extending his term. Canada is the potential takeover to accomplish his real goal. 

For a guy who everyone says is an expert at "the art of the deal" he actually makes very few. Gaza, Panama, China, Ukraine,  Japan, Mexico, Canada, EU, Denmark, UK, .....not one deal. He has extracted money from some law firms, he has thrown out some illegal migrants, he has punished some political  opponents , He has fired thousands,...(he has saved some money which is good), he has abandoned his friends, threatened his friends, isolated the country, threatened judges. But oh yes, made a deal with Venezuela dictator to take some gang members back, those who he didn't send to concentration camp in Guantanamo.

This is not skepticism, this is happening.

[dgrochester55]

4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

He would and may. He will try to create a national emergency...as Hegseth eliminates staff and civilian employees who he thinks would not support orders they are making preparations. 

He is setting up his logic, Canada getting to close to China, threatening the oil and gas and steel and aluminum the US doesn't need, a leftist government to close to his dictatorship. All the typical rants. How can anyone even remotely consider the takeover of Greenland, a Danish territory, an allied territory, who has allowed and offered military base space, has allowed and encouraged US investment in minerals that Trump says he needs, that Trump sends his poodle boy to threaten 56,900 people in little Greenland. When you can have 100% of what you say you want with one smile, what can the possible motive be except war. Why would you waste you valued time if the goal is not far more sinister. You just want to enjoy being the bully.? Trump needs an invasion, that is the cover for his suspension of democratic principles, for canceling or postponing elections, for extending his term. Canada is the potential takeover to accomplish his real goal. 

For a guy who everyone says is an expert at "the art of the deal" he actually makes very few. Gaza, Panama, China, Ukraine,  Japan, Mexico, Canada, EU, Denmark, UK, .....not one deal. He has extracted money from some law firms, he has thrown out some illegal migrants, he has punished some political  opponents , He has fired thousands,...(he has saved some money which is good), he has abandoned his friends, threatened his friends, isolated the country, threatened judges. But oh yes, made a deal with Venezuela dictator to take some gang members back, those who he didn't send to concentration camp in Guantanamo.

This is not skepticism, this is happening.

 

So, TDS Then.

 

Do you not realize how played out TDS propaganda is? It is a huge part of why the approval rate of the democrat party and media is at an all time low despite some of Trump's most recent antics. If you were trying to convince me that it wasn't TDS with your post, it was not the most sound strategy. There is not one point in your post that does not scream out stage 4 TDS. Seriously, only someone with an unhealthy obsession and hatred would jump to that conclusion. Get help. No one person whether famous or not should have that much of an impact on your day to day life.

 

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 06:07 PM by dgrochester55

[Roundybout]

15 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

We have almost nothing in common with “liberals” anymore.  
 

The logical conclusion of their madness is something we can’t even begin contemplate.   

The ***t they’ll be defending in 10 years is just unfathomable.   

 

 

 

But no one is as powerful as a US District Court Judge.  

 

Why don't you want the President beholden to the same laws as everyone else? 

[Niagara Bill]

1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

So, TDS Then.

 

Do you not realize how played out TDS propaganda is? It is a huge part of why the approval rate of the democrat party and media is at an all time low despite some of Trump's most recent antics. If you were trying to convince me that it wasn't TDS with your post, it was not the most sound strategy. There is not one point in your post that does not scream out stage 4 TDS. Seriously, only someone with an unhealthy obsession and hatred would jump to that conclusion. Get help. No one person whether famous or not should have that much of an impact on your day to day life.

 

 

 

 

I am not a conspiracy, left wing guy  just reading the signs for my country and yours. You should sit back and read them to. 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

 

Why don't you want the President beholden to the same laws as everyone else? 

 

We can just make it up.  
 

There is NO action by the executive a court cannot put on hold. 
 

 

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

We can just make it up.  
 

There is NO action by the executive a court cannot put on hold. 
 

 

Okay then do you support Biden canceling student debt?

[dgrochester55]

2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

I am not a conspiracy, left wing guy  just reading the signs for my country and yours. You should sit back and read them to. 

If it wasn't TDS, your previous opinion would not have come off like an Alanis Morrisette bitter ex song. 

