Free Agency Rumor Thread

[Billl]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

But when you get the same maximized ceiling on a day 1 pick you get an all-pro to a perineal all pro.

You get a WHAT?

[Low Positive]

15 minutes ago, Billl said:

You get a WHAT?

That's some autocorrect gold. Taint it?

[Kirby Jackson]

9 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

I said this many times before and I'll say it again - you have absolutely no clue if trading up was possible.

 

First of all it was no "small" trade up. There was no way to do it without our 2nd round pick and we had no 3rd.

 

But even if Beane was willing to give up 2nd (I would be for Thomas), you have no idea if there was a trade partner. Let's say 2nd round gets us to 18, which is not even certain. Bengals almost never trade. Rams took Verse, they wanted DL and he was falling. Steelers needed OT and we don't know if they would go as low as 28. Dolphins trading with us is highly unlikely and I assume Eagles were ecstatic to get Mitchell. So how exactly was this "small" trade up possible?

 

If you thought at the time of draft that either Worthy or McConkey should've been the pick, then fine. But Thomas (not to mention top 3, which were absolutely out of reach) was most likely than not just impossible to pull off.

When I say “small trade up” I was talking about using the 2nd. Based on the value, you could have gotten into that range if they had a partner. Maybe they didn’t have a partner? Maybe they weren’t willing to pay the price? There’s almost always a trade to be had if you’re willing to pay the price. I was off the belief last year, that they should have done whatever was necessary to get one of the top 3 WRs. I didn’t care about the cost. The Bills don’t need more guys. They needed a number 1 WR and felt like that was the only way to do it. Thomas would have been behind those 3 for me but an option. I’m sure that they tried to go up but you’re right, there probably wasn’t a deal to be had. I wouldn’t have overspent for Thomas at the time. I would have for any of the top 3. 

[buffblue]

7 hours ago, Low Positive said:

That's some autocorrect gold. Taint it?

Yeah he really grundled the ball with that post

[BobbyC81]

18 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

I believe he has a serious medical condition with stingers.

He’s allergic to bee stings?

[Sierra Foothills]

10 hours ago, Billl said:

You get a WHAT?

 

10 hours ago, Low Positive said:

That's some autocorrect gold. Taint it?

 

Autocorrect doesn't makeup non-existent words.

 

[BarleyNY]

19 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

Autocorrect doesn't makeup non-existent words.

 

It’s a word 

[Sierra Foothills]

8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

It’s a word 

 

The word is perineum.

 

[Sierra Foothills]

14 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

It’s a word 

 

6 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

The word is perineum.

 

I poked around a bit. It's an adjective so yes, it's a word.

 

That said I can't find a direct dictionary entry for it... it's derivative of the noun perineum.

 

I stand corrected.

 

[Whites Bay]

5 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

The word is perineum.

 

Everyone look up "episiotomy".  Some of our mommies had to go through that in order for us to be here.

[Sierra Foothills]

3 minutes ago, Whites Bay said:

Everyone look up "episiotomy".  Some of our mommies had to go through that in order for us to be here.

 

Yes... easy queasy.

 

[boyst]

Disirregardless, a simple autocorrect sure confused plenty of folks. 

Maybe this is as bad as someone mistaking a hibernaculum and a gubernaculum.

[BillsVet]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

When I say “small trade up” I was talking about using the 2nd. Based on the value, you could have gotten into that range if they had a partner. Maybe they didn’t have a partner? Maybe they weren’t willing to pay the price? There’s almost always a trade to be had if you’re willing to pay the price. I was off the belief last year, that they should have done whatever was necessary to get one of the top 3 WRs. I didn’t care about the cost. The Bills don’t need more guys. They needed a number 1 WR and felt like that was the only way to do it. Thomas would have been behind those 3 for me but an option. I’m sure that they tried to go up but you’re right, there probably wasn’t a deal to be had. I wouldn’t have overspent for Thomas at the time. I would have for any of the top 3. 

 

Beane stopped being bold a couple seasons ago building out the roster.  I attribute this to the normal course many organizations follow which sees them be bold initially to right a ship and then settling into a predictable pattern of safe decision-making.  Outside of Von Miller in 2022, that's what they've been for the past 5 seasons.  Still, the bold statements are there, but now there's little to back them up.  Especially when your drafts in RD1-3 since 2022 have been so run of the mill.  

 

Years ago I recall seeing the sequence of 3 straight 7-9 seasons and knowing something had to give...which happened in 2009-10.  Sure, they're a perennial playoff team, but scraping out a win in the divisional round or losing there is not something you can keep doing.  You either get better or fall off and based on their answers to problems like a more robust passing game and pass rush help...I think there's a change coming if they remain so set in their ways. 

[transient]

3 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

I poked around a bit.

