Free Agency Rumor Thread

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

What "rookie records" did he shatter?    He has the 11th most receiving yards by a rookie TE ever.......even though he was really not also used as an inline TE like almost everyone else on the top 25.   Shattered?  Not close.  His 673 is over 500 yards less than the current rookie record.   He's also the only one on the top 25 to not even average at least 10 yards per catch.   9.2 is pathetic.  Kincaid basically replicated the low impact production from the slot that got Cole Beasley cut after the 2021 season and then followed that up with a much worse sophomore season.   Dude is also going to be 26 this year.  Not some raw kid.

Kincaid has been a disappointment. He really needs to bulk up,and step up.

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yep he didn't play well thru injury either.   Two bad hands as well.

I got roasted before he played a down as a bill  for wondering what they saw in him. Seemed liked an undersized te and slow big wr. I was told he has a unique skill set and elite body control and hands. When will we see that? Thus far he has been a dump off and get tackled by the first tackler guy. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

48 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I got roasted before he played a down as a bill  for wondering what they saw in him. Seemed liked an undersized te and slow big wr. I was told he has a unique skill set and elite body control and hands. When will we see that? Thus far he has been a dump off and get tackled by the first tackler guy. 

He really needs to add mass and strength this offseason

[BillMafia716ix]

31 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He really needs to add mass and strength this offseason

The loss of Diggs hurt him. Kincaid was projected to be the main guy in our offense and teams planned to take him away and he couldn’t adjust. 

[MiltonWaddams]

This is a great Kincaid thread 

[boyst]

10 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

LOL.  I tried earlier.  

Lots of these threads get a little tangential to the original topic but this one took a "Thelma and Louise" right off the cliff. 

There are exactly 6 topics that are permitted to get a topic off course:

1) pickle juice in Italian cuisine

2) 3.5

3) parking your 350z and filing a police report because you lost it 

4) firefighters being arsonists

5) gugny

6) male nursing

[4merper4mer]

36 minutes ago, boyst said:

There are exactly 6 topics that are permitted to get a topic off course:

1) pickle juice in Italian cuisine

2) 3.5

3) parking your 350z and filing a police report because you lost it 

4) firefighters being arsonists

5) gugny

6) male nursing

All of those topics return like they are the particle sun.

[TBBills Fan]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

There are exactly 6 topics that are permitted to get a topic off course:

1) pickle juice in Italian cuisine

2) 3.5

3) parking your 350z and filing a police report because you lost it 

4) firefighters being arsonists

5) gugny

6) male nursing

7. If the fate of earth depended on it, would it be easier to teach astronauts how to drill or oil rig workers how to be astronauts?  I don't want to miss a thing

Edited Tuesday at 12:19 PM by TBBills Fan

[Jdragon2]

1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said:

7. If the fate of earth depended on it, would it be easier that teach astronauts how to drill or oil rig workers how to be astronauts?  I don't want to miss a thing

 

I think its dependent on one of them having Liv Tyler as a daughter,

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

There are exactly 6 topics that are permitted to get a topic off course:

1) pickle juice in Italian cuisine

2) 3.5

3) parking your 350z and filing a police report because you lost it 

4) firefighters being arsonists

5) gugny

6) male nursing

Thank me later: https://www.smoking-meat.com/how-to-reverse-sear-smoked-ribeye-steaks

[Blainorama5]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

There are exactly 6 topics that are permitted to get a topic off course:

1) pickle juice in Italian cuisine

2) 3.5

3) parking your 350z and filing a police report because you lost it 

4) firefighters being arsonists

5) gugny

6) male nursing

7) Ertz  😉

[ddaryl]

16 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

What "rookie records" did he shatter?    He has the 11th most receiving yards by a rookie TE ever.......even though he was really not also used as an inline TE like almost everyone else on the top 25.   Shattered?  Not close.  His 673 is over 500 yards less than the current rookie record.   He's also the only one on the top 25 to not even average at least 10 yards per catch.   9.2 is pathetic.  Kincaid basically replicated the low impact production from the slot that got Cole Beasley cut after the 2021 season and then followed that up with a much worse sophomore season.   Dude is also going to be 26 this year.  Not some raw kid.

 

 

Bills TE receiving records not the NFL TE records. He is 1st overall for receptions by a TE, He is 2nd overall for yards.

Knox hasn't exactly lit it up with his contract either, and yet both players are here and better than most of the TEs we've rolled through

In fact Kincaid has been the better offensive weapon of the 2 - TEs by a sizeable chunk

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3930086/dawson-knox

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4385690/dalton-kincaid



I do not understand AT ALL the negative posts coming from people against Kinkaid. He had a semi down year with injury, but so did Knox the year before but at a stiffer salary cost.

