strive_for_five_guy Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: So basically two players in 9 years. I count five there that started a meaningful number of games as rookies on the defensive side of the ball. And that doesn’t include Edmunds. So just because you couldn’t remember any, didn’t mean that rookies never start for McD. 4 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: How many people here think Chicago’s GM did an awesome job getting that 5th for him? Detroit. Listen, nobody is happy with the Elam situation. I’m just happy that the Bills got something and took the hit. All GMs miss on draft picks. The good ones cut bait and at least get something. The great Howie Roseman got zero for Jalen Reagor, who he took one pick before Justin Jefferson. They all miss! 3 Quote
NoSaint Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/11/2025 at 7:50 PM, Kirby Jackson said: That’s part of the reason that I think the draft is more likely. You hope to find a guy that can play on a rookie deal. he keeps falling off my radar but jack bech seems like such a billsy pick. 1 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Detroit. Listen, nobody is happy with the Elam situation. I’m just happy that the Bills got something and took the hit. All GMs miss on draft picks. The good ones cut bait and at least get something. The great Howie Roseman got zero for Jalen Reagor, who he took one pick before Justin Jefferson. They all miss! You’re right about all of that. It’s just a lot to see people gushing about it when the Bills do it and laugh at other teams when they do it. I don’t mean to imply you did that. Just plenty of it on the board. Edited March 14 by BarleyNY Quote
Low Positive Posted March 14 Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: You’re right about all of that. It’s just a lot to see people gushing about it when the Bills do it and laugh at other teams when they do it. Missing on picks always sucks, but you can’t compound the problem by waiting too long. My main criticism of Beane is not trading him last spring. Quote
billsfan89 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: he said wouldn’t be surprised to see us add another pass rusher….. Calais Campbell? Dante Fowler Jr? Azeez Ojulari? Za’Darius Smith? Preston Smith? Charles Omenihu? Matthew Judon? Emmanuel Ogbah? I don't think a vet D-line player makes sense for the Bills. Looking at the D-line and it's already a crowded field. EDGE- Groot/Bosa/Hoecht/AJE/Solomon DT- Ed/Larry O/Daquon/Carter The Bills already have 9 D-line players very likely to make the roster and they only carried 11 last year (6 DT's 5 DE's). Also looking at the outlook of the group longer term they need a couple of youth and development players there. Bosa/Larry O/Daquon/AJE are all older players or on the last year of their contracts even Ed is going to be 29 net season. Bills can't clog up another spot with a rental. The only players on rookie deals are Carter and Solomon and while I think they are OK prospects neither are players who I would say are foundational prospects. Get me a big time run stuffing 1-Tech DT like Kenneth Grant or Tyliek Williams in round 1 to round out the DT core and then take an edge prospect in round 2 to secure the future of the position and add some depth. Basically you have to add some youth and prospects to the position at this point. Stock the back end with younger players esp with this being a strong D-line draft class. 8 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted March 14 Posted March 14 12 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Missing on picks always sucks, but you can’t compound the problem by waiting too long. My main criticism of Beane is not trading him last spring. Prior to the draft Elam was the player I least wanted the Bills to draft and said so in the thread for that. It was a terrible decision to go into the draft with such a glaring need and a terrible decision to draft him. But, yes, cutting your losses is always the smart move once you are in a bad situation. 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 32 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I don't think a vet D-line player makes sense for the Bills. Looking at the D-line and it's already a crowded field. EDGE- Groot/Bosa/Hoecht/AJE/Solomon DT- Ed/Larry O/Daquon/Carter The Bills already have 9 D-line players very likely to make the roster and they only carried 11 last year (6 DT's 5 DE's). Also looking at the outlook of the group longer term they need a couple of youth and development players there. Bosa/Larry O/Daquon/AJE are all older players or on the last year of their contracts even Ed is going to be 29 net season. Bills can't clog up another spot with a rental. The only players on rookie deals are Carter and Solomon and while I think they are OK prospects neither are players who I would say are foundational prospects. Get me a big time run stuffing 1-Tech DT like Kenneth Grant or Tyliek Williams in round 1 to round out the DT core and then take an edge prospect in round 2 to secure the future of the position and add some depth. Basically you have to add some youth and prospects to the position at this point. Stock the back end with younger players esp with this being a strong D-line draft class. I think the Bills will at least attempt to draft a DE that has speed and the ability to bend on the edge. They only have one such guy on the roster now, Javon Solomon. Everybody else (Bosa, Hoecht, Rousseau, Epenesa) depends more on strength to rush the passer. I think a quicker edge rusher would balance out the position for the Bills even if the guy is only 250 lbs or a bit less. That said, if Shemar Stewart inexplicably drops to the Bills, they should race to the stage with the pick at the draft. He doesn't have Abdul Carter or James Pearce speed, but you can't say "no" to a Myles Garrett like combination of traits even if he didn't produce quite what people hoped in college. 