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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Cool, glad it's finally being acknowledged after nearly 10 pages of people claiming otherwise.

Agreed. I want Allen to be our QB for the rest of his career, I just would have expected a proper extension. Isn't the whole point of a long term contract that ideally you start to reap the rewards of inflation on the back half of as money gets cheaper? If you're not getting that benefit what's the point? Would have made more sense to me to give him a 4-6 year extension at something life $65m/yr that takes him near the end of his career. Now we're paying him more this year and we have to do it all over again in 4-5 years.

It's a lot simpler just to rip the contract up and do another one.  The fact that he's making less about four million per year than Dak makes this a home town discount.  He could've said $65m/year with $300m guaranteed or I'm requesting a trade.  Mahomes basically did the same thing but they had to make it more complicated because that organization does everything in the most nauseating way possible.  He's basically on year 2 of 4 of a fully guaranteed $210.6m contract at $52.7m per year.  Even more team friendly considering he's the best in the NFL.

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a lot simpler just to rip the contract up and do another one.  The fact that he's making less about four million per year than Dak makes this a home town discount.  He could've said $65m/year with $300m guaranteed or I'm requesting a trade.  Mahomes basically did the same thing but they had to make it more complicated because that organization does everything in the most nauseating way possible.  He's basically on year 2 of a fully guaranteed $210.6m per year contract at $52.7m per year.  Even more team friendly considering he's the best in the NFL.

The Mahomes contract actually makes a ton of sense to me. They signed a 10 year deal and locked him up the rest of his career at the QB money from 4 years ago and the restructuring is going to give them a 2020 cap hit in 2028. If they did that with Allen, I'd be all for it. I just want to see moves that give the team advantages to get better

It seems like we're still over the cap, and with our current roster, we haven't talented enough to win. I don't love that combo. Of course they'll get under, but it seems like we passed on the marque additions at WR and DE. That makes me think they disagree with the notion that they need an infusion of talent, and instead they believe their lack of postseason success is a fixable problem with the talent currently on the roster. To me that's very, very concerning.

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12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

The Mahomes contract actually makes a ton of sense to me. They signed a 10 year deal and locked him up the rest of his career at the QB money from 4 years ago and the restructuring is going to give them a 2020 cap hit in 2028. If they did that with Allen, I'd be all for it. I just want to see moves that give the team advantages to get better

It seems like we're still over the cap, and with our current roster, we haven't talented enough to win. I don't love that combo. Of course they'll get under, but it seems like we passed on the marque additions at WR and DE. That makes me think they disagree with the notion that they need an infusion of talent, and instead they believe their lack of postseason success is a fixable problem with the talent currently on the roster. To me that's very, very concerning.

We're definitely cap compliant now with cutting Von and giving Josh a new contract.  At least $20m under I'm guessing.  I definitely agree with the bolded though.  We could've had Metcalf for a fricken 2nd and a 4th pry giving Allen a borderline elite #1 outside WR for the next five years.  It was a rare opportunity and Beane blew it.  Plain and simple.

 

Edit:  My point still stands about the Chiefs though.  Doing cap gymnastics to make it seem like he's vastly underpaid at $45m per year because he takes less to win more like Brady simply isn't true.  God I hate everything about that team.

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7 hours ago, Toledo Bill said:

Ralph is cheap... but Pegula is not!

I remember when the news broke that Ralph had signed Joe Cribbs to a unique contract paying him $250 per rushing yard.  Except that Ralph came out and said that's not true, it's $25 per rushing yard.

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2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Cool, glad it's finally being acknowledged after nearly 10 pages of people claiming otherwise.

Agreed. I want Allen to be our QB for the rest of his career, I just would have expected a proper extension. Isn't the whole point of a long term contract that ideally you start to reap the rewards of inflation on the back half of as money gets cheaper? If you're not getting that benefit what's the point? Would have made more sense to me to give him a 4-6 year extension at something life $65m/yr that takes him near the end of his career. Now we're paying him more this year and we have to do it all over again in 4-5 years.

It always depends.  There are different reasons for an extension or new contract.  In this case he deserved a raise now and is getting it.  The point is you make his contract more in line with others which helps keep him in Buffalo and at the same time you free up space now.  It is also team friendly when you look at the Dak deal…others also.   Diggs got rises nearly every year.  Other guys get extensions. 

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