Free Agency Rumor Thread

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Kenneth Gainwell

there is a contract for Ty Johnson written. It's sitting on the desk. He can choose it or he can walk. Don't be surprised if he signs it.

[Jamie Mueller]

9 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Funny how the bad teams have more to spend…

Bad teams usually don't have $40M - $60M quarterbacks  There are a couple of exception though ...

37 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It will be interesting what today brings.  Wife's having surgery today ( I'm in the waiting room) so I'll be off and on today.

Good luck !

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, boyst said:

there is a contract for Ty Johnson written. It's sitting on the desk. He can choose it or he can walk. Don't be surprised if he signs it.

It would be funny if he went back to the Jets after his wife made that sign last year. There'd be a bit of 'splain to do. 

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

The knee injury last season (torn ACL and MCL IIRC) was the big issue. He’s not Jefferson or Chase, but he’s comfortably in the next tier. He’d far and away be the best WR on the Bills if he came here. I don’t think he will fetch much in trade due to coming off that injury and his contract. A team has to be willing to pay him though: 

2025: $25M (guarantees on 4/1/25)

2026: $27M (guarantees on 4/1/25)

2027: $28M (no guarantee)

2028: $30M (no guarantee)

I wonder if they want out bad enough to post June 1 cut him.  The cap hit to trade him isn’t as bad, but still fairly significant.  If he’s healthy, it’s not a bad contract compared to what people are going for thus far.  I say flip them a 4th and tell Palmer the deal is off 😂.

[gonzo1105]

Vikings spending that money. 
 

OG Will Fries 5 years 88 mill

 

Also Signed DT Javon Hargrove but don’t know terms yet 

[jahnyc]

Given the available cap space this year compared to last year, I expected the Bills to come out of free agency this year with at least a new starting CB opposite Benford, a new starting tree safety, depth at DT and/or DE and possibly an upgrade at WR.  It is still really early, but I am not sure there is a starting caliber CB or free safety free agent still available.

 

At this point, I hope we are not planning to bring back Douglas, Miller and/or Hamlin.  

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

Javonte Williams got 1 year at 3 million in Dallas with some incentives to 3.5.

 

if Ty Johnson would take that deal I would do that today and put rb to bed for the offseason.

 

 

Dallas is looking for a cheap RB to start is all. I think Jerry learned his lesson with Elliott to not over spend on RBs. 

[Low Positive]

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

Vikings spending that money. 
 

OG Will Fries 5 years 88 mill

 

Also Signed DT Javon Hargrove but don’t know terms yet 

No QB contract will allow for that. But then you have all these pieces but are relying on a high-floor low-ceiling rookie at the most important position in team sports. I'd rather have the QB.

1 minute ago, jahnyc said:

Given the available cap space this year compared to last year, I expected the Bills to come out of free agency this year with at least a new starting CB opposite Benford, a new starting tree safety, depth at DT and/or DE and possibly an upgrade at WR.  It is still really early, but I am not sure there is a starting caliber CB or free safety free agent still available.

 

At this point, I hope we are not planning to bring back Douglas, Miller and/or Hamlin.  

I think OBD is more comfortable with Bishop and Rapp at safety than TBD. It's just like when this place was absolutely convinced that we needed a MLB two years ago, but the front office and coaching staff knew what they had in Bernard. 

[MikePJ76]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Dallas is looking for a cheap RB to start is all. I think Jerry learned his lesson with Elliott to not over spend on RBs. 

Actually I think they looking to Williams to be a part of a rotation.  If Jeanty gets to them they will take him.

 

dallas has a pretty bad roster though so they could take anything at 12

[The Jokeman]

Just now, MikePJ76 said:

Actually I think they looking to Williams to be a part of a rotation.  If Jeanty gets to them they will take him.

 

dallas has a pretty bad roster though so they could take anything at 12

Fair enough Jeanty is an interesting prospect. I would think he be a top 10 pick but in todays NFL tough to say for sure. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Ok so day two debrief...sorry kind of long, but here is what is on my mind...note that some of these guys may have signed while I was typing this....

 

WR:

If we still want a speed guy, a lot of those guys are still on the market, but guys who could work: 

WR Rondale Moore - 4.32 (young with upside...he is short but he is thick, a little meatball of muscle...his highlights are fun)

WR Elijah Moore - 4:35 

WR Devin Duvernay - 4.39 (released so no comp pick impact)

 

I really think they are going to roll with Rapp and Bishop, but...

Safety: 

Justin Reid - good player - instant starter, probably too expensive

Justin Simmons - old but been a Mahomes killer

Julian Blackmon - They were in on him last year

Marcus Epps - Josh's teammate at Wyoming would be a solid depth add

Reyshawn Jenkins (he could be a sneaky add as he has connections to some of the staff here and he got released so no comp pick. versatile) to me Jenkins makes the most sense as a third guy...

 

DL

There are a bunch of D - line guys:

 

A logjam of older vets who can get you a few sacks: Bosa, Preston Smith, Z'darius Smith, Donte Fowler...