3 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: I think the Bills will at least attempt to draft a DE that has speed and the ability to bend on the edge. They only have one such guy on the roster now, Javon Solomon. Everybody else (Bosa, Hoecht, Rousseau, Epenesa) depends more on strength to rush the passer. I think a quicker edge rusher would balance out the position for the Bills even if the guy is only 250 lbs or a bit less. That said, if Shemar Stewart inexplicably drops to the Bills, they should race to the stage with the pick at the draft. He doesn't have Abdul Carter or James Pearce speed, but you can't say "no" to a Myles Garrett like combination of traits even if he didn't produce quite what people hoped in college. If we sign no one else of note, we absolutely can't go Defensive End at 30. With the additions of Bosa and Hoecht to replace Miller and Smoot - we've filled the holes at Defensive End and upgraded from them. But we have a glaring hole at starting boundary CB (and need another boundary CB to replace Elam), need 2-3 more DT's (unclear whether Ogunjobi is viewed as a 1T or a 3T here, but I feel Jones needs to be replaced and regardless we had 3 going out and 1 coming in), and a hole at Outside WR (Cooper and Hollins going out with only Palmer coming in). As things stand right now, we've adequately filled DE and S in Free Agency. But CB, DT, and WR are 3 positions that definitely need help. I know you should go BPA, but you can't Draft a 4th starting quality DE when you need that much help elsewhere. Someone at one of those 3 positions of need would meet value at 30. Edited March 14 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted March 14 Posted March 14 24 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If we sign no one else of note, we absolutely can't go Defensive End at 30. With the additions of Bosa and Hoecht to replace Miller and Smoot - we've filled the holes at Defensive End and upgraded from them. But we have a glaring hole at starting boundary CB (and need another boundary CB to replace Elam), need 2-3 more DT's (unclear whether Ogunjobi is viewed as a 1T or a 3T here, but I feel Jones needs to be replaced and regardless we had 3 going out and 1 coming in), and a hole at Outside WR (Cooper and Hollins going out with only Palmer coming in). As things stand right now, we've adequately filled DE and S in Free Agency. But CB, DT, and WR are 3 positions that definitely need help. I know you should go BPA, but you can't Draft a 4th starting quality DE when you need that much help elsewhere. Someone at one of those 3 positions of need would meet value at 30. Why not? If a DE falls unexpectedly then you take him if he's the best player on your board you take him. It would be nice to hit on a DE and have him play opposite Rousseau for the next five years. Cutting or trading Epenesa after June 1st saves us $6.2m in cap space ($3.3m if pre June 1st). Beane has a lot of picks to play with so moving up in the 2nd round to draft a CB or DT shouldn't be too hard. Same goes for outside WR. 1 3 Quote
davefan66 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 40 minutes ago, DJB said: That’s fine. Will have some production, but won’t matter the cowboys aren’t going to amount to much next year. 1 Quote
BlowLeafsBlow369 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 47 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: cool stay in the NFC Honestly thought he'd end up either on New England or KC with our luck. This is not bad news to see him possibly signing with Dallas. That said, I would've loved taking a run at him. Not sure he's exactly what we need at this stage but I'd never say know to adding good receivers into the mix. 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 hour ago, DJB said: Dallas was my prediction, so do I win a prize if he signs there? I only predicted that because it would be cool to have three generations of a single family all play for the same franchise. 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Is Rasul Douglas [Jersey Boy] going to wind up with the Jets now that DJ Reed has gone to the Lions? Quote
nucci Posted March 14 Posted March 14 44 minutes ago, BlowLeafsBlow369 said: Honestly thought he'd end up either on New England or KC with our luck. This is not bad news to see him possibly signing with Dallas. That said, I would've loved taking a run at him. Not sure he's exactly what we need at this stage but I'd never say know to adding good receivers into the mix. what do you mean, with our luck? Quote
Roundybout Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 hours ago, DJB said: Would have been an amazing couple of pickups about 5 years ago Quote
Gregg Posted March 14 Posted March 14 https://sports.yahoo.com/article/report-york-giants-growing-frustrated-111417830.html 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, Gregg said: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/report-york-giants-growing-frustrated-111417830.html guy has become a franchise destroyer 2 Quote
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