 

If you think that Trump would actually invade Canada, you, and only you have the problem.

[Niagara Bill]

3 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

If it wasn't TDS, your previous opinion would not have come off like an Alanis Morrisette bitter ex song. 

 

If you think that Trump would actually invade Canada, you, and only you have the problem.

And today he said he wants to have another term, even to the point of tricking the public to vote him as vp and let Vance resign. He is delusional.

You think invasion is not possible, then why does he say it. For a laugh with his buddies on the course, like another term is mentioned as a joke. 

Not Art if Deal, he has not made one. Canada is his best cover for longer stay...Manifest Destiny, his own Rushmore. 

 

[dgrochester55]

8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

And today he said he wants to have another term, even to the point of tricking the public to vote him as vp and let Vance resign. He is delusional.

You think invasion is not possible, then why does he say it. For a laugh with his buddies on the course, like another term is mentioned as a joke. 

Not Art if Deal, he has not made one. Canada is his best cover for longer stay...Manifest Destiny, his own Rushmore. 

 

Must be sad living in fear like that. It is solely due your own self-imposed prison.

Edited Sunday at 10:18 PM by dgrochester55

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

Okay then do you support Biden canceling student debt?

 

I’m not sure our argument was ever just about his authority to do so.  
 

Rather, just a completely gross use of potential presidential power.   
 

 

Deporting illegals committing crimes?  With no right to be here?  Eliminating the agencies that all fall under your purview - for example - USAID can just permanently exist?

 

Certain Federal workers can never be fired without what type of process exactly?

 

If you now need full control of Congress and the Courts to get significant things done - explain how this is a democracy?

 

 

Oooooooooooooooooooo that’s right -  We aren’t.   
 

 

[Niagara Bill]

1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said:

Must be sad living in fear like that. It is solely due your own self-imposed prison.

Yeah,  but I will vote next month...and I have a close view of the once most envied country in the world, maybe ever, destroy itself, or be destroyed. With the exception of maybe Russia, becoming the most untrustworthy nation. Sad times we are living in.

[dgrochester55]

55 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Yeah,  but I will vote next month...and I have a close view of the once most envied country in the world, maybe ever, destroy itself, or be destroyed. With the exception of maybe Russia, becoming the most untrustworthy nation. Sad times we are living in.

Next month? I get early voting, but that is a bit much. We wont even know who the Democrat superdelegates are going to hand pick over the people's choice of Bernie Sanders this time for a couple more years.

 

If you think that Trump is destroying the country, you must have been really upset when Biden was in office. He turned the US into everyone's punching bag and punchline while inviting every country to bring their worst of the worst here and calling his own citizens "racists" for questioning it. It is very hard to go lower than that.

 

Your "party of the people" focused solely on court cases and division while running this country into the ground by  driving up food and housing to a level that is unsustainable to a majority of the country while keeping us divided and more unsafe than ever.

 

I don't like everything that Trump does, but I will sure as hell give him more than three months to clean up the toxic embarrassing mess that the people ordering the senile figurehead around made between 2021 and 2024. If you cant cope with Trump and want to imagine schizophrenic scenarios, that is your call. If your party over the next four years decides to act like you have chosen to do, you can look forward to four years of Vance between 2028 and 2032.

Edited yesterday at 01:06 AM by dgrochester55

[SectionC3]

28 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

If you think that Trump is destroying the country, you must have been really upset when Biden was in office. He turned the US into everyone's punching bag and punchline while inviting every country to bring their worst of the worst here and calling his own citizens "racists" for questioning it. It is very hard to go lower than that.

 

Your "party of the people" focused solely on court cases and division while running this country into the ground by  driving up food and housing to a level that is unsustainable to a majority of the country while keeping us divided and more unsafe than ever.

 

I don't like everything that Trump does, but I will sure as hell give him more than three months to clean up the toxic embarrassing mess that the people ordering the senile figurehead around made between 2021 and 2024. If you cant cope with Trump and want to imagine schizophrenic scenarios, that is your call. If your party over the next four years decides to act like you have chosen to do, you can look forward to four years of Vance between 2028 and 2032.

