Low Positive Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: guy has become a franchise destroyer We need to get him on the Dolphins some how. He has work to do in South Florida. 1 3 Quote
Gregg Posted March 14 Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: guy has become a franchise destroyer Giants are meeting Russell Wilson today. He isn't what he used to be, but he can still be the starter until they find their future QB in the draft. He is certainly better than Tommy "Cutlets" Devito. If I am the Giants, I don't let him leave the building without a contract. 2 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted March 14 Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, Gregg said: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/report-york-giants-growing-frustrated-111417830.html With the cloud that has been hanging over East Rutherford for the past decade, what better place to continue the darkness retreat? 3 Quote
Simon Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: Giants are meeting Russell Wilson today. He isn't what he used to be, but he can still be the starter until they find their future QB in the draft. He might be fine for a team in transition like the Giants who aren't ready to win right now. But any team that has playoff aspirations would be wise to stay away from Russell; he single-handedly wrecked the Steelers over the last month of the season. 3 2 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, Gregg said: Giants are meeting Russell Wilson today. He isn't what he used to be, but he can still be the starter until they find their future QB in the draft. He is certainly better than Tommy "Cutlets" Devito. If I am the Giants, I don't let him leave the building without a contract. They can't even tank for Manning because their defense should be pretty good. They just need a game manager for a year. 2 Quote
BearNorth Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) Does signing Shenault mean he will compete to take Hollins spot as a "BIG" WR and also does it mean we draft another CB so we don't ever have to play Codrington in a meaningful defensive snap? Edited March 14 by BearNorth Quote
Gregg Posted March 14 Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, Simon said: He might be fine for a team in transition like the Giants who aren't ready to win right now. But any team that has playoff aspirations would be wise to stay away from Russell; he single-handedly wrecked the Steelers over the last month of the season. Both the Eagles and Commanders are much better than the Giants. Even the Cowboys are better. The Giants are looking at a rebuild so I don't see the playoffs as a possibility. Wilson is fine until the Giants get their future QB in the draft. 2 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14 Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Does signing Shenault mean he will compete to take Hollins spot as a "BIG" WR and also does it mean we draft another CB so we don't ever have to play Codrington in a meaningful defensive snap? I think that makes sense. I think overall he is competing with Codrington. As much as they liked him last year, there is a new special teams coach in town in Chris Tabor and Shenault was his return guy in Carolina. So just with his pedigree, I think he has an inside shot at that return spot. He is a very different receiver than Hollins...I feel like he is a thick version of Samuel. He is mostly a gadget player who can run some deep-ins and things. He is a screen and YAC guy and has been an explosive return guy in the past. I think the closest thing we have to Hollins is Shavers, but if he is taking a ton of offensive reps like Hollins did, something has gone very wrong IMO. But he's a nice guy to have around with his size and speed combo and his acumen on special teams. 2 1 Quote
Bigvinny Posted March 14 Posted March 14 15 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Does signing Shenault mean he will compete to take Hollins spot as a "BIG" WR and also does it mean we draft another CB so we don't ever have to play Codrington in a meaningful defensive snap? https://x.com/SalSports/status/1900382787464814787 5 Quote
billsfanfrom83 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Gregg said: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/report-york-giants-growing-frustrated-111417830.html He will wait to the last minute and retire for a final f u to everybody 1 Quote
RochesterLifer Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 33 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think that makes sense. I think overall he is competing with Codrington. As much as they liked him last year, there is a new special teams coach in town in Chris Tabor and Shenault was his return guy in Carolina. So just with his pedigree, I think he has an inside shot at that return spot. He is a very different receiver than Hollins...I feel like he is a thick version of Samuel. He is mostly a gadget player who can run some deep-ins and things. He is a screen and YAC guy and has been an explosive return guy in the past. I think the closest thing we have to Hollins is Shavers, but if he is taking a ton of offensive reps like Hollins did, something has gone very wrong IMO. But he's a nice guy to have around with his size and speed combo and his acumen on special teams. Do you think Shavers can develop into someone who deserves to be on the field, or do you think he just is what he his? Edited March 14 by RochesterLifer Quote
