Free Agency Rumor Thread

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

In my opinion, his feel for finding the soft spot in zone coverage

 

I haven't actually seen that in his game though. I loved him coming out of Utah for that reason more than any other. He seemed to have a knack for making himself available to his QB. That ability is what makes Kelce an all-time talent. But somehow in the transition from college to the NFL he seems to have lost that ability IMO. Too many times I see him over-run an open window in zone or fail to adjust his route properly. I've come to believe the NFL is just too fast for him and he doesn't have the natural instincts that a player like him needs to be successful. He's never going to physically dominate so he needs to cerebrally dominate.

[Andrew Son]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

False.

 

LOL.  Do you think the FG target line is the first down marker?!?!

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Andrew Son said:

LOL.  Do you think the FG target line is the first down marker?!?!

Holy hell, them gummies kicked in haha

[TheWeatherMan]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Ah, so Kincaid is the 2025 Offseason Whipping boy.

 

 

There’s more than one for this offseason.  Plenty of underperforming players (especially in the post season) on this roster to call out.  

[90sBills]

20 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Huh?  

You don’t see Allen trusting Kincaid for awhile because of the drop is assuming Allen has a personality like Aaron Rodgers. I see Allen as someone who would give Kincaid the first opportunity to redeem himself in a similar situation. Because that’s what I’d do. We usually make assumptions based on our own personality. 

 

That was all I meant. Nothing nefarious. 

[TheWeatherMan]

2 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

You don’t see Allen trusting Kincaid for awhile because of the drop is assuming Allen has a personality like Aaron Rodgers. I see Allen as someone who would give Kincaid the first opportunity to redeem himself in a similar situation. Because that’s what I’d do. We usually make assumptions based on our own personality. 

 

That was all I meant. Nothing nefarious. 

I believe it’s human nature not to trust someone who has failed you especially in a do or die situation.  Keep hiring that electrician that wired your house backwards…it’s the right thing to do. 

[KOKBILLS]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Just to explain myself on this - I am not usually one for trading players early, especially for a team like us where talent is more valuable than draft picks because our championship window is now. The difference for me with Kincaid is I see nothing to build on, physically or mentally. By the end of the season the team clearly had lost trust in him. They reverted back to his rookie year usage with quick passes/low air yards, instead preferring to use Knox on anything downfield. And yes I'll admit part of my feelings come because of that final play in the AFCCG.

 

So he doesn't physically dominate, he frequently isn't on the same page with his QB, his understanding of NFL leverage and reading the defense is below average, and he choked in a critical moment. So what exactly are we building on? What is the upside? Any optimism about Kincaid is 100% projection with no proof of concept at the NFL level. He can still turn out to be a solid player but to me that's his ceiling and I'd easily take a 3rd rounder for a solid player at a non-premium position.

 

This is one that I would prefer not to agree with you on, but my gut is telling me you're correct. And I would be lying if I did not say I had the exact same feelings about Kincaid by the end of last year. In fact I had a conversation with my nephew a few weeks ago and I said my worry with Kincaid is that he's just not physical enough to hold up in the NFL. He can't just be a finesse TE, especially in this Offense because that would really resign him to a limited role.

 

I don't know... Hope my gut is wrong. I think he can get stronger. Just wonder if he's got that dog in him. 

[90sBills]

19 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

I believe it’s human nature not to trust someone who has failed you especially in a do or die situation.  Keep hiring that electrician that wired your house backwards…it’s the right thing to do. 

Agreed. But there’s a difference between an electrician and a teammate (or family/coworkers/friends for most of us). Kincaid has to fail a couple of more times in similar circumstances to get that treatment. Haha. 

[Buffalo4Life01]

6 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Agreed. But there’s a difference between an electrician and a teammate (or family/coworkers/friends for most of us). Kincaid has to fail a couple of more times in similar circumstances to get that treatment. Haha. 

Exactly!  And no one is bringing up the handful of awful overthrows by Allen to Kincaid including the one that led to Dalton getting hurt on what should have been a walk in touchdown (he was wide open).