Speaking of toxic embarrassing messes, did you get a job yet?  Lots of people are saying that there are a lot of MAGA on welfare, and there are a lot of people saying that you're MAGA.  Which leads the same people to conclude that you're a welfare queen.  Sad!

[Niagara Bill]

6 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

Next month? I get early voting, but that is a bit much. We wont even know who the Democrat superdelegates are going to hand pick over the people's choice of Bernie Sanders this time for a couple more years.

 

If you think that Trump is destroying the country, you must have been really upset when Biden was in office. He turned the US into everyone's punching bag and punchline while inviting every country to bring their worst of the worst here and calling his own citizens "racists" for questioning it. It is very hard to go lower than that.

 

Your "party of the people" focused solely on court cases and division while running this country into the ground by  driving up food and housing to a level that is unsustainable to a majority of the country while keeping us divided and more unsafe than ever.

 

I don't like everything that Trump does, but I will sure as hell give him more than three months to clean up the toxic embarrassing mess that the people ordering the senile figurehead around made between 2021 and 2024. If you cant cope with Trump and want to imagine schizophrenic scenarios, that is your call. If your party over the next four years decides to act like you have chosen to do, you can look forward to four years of Vance between 2028 and 2032.

1. I Vote in Canada, I am a fiscal conservative. I detest woke. Immigration is out of control. Religion is too strong in our countries, 

2. You will not see Vance in 28, you will be either in civil war or elections will be cancelled

3. It is often a trick of dictators to create external threats to take greater control internally...and trump is doing his best

4. Dictators also find internal enemies to blame and begin using the excuse to limit freedoms and the rule of justice and law. That started Jan 6. 

5. While you don't love everything that Trump does, you must watch the guardrails to democracy that he is removing. Congress is non existence. Blaming judges, question the rules of law, ignoring your own laws regarding immigrants, greencards, visas, executive orders replacing congressional bills, lose of trustworthiness by other nations etc etc. US oligarchs have taken power...of the government. While democrats regulation over reach has to be undone, not by Oligarchs, that is Russia, not America. Even the republican controlled congress isn't involved in removing regulations.

6. Biden should never have been elected, Harris is a joke and gutless, Vance is a bully and a joke, blue suits and red ties are the new brown shirts, politicians always stretch the truth, but some now get cheers for outright lying. 

7. America had greatness that went way too far left. America no longer has greatness in the eyes of the world as they have shown to be untrustworthy and threatening. 

I just hope your congress grows some balls. A terrible situation when Bernie Sanders is the only voice, and he sounds reasonable. 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

On 3/9/2025 at 6:14 PM, Niagara Bill said:

To a bill was introduced in congress to ensure trump must get approval to invade Canada. This is what the US has become in 8weeks. Anyone with clear eyes can see trumps Manifest Destiny approach. 

You know it will never get passed because of the fear of Republicans of trump,  but that day is coming soon, a clash over trumps views of taking what he wants and the rule of law. 

The founding fathers must be rolling over..

Dude, we're not invading Canada.  I promise.  Our idiot is ball-busting to make himself appear strong in the eyes of some Americans, but he's fundamentally flawed, and would never have the support of enough of us... and he knows it- don't stress.  
 

And we're not invading Greenland either.  
 

Don't forget the first ***** rule of authoritarians, or wannabe authoritarians- they're afraid to lose power more than anything else on this planet- it's their driving force, and what makes them such weak rulers.  Their own chicken-***** natures won't allow them to put themselves in a position where they can be effectively challenged.  It is always all sabre-rattling with this type.  
 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:33 AM by BringMetheHeadofLeonLett

[Roundybout]

12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I’m not sure our argument was ever just about his authority to do so.  
 

Rather, just a completely gross use of potential presidential power.   
 

 

Deporting illegals committing crimes?  With no right to be here?  Eliminating the agencies that all fall under your purview - for example - USAID can just permanently exist?

 

Certain Federal workers can never be fired without what type of process exactly?

 

If you now need full control of Congress and the Courts to get significant things done - explain how this is a democracy?

 

 

Oooooooooooooooooooo that’s right -  We aren’t.   
 

 

Same thing as Biden - Trump/DOGE doesn’t have authority to do it himself/itself. 
 

Get Congress to pass a law for it. Thats how this works. 
 