 

Other mid/interesting adds: 

John Cominsky - one guy the cover 1 dudes were talking about, he is like Hoect in that he is a small school dude who is versatile and can play all over the DL. 

Kentavius Street - another versatile guy who has ties to Ryan Nielsen

James Lynch - a former Baylor Dave Aranda guy who has versatility across the front

 

Young busts with maybe some upside: 

Payton Turner - bust, but young and has ties to Nielsen

Joe Tryon - another bust who is young and maybe interesting

Josh Uche - young bust with upside

K'Lavon Chaisson - young bust, maybe some upside

 

For 1 tech: 

Raekwon Davis - monster of a human who I liked at draft time who has not put it together. i'd take a shot. he was released so no comp pick

Greg Gaines - fire hydrant NT formerly of the Rams and Bucs

Leki Fotu - formerly of the Jets, another behemoth human

 

Corner: 

Asante Samuel Jr...sound like they are in on him. he is excellent in zone, smallish, but I don't hate it

Jonathan Jones - Former Pat whose coach is now here. Would be a stopgap guy, but can still ball and should be cheap

Eric Stokes - Young, very fast, has had issues staying healthy. By all accounts, he was going to be their pick in the 2021 draft. 

Jeff Okudah - overdrafted, but young and fast and still has upside

Benjamin St-Juste - Big long corner who has some experience in a similar system playing for Ron Rivera

Kristian Fulton- Another young with upside guy

 

RB: 

Hopefully we can bring back Ty, but I am assuming Ty is gone, we need a new third down back: 

Travis Homer - really good on third downs, similar size and speed to Ty, he blocks. Really good on special teams

Kenneth Gainwell - from the Eagles, versatile and does a lot of things well

Raheem Blackshear - former Bills UDFA, he was not tendered by the Panthers, but he was pretty good in a third down role. No comp pick impact

 

That what I got for the day!

Edited 19 hours ago by MrEpsYtown

[SoonerBillsFan]

9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Dallas is looking for a cheap RB to start is all. I think Jerry learned his lesson with Elliott to not over spend on RBs. 

I would still offer Cook and 30 for #12

[2003Contenders]

10 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I wonder if they want out bad enough to post June 1 cut him.  The cap hit to trade him isn’t as bad, but still fairly significant.  If he’s healthy, it’s not a bad contract compared to what people are going for thus far.  I say flip them a 4th and tell Palmer the deal is off 😂.

The issue for the 49ers, I believe, is that he has a large roster bonus coming up -- and if they designate him as a post-June 1 cut, I believe they are responsible for paying him that bonus (even if he is picked up by another team).

 

Personally, I would prefer a healthy Ayiuk over Metkalf -- and we just saw the large contract (plus trade compensation) the Steelers gave up for Metkalf. Of course, the operative word there is "healthy", and the injury that Ayiuk experienced last season was devastating.

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Ok so day two debrief...sorry kind of long, but here is what is on my mind...note that some of these guys may have signed while I was typing this....

 

WR:

If we still want a speed guy, a lot of those guys are still on the market, but guys who could work: 

WR Rondale Moore - 4.32 (young with upside...he is short but he is thick, a little meatball of muscle...his highlights are fun)

WR Elijah Moore - 4:35 

WR Devin Duvernay - 4.39

 

I really think they are going to roll with Rapp and Bishop, but...

Safety: 

Justin Reid - good player - instant starter, probably too expensive

Justin Simmons - old but been a Mahomes killer

Julian Blackmon - They were in on him last year

Marcus Epps - Josh's teammate at Wyoming would be a solid depth add

Reyshawn Jenkins (he could be a sneaky add as he has connections to some of the staff here and he got released so no comp pick. versatile) to me Jenkins makes the most sense as a third guy...

 

DL

There are a bunch of D - line guys:

 

A logjam of older vets who can get you a few sacks: Bosa, Preston Smith, Z'darius Smith, Donte Fowler...

 

Other mid/interesting adds: 

John Cominsky - one guy the cover 1 dudes were talking about, he is like Hoect in that he is a small school dude who is versatile and can play all over the DL. 

Kentavius Street - another versatile guy who has ties to Ryan Nielsen

James Lynch - a former Baylor Dave Aranda guy who has versatility across the front

 

Young busts with maybe some upside: 

Payton Turner - bust, but young and has ties to Nielsen

Joe Tryon - another bust who is young and maybe interesting

Josh Uche - young bust with upside

K'Lavon Chaisson - young bust, maybe some upside

 

For 1 tech: 

Raekwon Davis - monster of a human who I liked at draft time who has not put it together. i'd take a shot. he was released so no comp pick

Greg Gaines - fire hydrant NT formerly of the Rams and Bucs

Leki Fotu - formerly of the Jets, another behemoth human

 

Corner: 

Asante Samuel Jr...sound like they are in on him. he is excellent in zone, smallish, but I don't hate it

Jonathan Jones - Former Pat whose coach is now here. Would be a stopgap guy, but can still ball and should be cheap

Eric Stokes - Young, very fast, has had issues staying healthy. By all accounts, he was going to be their pick in the 2021 draft. 

