Free Agency Rumor Thread

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m not sure that the bold strengthens the case against Rice/Worthy. It further adds to the point that those guys put up numbers despite having those guys not scaring anyone. Kincaid and Coleman not getting a lot of targets is as much a function of their ability to get open as it is the scheme. It’s an indictment on both of them. Coleman caught 10 of his last 29 targets!! That’s insanely bad. Rice and Worthy get the ball because they get open. 

I agree it's bad but also know Coleman was coming back from a wrist injury which makes catching the ball far more difficult. 

[Brand J]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Beane would never trade up a few spots for someone like Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison.  Loves his 4th round picks too much.

He sacrificed a 4th round pick to move up for Knox, sacrificed a 4th for Elam, and a 4th for Kincaid. Think he sacrificed a 4th for Cody Ford too, either that or a 5th. Tried to sacrifice a 3rd for Bishop last year too but teams weren’t taking his call. My complaint has been that Beane trades up too much. Of course I wouldn’t be saying that if he had hit on at least one other blue chip player. As such, I’d rather sit pat or trade down and accumulate more ammo. 

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, Brand J said:

He sacrificed a 4th round pick to move up for Knox, sacrificed a 4th for Elam, and a 4th for Kincaid. Think he sacrificed a 4th for Cody Ford too, either that or a 5th. Tried to sacrifice a 3rd for Bishop last year too but teams weren’t taking his call. My complaint has been that Beane trades up too much. Of course I wouldn’t be saying that if he had hit on at least one other blue chip player. As such, I’d rather sit pat or trade down and accumulate more ammo. 

I was being sarcastic.

[Kirby Jackson]

10 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I agree it's bad but also know Coleman was coming back from a wrist injury which makes catching the ball far more difficult. 

If he had 1 leg, catching 10 of 29 would be awful. He was coming back from a wrist injury. That shouldn’t have impacted his ability to get open at all. His lack of separation will cap his ceiling as a role player. You can’t get 7 or 8 targets a game if you’re covered all 7 or 8 times you’re thrown to. It’s just not efficient. Keon is going to have to become a player that he wasn’t last year or in college. He MUST become a different player or he’s James Hardy. He’s a guy that you’ll throw some jump balls to and hope that he wins in the air down the field. He will see 4 balls a game and be a 40-50 catch guy. 

Edited March 18 by Kirby Jackson

[3rdand12]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

If he had 1 leg, catching 10 of 29 would be awful. He was coming back from a wrist injury. That shouldn’t have impacted his ability to get open at all. His lack of separation will cap his ceiling as a role player. You can’t get 7 or 8 targets a game if you’re covered all 7 or 8 times you’re thrown to. It’s just not efficient. Keon is going to have to become a player that he wasn’t last year or in college. He MUST become a different player or he’s James Hardy. He’s a guy that you’ll throw some jump balls to and hope that he wins in the air down the field. He will see 4 balls a game and be a 40-50 catch guy. 

Great. Just great.

Not the same but the same feel as Gabe Davis.

Made some fine catches on the boundary, toe taps etc.

 But the drops and lack of separation became his calling card and more risk than reward.

Brady needs to figure this Kid out and quick if he cant get to the spot on time and in stride, or catch the comeback.

Kirby I just can't give up on him yet though 😇.

he and E Moulds and Shakir need to spend quality time together

[Augie]

Is this where we repeat them or start them? 

 

Almost the same thing. 🤷‍♂️

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Great. Just great.

Not the same but the same feel as Gabe Davis.

Made some fine catches on the boundary, toe taps etc.

 But the drops and lack of separation became his calling card and more risk than reward.

Brady needs to figure this Kid out and quick if he cant get to the spot on time and in stride, or catch the comeback.

Kirby I just can't give up on him yet though 😇.

he and E Moulds and Shakir need to spend quality time together

They really need him to be good. They are counting on it. He has some skills but the concerns coming out were on display last year. I don’t think he reaches Gabe’s level but he could be “early Gabe.” He can be a change of pace guy that makes some plays down the field. He’s also physical and a good blocker. He can help in the running game. I just don’t see him ever becoming a consistent producer as a WR because of his lack of separation. Throwing to covered guys isn’t efficient.

 

To bring this back on topic, a WR is on the table in the first 2 rounds. It has to be. DT/CB/WR/Edge and MAYBE safety if an elite player is there.