[DJB]

If you go numbers at the end of the season to judge Kincaid, Palmer or any other WR you can easily say they didn’t or won’t meet expectations in 2025
 

The Brady offense is predicated on spreading the ball around. We saw that the last few weeks Diggs was here. 
 

Does Kincaid need to be better? Yes he does. He needs to be more reliable, more explosive and add some toughness to his game . 
 

But if anyone thinks he is going to break out and put up top 5 or even top 10 TE stats they are setting themselves up for disappointment. I don’t see it happening in the Brady O

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, DJB said:

If you go numbers at the end of the season to judge Kincaid, Palmer or any other WR you can easily say they didn’t or won’t meet expectations in 2025
 

The Brady offense is predicated on spreading the ball around. We saw that the last few weeks Diggs was here. 
 

Does Kincaid need to be better? Yes he does. He needs to be more reliable, more explosive and add some toughness to his game . 
 

But if anyone thinks he is going to break out and put up top 5 or even top 10 TE stats they are setting themselves up for disappointment. I don’t see it happening in the Brady O

 

it's not just that....there isn't nearly enough vertical threat in his game.  He's been relegated to catching 5-6 yard passes for the most part 

[DJB]

6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

it's not just that....there isn't nearly enough vertical threat in his game.  He's been relegated to catching 5-6 yard passes for the most part 

Agreed and I’ve alluded to that in my previous post . 
 

Is it part scheme? Is it Kincaid? 
 

Likely a bit of both. 
 

He still absolutely needs to step up 

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, DJB said:

Agreed and I’ve alluded to that in my previous post . 
 

Is it part scheme? Is it Kincaid? 
 

Likely a bit of both. 
 

He still absolutely needs to step up 

 

I'll add one more.  It seems Josh and Dalton don't have things in sync.  Josh has been that way with others.  Some he has built a better

repour with, some he hasn't.

[Royale with Cheese]

22 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Agreed. But there’s a difference between an electrician and a teammate (or family/coworkers/friends for most of us). Kincaid has to fail a couple of more times in similar circumstances to get that treatment. Haha. 

 

Well they are two different industries and the comparisons aren't really comparable.

An electrician better have a near or damn near 100% success rate.  You're not getting anywhere near close to that with an NFL player.

[biggerdaddynj]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

There’s more than one for this offseason.  Plenty of underperforming players (especially in the post season) on this roster to call out.  

While we’re casting blame around let’s not forget that our coaching staffed got schooled by Reid and Spags (switching that last blitz on that last fourth down, man did that hurt).

Edited 19 hours ago by biggerdaddynj

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

There’s more than one for this offseason.  Plenty of underperforming players (especially in the post season) on this roster to call out.  

Those darn under performing players on a 13-3 team that scored the most TDs in franchise history!

 

Garsh darn them!

[mjt328]

8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Those darn under performing players on a 13-3 team that scored the most TDs in franchise history!

 

Garsh darn them!

 

It's amazing how sensitive some fans get about criticism of the Bills.

 

We all know how this team performs in the regular season, their great overall record, and how we consistently march into the playoffs as a supposed Super Bowl contender.  Five straight years we've been in that same position, and haven't even made it to the Super Bowl.

 

Are we just the unluckiest team in the league, and by doing the same thing and fielding the same kind of players year after year... eventually the law of averages will probably work in our favor?  Or is it possible that something on our team (talent, coaching, scheme, etc.)  is holding us back from taking the next step?  

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

I believe it’s human nature not to trust someone who has failed you especially in a do or die situation.  Keep hiring that electrician that wired your house backwards…it’s the right thing to do. 

It's a two way connection though and they know they have to make it work in order for the offense to be successful.  In this analogy you'd have a guaranteed one year salary with the electrician and you'd have to keep giving him more shots to get the wiring right.

[Augie]

59 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Well they are two different industries and the comparisons aren't really comparable.

An electrician better have a near or damn near 100% success rate.  You're not getting anywhere near close to that with an NFL player.

 

If the electricians have a low success rate, you have to hope the firefighters and the EMTs do better. 

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Well they are two different industries and the comparisons aren't really comparable.

An electrician better have a near or damn near 100% success rate.  You're not getting anywhere near close to that with an NFL player.

Sounds like you’re in agreement with my point.