Jeff Okudah - overdrafted, but young and fast and still has upside

Benjamin St-Juste - Big long corner who has some experience in a similar system playing for Ron Rivera

Kristian Fulton- Another young with upside guy

 

RB: 

Hopefully we can bring back Ty, but I am assuming Ty is gone, we need a new third down back: 

Travis Homer - really good on third downs, similar size and speed to Ty, he blocks. Really good on special teams

Kenneth Gainwell - from the Eagles, versatile and does a lot of things well

Raheem Blackshear - former Bills UDFA, he was not tendered by the Panthers, but he was pretty good in a third down role. No comp pick impact

 

That what I got for the day!

Really good post,thank you.  Lots of options left.  I offer Bosa,let's see what he can do in rotation.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It will be interesting what today brings.  Wife's having surgery today ( I'm in the waiting room) so I'll be off and on today.

Best of luck to your wife!

[MikePJ76]

6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Ok so day two debrief...sorry kind of long, but here is what is on my mind...note that some of these guys may have signed while I was typing this....

 

WR:

If we still want a speed guy, a lot of those guys are still on the market, but guys who could work: 

WR Rondale Moore - 4.32 (young with upside...he is short but he is thick, a little meatball of muscle...his highlights are fun)

WR Elijah Moore - 4:35 

WR Devin Duvernay - 4.39

 

I really think they are going to roll with Rapp and Bishop, but...

Safety: 

Justin Reid - good player - instant starter, probably too expensive

Justin Simmons - old but been a Mahomes killer

Julian Blackmon - They were in on him last year

Marcus Epps - Josh's teammate at Wyoming would be a solid depth add

Reyshawn Jenkins (he could be a sneaky add as he has connections to some of the staff here and he got released so no comp pick. versatile) to me Jenkins makes the most sense as a third guy...

 

DL

There are a bunch of D - line guys:

 

A logjam of older vets who can get you a few sacks: Bosa, Preston Smith, Z'darius Smith, Donte Fowler...

 

Other mid/interesting adds: 

John Cominsky - one guy the cover 1 dudes were talking about, he is like Hoect in that he is a small school dude who is versatile and can play all over the DL. 

Kentavius Street - another versatile guy who has ties to Ryan Nielsen

James Lynch - a former Baylor Dave Aranda guy who has versatility across the front

 

Young busts with maybe some upside: 

Payton Turner - bust, but young and has ties to Nielsen

Joe Tryon - another bust who is young and maybe interesting

Josh Uche - young bust with upside

K'Lavon Chaisson - young bust, maybe some upside

 

For 1 tech: 

Raekwon Davis - monster of a human who I liked at draft time who has not put it together. i'd take a shot. he was released so no comp pick

Greg Gaines - fire hydrant NT formerly of the Rams and Bucs

Leki Fotu - formerly of the Jets, another behemoth human

 

Corner: 

Asante Samuel Jr...sound like they are in on him. he is excellent in zone, smallish, but I don't hate it

Jonathan Jones - Former Pat whose coach is now here. Would be a stopgap guy, but can still ball and should be cheap

Eric Stokes - Young, very fast, has had issues staying healthy. By all accounts, he was going to be their pick in the 2021 draft. 

Jeff Okudah - overdrafted, but young and fast and still has upside

Benjamin St-Juste - Big long corner who has some experience in a similar system playing for Ron Rivera

Kristian Fulton- Another young with upside guy

 

RB: 

Hopefully we can bring back Ty, but I am assuming Ty is gone, we need a new third down back: 

Travis Homer - really good on third downs, similar size and speed to Ty, he blocks. Really good on special teams

Kenneth Gainwell - from the Eagles, versatile and does a lot of things well

Raheem Blackshear - former Bills UDFA, he was not tendered by the Panthers, but he was pretty good in a third down role. No comp pick impact

 

That what I got for the day!

St juste is interesting to me.  Big dude and a lot of penalties but I trust this staff to coach him to be better.

 

i am bummed there is no safety help coming

Edited 19 hours ago by MikePJ76

[Negan]

Wonder if there's anything left in the dumpster to scrape?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Have to admit that I am disappointed we didn’t sign Holland. He signed for 3/45, which is actually less than I thought he would get. I wonder if we at least talked with him?

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Best of luck to your wife!

Thanks. She is now in post op

[DCofNC]

1 minute ago, 2003Contenders said:

The issue for the 49ers, I believe, is that he has a large roster bonus coming up -- and if they designate him as a post-June 1 cut, I believe they are responsible for paying him that bonus (even if he is picked up by another team).

 

Personally, I would prefer a healthy Ayiuk over Metkalf -- and we just saw the large contract (plus trade compensation) the Steelers gave up for Metkalf. Of course, the operative word there is "healthy", and the injury that Ayiuk experienced last season was devastating.

Ahh yes that guarantees in April, can’t cut him in June.  I’m with you, WHEN HEALTHY, I’d take him over Metcalf, but is he going to return to form?  It’s a huge gamble, but bc of that, I’d assume the capital to trade for him would have to be low.  If they would move him for a 4th or less, I’d run the risk and just tell Palmer, sorry man, good luck out there.