Edited March 18 by Kirby Jackson

[3rdand12]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They really need him to be good. They  are counting on it. He has some skills but the concerns coming out were on display last year. I don’t think he reaches Gabe’s level but he could be “early Gabe.” He can be a change of pace guy that makes some plays down the field. He’s also physical and a good blocker. He can help in the running game. I just don’t see him ever becoming a consistent producer as a WR because of his lack of separation. Throwing to covered guys isn’t efficient.

Agreed he still looks like what he was defined as , in College. perhaps he really needs to focus this off season on contested balls and focusing. Strength training to rip balls and turn.

 There has to be something he can truly develop beyond blocking. Some latent skill set they loved ?

 

Edited March 18 by 3rdand12

[Warriorspikes51]

Come on Beane

Edited March 18 by Warriorspikes51

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Now @Alphadawg7 and @HappyDays are a lot of things, but they aren't liars I think

 

Ha, well thanks...I guess...lol.  

 

I also don't like to share too much of what I get wind of because if I shared all the stuff I hear it would probably make it less credible when I do share stuff I find more relevant and of more certainty.  

[MasterStrategist]

55 minutes ago, Brand J said:

He sacrificed a 4th round pick to move up for Knox, sacrificed a 4th for Elam, and a 4th for Kincaid. Think he sacrificed a 4th for Cody Ford too, either that or a 5th. Tried to sacrifice a 3rd for Bishop last year too but teams weren’t taking his call. My complaint has been that Beane trades up too much. Of course I wouldn’t be saying that if he had hit on at least one other blue chip player. As such, I’d rather sit pat or trade down and accumulate more ammo. 

Beane did orchestrate the best "trades" in franchise history, to get Josh Allen...Id call that blue chip.

 

Kidding aside, I get your point.  He hasn't had much luck moving up at points of draft.  

 

He did exactly as you said this past draft, moved back / collected a 3rd and drafted Keon.

 

I think we were all in on Addison.  Unfortunately, sometimes trades don't work out and you need a partner to tango.

[Dr. Who]

21 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Come on Beane

I don't really trust him to figure it out, unfortunately.

[Simon]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He was coming back from a wrist injury. That shouldn’t have impacted his ability to get open at all.

 

This just isn't true.

I have no idea of the actual extent of his injury, but if he couldn't handfight or push off, it absolutely would have affected his ability to get open.

[Kirby Jackson]

8 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

This just isn't true.

I have no idea of the actual extent of his injury, but if he couldn't handfight or push off, it absolutely would have affected his ability to get open.

He didn’t get open before the injury either.  I mean, if you want to believe that the wrist was the reason that he couldn’t get open, go for it. He’s never beaten man coverage with hand fighting. That wasn’t what held him back after the injury. 
 

 

[Low Positive]

For everyone who still doesn't believe that Cooper Kupp "went home," here is his into press conference in a Pearl Jam t-shirt and a flannel. Can't get more Seattle than that.

 

[NeverOutNick]

Let’s get us some WR Rondale Moore. That would make up for some of the head scratching decisions this offseason 

[Simon]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I mean, if you want to believe that the wrist was the reason that he couldn’t get open, go for it.

 

That isn't what I said, is it?

[sunshynman]

3 hours ago, Brand J said:

He sacrificed a 4th round pick to move up for Knox, sacrificed a 4th for Elam, and a 4th for Kincaid. Think he sacrificed a 4th for Cody Ford too, either that or a 5th. Tried to sacrifice a 3rd for Bishop last year too but teams weren’t taking his call. My complaint has been that Beane trades up too much. Of course I wouldn’t be saying that if he had hit on at least one other blue chip player. As such, I’d rather sit pat or trade down and accumulate more ammo. 

Yeah but we have a butt load of picks this year already. It will be tough for more than 5 rookies to make this team. 

Edited March 19 by sunshynman
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[sunshynman]

28 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Let’s get us some WR Rondale Moore. That would make up for some of the head scratching decisions this offseason 

Not sure that’s wouldn’t be a head scratcher as well. Four years of eh numbers. 

[MikePJ76]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

For everyone who still doesn't believe that Cooper Kupp "went home," here is his into press conference in a Pearl Jam t-shirt and a flannel. Can't get more Seattle than that.

 

A man of impeccable taste.

 

should have signed him for double what they gave him.