Cap Space Thread

[TheWeatherMan]

Lots of churn with the cap numbers with contract extensions, releases, and possible trades.  All you cap gurus please post your latest assessment as to where the Bills are at cap wise.  

[GunnerBill]

Reminder from the start that although the cap sites had us c.$10m over at the Combine Beane said his calculations were more like $4m over. 

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Reminder from the start that although the cap sites had us c.$10m over at the Combine Beane said his calculations were more like $4m over. 

 

Thanks for that info.  With the extensions it seems pretty certain after Groots' cap savings Beane has the Bills currently

under the cap.

 

As many have already said in other threads, Beane will free up cap as he needs it.

Nothing really to do but sit back and see if trades and FA signings happen.

[BarleyNY]

There’s no way to calculate cap space until the contract details of all these extensions come out. Were just gonna have to sit tight until then. Also it’s worth looking at cash spend at that point too.

[TheWeatherMan]

Looks like Beane doing everything possible to free up cap.  Fully expect the Bills to be aggressive in FA unlike years past.  Need starters in the Secondary (1xS/1xCB), 1xDE, 1xWR(#1), and 2xDTs (DT/NT) all strong needs.

[billsfan89]

Doesn't Groot's extension lower his cap number? 

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Looks like Beane doing everything possible to free up cap.  Fully expect the Bills to be aggressive in FA unlike years past.  Need starters in the Secondary (1xS/1xCB), 1xDE, 1xWR(#1), and 2xDTs (DT/NT) all strong needs.

They have starting openings. They NEED top 100 players. They don’t need guys; they need dudes. Everybody eats is fun and can make for a good team. You need stars to win championships. The Bills have 1 of the top 90 players in football right now. They need 4 when the season kicks off (Dawkins probably makes 2). The top of the roster needs to get better. 

[Magox]

The way the Bills have recently structuring their deals with 1 voided year, I think you can assume they are about $2-4 M under the cap

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

Doesn't Groot's extension lower his cap number? 

It should lower it by quite a bit.

[Magox]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

Doesn't Groot's extension lower his cap number? 

Yes 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

Doesn't Groot's extension lower his cap number? 

 

Will be shocking if it didn't.  In fact in Groots case, that's about the only logically reason to give him an extension right now as the 5th year options is pretty high, think around $15 mil??

[Virgil]

Ahem, I came here for cap space numbers 🤷🏻‍♂️

[H2o]

23 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Ahem, I came here for cap space numbers 🤷🏻‍♂️

I know. I keep checking in every time the thread gets bumped, only to find myself disappointed again. 

[KOKBILLS]

Spotrac does not have the Groot deal figured in yet... Groot was set to count 13.387M and the Bills were 8.421M over before the deal. So it's safe to say at this point they are slightly under the Cap. 

 

[Richard Noggin]

Just now, KOKBILLS said:

Spotrac does not have the Groot deal figured in yet... Groot was set to count 13.387M and the Bills were 8.421M over before the deal. So it's safe to say at this point they are slightly under the Cap. 

 

 

Mmm there it is. Numbers.

[GolfandBills]

For what it’s worth Bean said last time he spoke his numbers were around 4 million over the cap before these deals.  That’s quite less than spotrac had been showing 

[NewEra]

6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They have starting openings. They NEED top 100 players. They don’t need guys; they need dudes. Everybody eats is fun and can make for a good team. You need stars to win championships. The Bills have 1 of the top 90 players in football right now. They need 4 when the season kicks off (Dawkins probably makes 2). The top of the roster needs to get better. 

We need stars on defense imo  The defense is the biggest contributor to our season ending every season.  The pass rush more specifically.  When the chiefs lose in the playoffs, it’s due to a good pass rush.  It’s a common theme.  And our pass rush isn’t up to par.  
 

I don’t think adding a superstar on O is going to get this team over the top given how our defense will inevitably play in the biggest games.  

 

Give me a DL that can win.  Until we have that- I think our season most likely end with an L

[GolfandBills]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

We need stars on defense imo  The defense is the biggest contributor to our season ending every season.  The pass rush more specifically.  When the chiefs lose in the playoffs, it’s due to a good pass rush.  It’s a common theme.  And our pass rush isn’t up to par.  
 

I don’t think adding a superstar on O is going to get this team over the top given how our defense will inevitably play in the biggest games.  

 

Give me a DL that can win.  Until we have that- I think our season most likely end with an L

They can do both doesn’t have to be one or the other.  

Edited 6 hours ago by GolfandBills

[TheWeatherMan]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

We need stars on defense imo  The defense is the biggest contributor to our season ending every season.  The pass rush more specifically.  When the chiefs lose in the playoffs, it’s due to a good pass rush.  It’s a common theme.  And our pass rush isn’t up to par.  
 

I don’t think adding a superstar on O is going to get this team over the top given how our defense will inevitably play in the biggest games.  

 

Give me a DL that can win.  Until we have that- I think our season most likely end with an L

Agree, but also have to consider the offense failed to score on their last possessions the last two playoff losses, which could/should have sealed a win.  

Edited 6 hours ago by TheWeatherMan

[HomeskillitMoorman]

3 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Agree, but also have to consider the offense failed to score on their last possessions the last two playoff losses, which could/should have sealed a win.  

 

That's a very simplistic way to look at it though. Like this year we put up 29 points in the playoffs vs one of the top defenses in the league and I believe had been the only team to score 30+ on them all season while allowing 32 points to a mediocre offense. 

 

The defense has let us down in the playoffs every single season of this era. That's where the real problem lies.