Free Agency Rumor Thread

[Pete]

5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

For context, he had 6 drops last year for a rate of 8%, those 6 drops actually game in 3 games. 4 drops for 4.4% the year prior.
 

He did have 2 in the playoffs for a rate of 22%. 1 drop the previous post season. 

Its not just the drops and the poor catch percentage.  Dalton looks so awkward often, trying to position himself to catch a throw.  It seems he makes it harder then it should be.  How often is Dalton flailing on the ground, attempting to catch a ball?

[RichRiderBills]

2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

For context, he had 6 drops last year for a rate of 8%, those 6 drops actually game in 3 games. 4 drops for 4.4% the year prior.
 

He did have 2 in the playoffs for a rate of 22%. 1 drop the previous post season. 

 

His success % was very low this year. 

 

75 targets 44 catches....there's hidden drops in there. Terrible.

Edited Saturday at 03:50 PM by RichRiderBills

[BarleyNY]

On 3/21/2025 at 1:19 AM, JerseyBills said:

Bosa... 

Could Cincy realistically pay him at this point? Idk with all the $ in QB WR1 WR2

Absolutely yes. Cincy isn’t spending a lot anywhere else except for Orlando Brown Jr. They structured the Burrow, Chase and Higgins deals with substantial salaries this season. So if you check OTC or Spotrac it looks like they don’t have any room, but there’s plenty to be made. It’s just a question of whether or not they want to spend more to keep him around. 

On 3/21/2025 at 8:26 AM, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Anybody have the "in" on who some potential post June 1st cuts might be? 

6/2 will be a non-event again. With 2 post 6/1 designations available to every team none of them wait to cut any player anymore. No sense risking them getting injured or paying them off season bonuses. If a name player gets cut around that time it’ll be because of performance - and you probably don’t want to add a player like that. 

[QLBillsFan]

Kincaid played through an injury the entire year post Colts game because 17 made a bad pass. Do he and Coleman need to step up? Absolutely 👍.. way too early for bust labels. Let’s see what this year brings and then let’s revisit this thread. 

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Kincaid played through an injury the entire year post Colts game because 17 made a bad pass. Do he and Coleman need to step up? Absolutely 👍.. way too early for bust labels. Let’s see what this year brings and then let’s revisit this thread. 

There’s a wide range between bust and overdrafted. It’s too early to call either a bust. I think Kincaid is less likely to bust but also less likely to take a huge leap because of age. Kincaid will be a quality starting TE. That’s not what I want if I’m trading up in the first. I want an all-pro. He could become that but he’s not close now. Coleman looks like a part time WR. He looks like he could become early Gabe. That’s a fine role. That’s not what I wanted when the team needed a number 1 and guys drafted around him are that. No one is writing either off but they are absolutely not where you’d hoped that they would be. 

[QLBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There’s a wide range between bust and overdrafted. It’s too early to call either a bust. I think Kincaid is less likely to bust but also less likely to take a huge leap because of age. Kincaid will be a quality starting TE. That’s not what I want if I’m trading up in the first. I want an all-pro. He could become that but he’s not close now. Coleman looks like a part time WR. He looks like he could become early Gabe. That’s a fine role. That’s not what I wanted when the team needed a number 1 and guys drafted around him are that. No one is writing either off but they are absolutely not where you’d hoped that they would be. 

Not significantly different than what I’m saying. We all want more from both of them and based on draft position that’s reasonable. But comparing to no brainer all pros WR’s drafted in the top 10 it’s not reasonable. Any of those players if the Bills had a shot at them would have better choices.. 

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Not significantly different than what I’m saying. We all want more from both of them and based on draft position that’s reasonable. But comparing to no brainer all pros WR’s drafted in the top 10 it’s not reasonable. Any of those players if the Bills had a shot at them would have better choices.. 

I totally agree. I liked the Kincaid pick at the time but not the Coleman pick. For me, I don’t really take much issue with either player. They seem to work hard and both tried to tough it out through injuries. If anything, my “issue” is with the front office continually missing in that part of the draft. The last 3 years produced Elam, Kincaid and Coleman at the top. That’s just not good enough. In those same 3 drafts KC landed McDuffie, Worthy and Karlaftis in the first (plus Rice in the 2nd). The Bills have done great on day 3. They just need to get better at the top of the draft to find more impact players. 

[FireChans]

Can someone explain to me why Asante Samuel is still an FA?

[TheBeaneBandit]

18 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Can someone explain to me why Asante Samuel is still an FA?

I believe he has a serious medical condition with stingers.

[Billl]

56 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Kincaid played through an injury the entire year post Colts game because 17 made a bad pass. Do he and Coleman need to step up? Absolutely 👍.. way too early for bust labels. Let’s see what this year brings and then let’s revisit this thread. 

Before the injury, he had 34 catches for 350 yards and 2 TDs in 10 games.  He was the same guy after he returned as he was before with 16 catches for 163 yards in 6 games.

[BillsFanForever19]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Can someone explain to me why Asante Samuel is still an FA?

 

Probably a number of factors. He only played 4 games last season. Since then it's come out that he has a medical issue that he says he's had most of his life. Compounding that is his diminitive stature and play style. He's only 5'10". And he's sort of a Deion Sanders type player that is very good in coverage, but a poor tackler who some believe avoids contact (which may now be explained by the health issue). That may not be an issue for everyone, but I could see it being an issue for coaches like McDermott.