Riverboat Ritchie Posted March 14 Posted March 14 44 minutes ago, Gregg said: Both the Eagles and Commanders are much better than the Giants. Even the Cowboys are better. The Giants are looking at a rebuild so I don't see the playoffs as a possibility. Wilson is fine until the Giants get their future QB in the draft. When we win the SuperBowl next year and Brady gets poached for a HC gig, any chance we bring Daboll back as OC. Definitely a strange relationship with McD but I think Josh still loves him. I don’t see much chance of him surviving after this year absent a Jayden Daniels type rookie performance from their #1 pick 1 2 Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: When we win the SuperBowl next year and Brady gets poached for a HC gig, any chance we bring Daboll back as OC. Definitely a strange relationship with McD but I think Josh still loves him. I don’t see much chance of him surviving after this year absent a Jayden Daniels type rookie performance from their #1 pick No and hell no and no thanks to boot! 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 54 minutes ago, Gregg said: Both the Eagles and Commanders are much better than the Giants. Even the Cowboys are better. The Giants are looking at a rebuild so I don't see the playoffs as a possibility. Wilson is fine until the Giants get their future QB in the draft. IF NY can get decent qb play I think they will be better than Dallas. They actually have a lot of talent. The cowboys besides lamb, parsons and tyler smith have a pretty average to below average roster. IF the giants were to end up with cam ward I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish above Dallas. 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If we sign no one else of note, we absolutely can't go Defensive End at 30. With the additions of Bosa and Hoecht to replace Miller and Smoot - we've filled the holes at Defensive End and upgraded from them. But we have a glaring hole at starting boundary CB (and need another boundary CB to replace Elam), need 2-3 more DT's (unclear whether Ogunjobi is viewed as a 1T or a 3T here, but I feel Jones needs to be replaced and regardless we had 3 going out and 1 coming in), and a hole at Outside WR (Cooper and Hollins going out with only Palmer coming in). As things stand right now, we've adequately filled DE and S in Free Agency. But CB, DT, and WR are 3 positions that definitely need help. I know you should go BPA, but you can't Draft a 4th starting quality DE when you need that much help elsewhere. Someone at one of those 3 positions of need would meet value at 30. When it comes to the draft, I never think in terms of "absolutely." That said, I agree that other positions need more help than defensive end. Moreover, the odds are decent that players at positions other than DE, who are still available at #30 will have higher value than defensive end. The speed guys at DE, (Carter, Pearce, Green, and Ezeiruaku) may all be gone. Carter, of course, is top 5. I would pick Kenneth Grant in a heart beat, though the odds of him being on the board aren't very good. I'm not as excited about Harmon or Nolen as I think they are kind of like what Buffalo already has, more suited to 3 tech. I like Matthew Golden at WR and there are several CBs who could be available depending on which ones are the best values in Brandon Beane's eyes. Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Gregg said: Giants are meeting Russell Wilson today. He isn't what he used to be, but he can still be the starter until they find their future QB in the draft. He is certainly better than Tommy "Cutlets" Devito. If I am the Giants, I don't let him leave the building without a contract. I am not big on purposely tanking, but it often makes sense to do so. The Giants are not really playoff contenders even with Russell Wilson, so why sign him? All that will do is likely gain them a few wins next season and leave them out of reach for a QB in the draft again next year. Quote
Mat68 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, BearNorth said: Does signing Shenault mean he will compete to take Hollins spot as a "BIG" WR and also does it mean we draft another CB so we don't ever have to play Codrington in a meaningful defensive snap? No. Hollins big wr role will be Coleman or Kincaid. Palmer will take most of the traditional X reps. Shenault will battle for KR. In the offense he would be a larger body move/gadet player. Some of the stuff they did with Mckenzie and last year Samuel. If he is willing to cover kicks he could be a game-day player. Just now, OldTimer1960 said: I am not big on purposely tanking, but it often makes sense to do so. The Giants are not really playoff contenders even with Russell Wilson, so why sign him? All that will do is likely gain them a few wins next season and leave them out of reach for a QB in the draft again next year. They are a mess. They wouldn't even be able to tank tight. Quote
B-Man Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I am not big on purposely tanking, but it often makes sense to do so. The Giants are not really playoff contenders even with Russell Wilson, so why sign him? All that will do is likely gain them a few wins next season and leave them out of reach for a QB in the draft again next year. Their GM and Coach would not survive their "tanking". . Quote
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