Letting one guy make all the decisions is a monarchy. I don’t want a monarchy. 

[dgrochester55]

8 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

1. I Vote in Canada, I am a fiscal conservative. I detest woke. Immigration is out of control. Religion is too strong in our countries, 

2. You will not see Vance in 28, you will be either in civil war or elections will be cancelled

3. It is often a trick of dictators to create external threats to take greater control internally...and trump is doing his best

4. Dictators also find internal enemies to blame and begin using the excuse to limit freedoms and the rule of justice and law. That started Jan 6. 

5. While you don't love everything that Trump does, you must watch the guardrails to democracy that he is removing. Congress is non existence. Blaming judges, question the rules of law, ignoring your own laws regarding immigrants, greencards, visas, executive orders replacing congressional bills, lose of trustworthiness by other nations etc etc. US oligarchs have taken power...of the government. While democrats regulation over reach has to be undone, not by Oligarchs, that is Russia, not America. Even the republican controlled congress isn't involved in removing regulations.

6. Biden should never have been elected, Harris is a joke and gutless, Vance is a bully and a joke, blue suits and red ties are the new brown shirts, politicians always stretch the truth, but some now get cheers for outright lying. 

7. America had greatness that went way too far left. America no longer has greatness in the eyes of the world as they have shown to be untrustworthy and threatening. 

I just hope your congress grows some balls. A terrible situation when Bernie Sanders is the only voice, and he sounds reasonable. 

 

So overall, your opinions seem reasonable and since you are in Canada, I can understand your viewpoint much better now as Trump has not treated Canada well.  IMO, Trump only got in because the democrats held on to Biden way too long despite clear signs of cognitive decline and then managed to pick the one option that was even worse than him once it was too obvious to hide it any further. I mistaking thought that you were a typical US TDS person, my apologies.

 

I am actually moderate leaning conservative and not  MAGA. We just went through four years of economic disaster where the lower and middle class are being priced out of day-to-day life. There was partisan division from a President who was clearly on the decline with a media that did nothing but gaslight about everything telling us that BIden was fine, the economy was better than ever, and that freedom of speech was great, but conservative opinions were "just too dangerous." This may be why the leash is a little longer for Trump to me that it may have been in the past. I wanted Haley to get in in the Primaries and would have settled for anyone else, but once Trump got in, I was willing to take that leap.

 

As far as an invasion of Canada, I of course would be 100 percent against it. In addition, 80-90 percent of Americans would also be against it.  I do not think that it would happen even if he tried to pull it off. There is constant resistance to Trump overall and many of the Republicans who were against him until Biden and Harris became worse would not stand for it. We also have a 25th amendment in place where a President can be removed if they become a danger or incapacitated, my trust is that out country has enough checks and balances to get rid of him (or anyone else in the future who goes rogue) if things got out of hand.

 

My biggest pet peeve is the media in the US. You have CNN and NBCNews who question and fact check every single thing that Trump does and Fox that worships him. Neither are reasonable ways to stay informed, but al least  there is now NewsNation if you want a more balanced take on tv. MAGA and TDS both bother me, but only the TDS crowd has control of the media and shoved it down our throat for eight years. That is why I came off as so fed up. The US will not get less divided and extreme on both sides until the media goes back to being news instead of Media entertainment.

 

I hope that things can mellow out in the next few months and that Canada and the US will be on better terms again.

Edited 23 hours ago by dgrochester55

[Big Blitz]

 

 

Because now she’s a threat

 

 

"The judge emphasized that this was not about personal enrichment—Le Pen and her co-defendants didn’t pocket the money themselves—but rather a deliberate misuse of public funds."

 

Again. This practice went on for over 20 years. In all that time, no one suggested it was a misuse of public funds until 2024. 

[Roundybout]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Because now she’s a threat

 

 

"The judge emphasized that this was not about personal enrichment—Le Pen and her co-defendants didn’t pocket the money themselves—but rather a deliberate misuse of public funds."

 

Again. This practice went on for over 20 years. In all that time, no one suggested it was a misuse of public funds until 2024. 

(clears throat) 

 

DONT DO CRIMES. 
 

 

Enjoy rotting in jail, loser!