 

On top of all of that, the CB market has exploded. And while I haven't heard he and his agent have put a large number on him, i'd bet he has because even with the concerns - he's generally a pretty solid starting CB. I'd imagine with some of the concerns around him, teams are wanting him for less than his asking price and so it's just a waiting game.

Edited Saturday at 09:59 PM by BillsFanForever19

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[BillsFanForever19]

5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

 

Not surprising. I'm sure Beane made inquiries on most of the difference making CB's. But it's obvious he wasn't willing to pay the exploding market money on any of them. Probably because he plans on paying Benford at some point and that there was a lot he wanted to do with the Defensive Line and also getting the WR he wanted.

[3rdand12]

9 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

well then,  darnit all !

 Buddy sleepin agin

4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Not surprising. I'm sure Beane made inquiries on most of the difference making CB's. But it's obvious he wasn't willing to pay the exploding market money on any of them. Probably because he plans on paying Benford at some point and that there was a lot he wanted to do with the Defensive Line and also getting the WR he wanted.

So who is starting across from Benford , I mean really   

[BillsFanForever19]

14 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

So who is starting across from Benford , I mean really   

 

Right now, if I had to guess, it'll be a competition between a Round 1 or Round 2 Rookie, Dane Jackson, and Ja'Marcus Ingram. We were never going to address every position of need we had with a difference maker in FA with our cap situation. Jackson sets the floor and hopefully we Draft a Rookie who's ready right out of the gate.

 

I'd like to see us bring in Chidobe Awuzie if we could get him on a decent deal so there's more than just Jackson and Ingram as the options if they want to bring the Rookie along slowly. Other options like Gilmore or Samuel Jr. seem unlikely to me as guys McDermott and Beane would be interested in. Though I wouldn't be opposed if they gave one of them a shot.

Edited Saturday at 10:16 PM by BillsFanForever19

[No_Matter_What]

10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Coleman caught 10 of the 29 balls thrown his way when he returned! Why the excuses? Why can’t we just say, “that’s atrocious?” As of today, he looks like the 7th-10th best 2nd year WR. That’s where he was drafted so it’s to be expected. The question becomes, “with a massive need at WR, how did you not move up or draft someone better?” You could have made a small trade up for Thomas, stood pat and taken Worthy or taken the trade that you made and picked McConkey.

 

 

I said this many times before and I'll say it again - you have absolutely no clue if trading up was possible.

 

First of all it was no "small" trade up. There was no way to do it without our 2nd round pick and we had no 3rd.

 

But even if Beane was willing to give up 2nd (I would be for Thomas), you have no idea if there was a trade partner. Let's say 2nd round gets us to 18, which is not even certain. Bengals almost never trade. Rams took Verse, they wanted DL and he was falling. Steelers needed OT and we don't know if they would go as low as 28. Dolphins trading with us is highly unlikely and I assume Eagles were ecstatic to get Mitchell. So how exactly was this "small" trade up possible?

 

If you thought at the time of draft that either Worthy or McConkey should've been the pick, then fine. But Thomas (not to mention top 3, which were absolutely out of reach) was most likely than not just impossible to pull off.

Edited Saturday at 10:43 PM by No_Matter_What

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Great leaders means Pitt offered more money. 

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Blah, Blah, Blah Gonna get smoked

[boyst]

6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I totally agree. I liked the Kincaid pick at the time but not the Coleman pick. For me, I don’t really take much issue with either player. They seem to work hard and both tried to tough it out through injuries. If anything, my “issue” is with the front office continually missing in that part of the draft. The last 3 years produced Elam, Kincaid and Coleman at the top. That’s just not good enough. In those same 3 drafts KC landed McDuffie, Worthy and Karlaftis in the first (plus Rice in the 2nd). The Bills have done great on day 3. They just need to get better at the top of the draft to find more impact players. 

Echoing of this. It's great to hit on day three when they maximize their return for a day 3 pick and can start. That's a great thing, the ceiling being that high. But when you get the same maximized ceiling on a day 1 pick you get an all-pro to a perineal all pro. That's why you need to hit on day 1 and maximize them like you do the later rounds.

[NoSaint]

7 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I totally agree. I liked the Kincaid pick at the time but not the Coleman pick. For me, I don’t really take much issue with either player. They seem to work hard and both tried to tough it out through injuries. If anything, my “issue” is with the front office continually missing in that part of the draft. The last 3 years produced Elam, Kincaid and Coleman at the top. That’s just not good enough. In those same 3 drafts KC landed McDuffie, Worthy and Karlaftis in the first (plus Rice in the 2nd). The Bills have done great on day 3. They just need to get better at the top of the draft to find more impact players. 

it’s been very need based drafting. 

 

And in the late 20s it’s hard to snag a specific positional need, that’s a system fit, and has top 30 talent 

 

the draft comes, we of course are amped with a first rounder that matches a hole… but was that guy the top ranked on our board because he was the elite talent left or our favorite hole filler? im not sure how much is revisionist because they didn’t work vs being realistic about why I was good with them at the time