[OldTimer1960]

13 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

The loss of Diggs hurt him. Kincaid was projected to be the main guy in our offense and teams planned to take him away and he couldn’t adjust. 

He was playing on a bad knee last year.  I do agree that he needs to get stronger and I believe the Bills told him that.  

I don't want to be too critical of the Kincaid pick - I was excited when they made it, but Kincaid and Kaiir Elam are examples of why I don't want the Bills to trade up in round 1.  They are sitting late in the round where you're doing well to get a good solid starter and jumping up 4-5 spots isn't going to change that outlook very much.

[Doc Brown]

17 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

What "rookie records" did he shatter?    He has the 11th most receiving yards by a rookie TE ever.......even though he was really not also used as an inline TE like almost everyone else on the top 25.   Shattered?  Not close.  His 673 is over 500 yards less than the current rookie record.   He's also the only one on the top 25 to not even average at least 10 yards per catch.   9.2 is pathetic.  Kincaid basically replicated the low impact production from the slot that got Cole Beasley cut after the 2021 season and then followed that up with a much worse sophomore season.   Dude is also going to be 26 this year.  Not some raw kid.

Most receiving yards by a rookie TE in Bills history.  The pick is looking worse and worse by the day as we roll out Palmer and Coleman as our "best" outside WR weapons.

[The Jokeman]

10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Most receiving yards by a rookie TE in Bills history.  The pick is looking worse and worse by the day as we roll out Palmer and Coleman as our "best" outside WR weapons.

and which outside WR drafted after Kincaid would have been a better pick in 2023?  As I want to know the stud we missed out on.

Edited Tuesday at 06:44 PM by The Jokeman

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

and which outside WR drafted after Kincaid would have been a better pick in 2023?  As I want to know the stud we missed out on.

I’m not going to MMQB it because I liked the Kincaid pick at the time (or at least didn’t hate it). With the benefit of hindsight though, both Rice and Puka are far superior players. 

[Homelander]

On 3/10/2025 at 12:45 PM, jaybeezee said:

Yes, but only Greenbay compares to us. Many other cold weather teams, or even semi cold weather teams have moved to building domestic. Cleveland and Chicago's new stadium will be a domed. They know that this new generation of players want to play in warm weather. It does effect how your body deals with injuries.

 

Speaking of Cleveland:

 

 

[Bag of Milk]

12 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

This is a great Kincaid thread 

Every thread is now a Kincaid thread!

[Blank Stare]

7 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

Speaking of Cleveland:

 

 

They renovate an old Macy’s?

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Bills TE receiving records not the NFL TE records. He is 1st overall for receptions by a TE, He is 2nd overall for yards.

Knox hasn't exactly lit it up with his contract either, and yet both players are here and better than most of the TEs we've rolled through

In fact Kincaid has been the better offensive weapon of the 2 - TEs by a sizeable chunk

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3930086/dawson-knox

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4385690/dalton-kincaid



I do not understand AT ALL the negative posts coming from people against Kinkaid. He had a semi down year with injury, but so did Knox the year before but at a stiffer salary cost.

 

 

Knox has been criticized aplenty on TSW.   It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.   Not sure what you think the links you posted represent but it's apples and oranges.  Knox is a real, inline TE.   And still.......when targeted he has been WAY more effective than Kincaid.   He just isn't put out in the route every snap like Kincaid was as a rookie.   Your bulk catch/yard stats don't show that Allen has had a much higher passer rating when targeting the more dynamic Knox.  

 

Kincaid was the first TE the Bills ever drafted to not actually play TE.   That's the only reason why he has one of the most modest and unimpressive team records on the books.   He was nothing more than a slot receiver as a rookie and his production was high volume and toothless.  

 

When Cole Beasley flamed out in 2021 he could still play patty-cake with the QB in front of the sticks like Kincaid has.  Caught the same 82 passes as in 2020 but for almost 300 less total yards.  11.8 ypc down to 8.5.   He could not get past the sticks consistently with RAC like he had in prior years when he had some spring left in his legs.  Kincaid has that same malady and he was only 24 and 25 in his first 2 seasons not washed and old like Cole.   He is two years in and STILL averages less than 10 yards per grab for his career and has a knack for not being able to fight for the extra yardage to move the chains.  

 

With Kincaid not getting the job done in the slot they tried to diversify his role and have him play some TE and he didn't respond well to a more physical role.  His hands  became suspect and he couldn't catch a contested pass to save his life.   He is a talented athlete but has proven thus far to be way too soft for the job he is needed to do and has been a huge disappointment.   And McBeane were basically saying the same thing I am when they were critical of him after the season.