 

No shame in that... 

[CoudyBills]

3 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

I poked around a bit. It's an adjective so yes, it's a word.

 

That said I can't find a direct dictionary entry for it... it's derivative of the noun perineum.

 

I stand corrected.

 

Sometimes you need a light to guide the way.

[transient]

14 hours ago, Billl said:

You get a WHAT?

 

14 hours ago, Low Positive said:

That's some autocorrect gold. Taint it?

 

6 hours ago, buffblue said:

Yeah he really grundled the ball with that post

You’re all a baunch of knuckleheads. 

[3rdand12]

22 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Right now, if I had to guess, it'll be a competition between a Round 1 or Round 2 Rookie, Dane Jackson, and Ja'Marcus Ingram. We were never going to address every position of need we had with a difference maker in FA with our cap situation. Jackson sets the floor and hopefully we Draft a Rookie who's ready right out of the gate.

 

I'd like to see us bring in Chidobe Awuzie if we could get him on a decent deal so there's more than just Jackson and Ingram as the options if they want to bring the Rookie along slowly. Other options like Gilmore or Samuel Jr. seem unlikely to me as guys McDermott and Beane would be interested in. Though I wouldn't be opposed if they gave one of them a shot.

I do not see the  Perennial starter on the Team yet , but perhaps McBeanes does in Ingram or Jackson. Hope Bills have some reasonable options up their sleeves ! is Benford signed yet ? He has some risk with head injuries i read .

As much as the D line needs two delineated starters this CB  situation poses a problem. Perhaps and penultimate and pernicious paradigm

sorry had to

Becoming less concerned about getting that bona fide Boundary receiver , and more of securing and upgrading the Defense asap

Edited Sunday at 08:30 PM by 3rdand12

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, BillsVet said:

Years ago I recall seeing the sequence of 3 straight 7-9 seasons and knowing something had to give...which happened in 2009-10.  Sure, they're a perennial playoff team, but scraping out a win in the divisional round or losing there is not something you can keep doing.  You either get better or fall off and based on their answers to problems like a more robust passing game and pass rush help...I think there's a change coming if they remain so set in their ways. 

We just lost the AFC Championship game by three points against a healthier Chiefs team.  You make it seemed like we're doomed to never make the Super Bowl if Beane doesn't make some drastic change in philosophy.

[TheWeatherMan]

22 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

We just lost the AFC Championship game by three points against a healthier Chiefs team.  You make it seemed like we're doomed to never make the Super Bowl if Beane doesn't make some drastic change in philosophy.

If I had a nickel every time someone said this, I’d have 15 cents.  

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

We just lost the AFC Championship game by three points against a healthier Chiefs team.  You make it seemed like we're doomed to never make the Super Bowl if Beane doesn't make some drastic change in philosophy.

 

No offense to you, but i'm really tired of hearing this argument.

 

If not for multiple self induced mistakes by the Ravens and completely relying on James Cook, we wouldn't have made it to the Chiefs. You say that we were 3 points away from the Super Bowl. I say that we didn't have enough offensive firepower to beat them. If not for James Cook playing like a psychopath in the 2nd half and Mack Hollins (who isn't here anymore) playing the best game of his life - we wouldn't have even been in the position to have Dalton Kincaid fail us when the game was on the line.

 

And if we had pulled it off? We would have been DECIMATED by the Eagles, just like the healthier Chiefs who had a better built roster than we did. We had no business doing what we did last season with the roster we had. It's the #1 reason why Josh Allen won the MVP. It wasn't because he was so clearly better than Lamar. It's because he did what he did with a roster that was perceived as severely lacking compared to the kind of help Lamar had. The Eagles supremely built roster playing their best ball would have been no match for us. And we shouldn't rely on Josh Allen to play at that kind of MVP level to overcome the inadequacies of our roster every year. And as we've seen multiple times, even with that kind of superhero play from your QB, that only gets you to knocking on the door of a Super Bowl appearance. If you want to get in and win, you need to get him help. On both sides of the ball.

 

We needed to greatly improve this roster to not only overcome the Chiefs, but to be able to stand toe to toe with the Eagles. Because the goal isn't overcoming the Chiefs. The goal is to hoist a Lombardi. And as things stand, we still have a ways to go to get back to even the kind of roster we had last season. Outside of Joey Bosa (who's a risky pickup given his injury history) replacing Von Miller and Joshua Palmer (who's a 570 yard average WR to date) replacing Mack Hollins - we have nothing to show in terms of improvement for Week 1. And we have spots like DT and CB that have even taken a step back, or more. Even WR, we're maybe *slightly* better than we were when we had to make a move midseason for Cooper (who's spot we also have yet to replace) bc it wasn't enough.

Edited Sunday at 09:57 PM by BillsFanForever19