Greg Rousseau Extended (4 years / 80M / 54M Guaranteed)

[GunnerBill]

16 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Spotrac is really bad at projections. I wouldn’t use them for anyone. OTC’s valuations are better, but they’re usually still off. Plus they are for the previous season so you have to extrapolate them. I think they had him at $17M+ for 2024. The problem with these simple calculations is that there is no nuance. You have to see how players play against better competition and in high leverage situations. They aren’t set up to do that. 

 

Yea the comparisons on Spotrac are somewhat useful. The actual projection numbers often way off.

[TheWeatherMan]

Not a fan of this at all, I hope I’m wrong and will gladly eat crow if he turns into a star DE. 

[Aussie Joe]

8 minutes ago, Brand J said:

Good question. Beane has to find him in the draft. I feel like he’s due to hit on an edge rusher with all the swings and misses he’s already taken. 
 

Edit: still could knock on Jerry’s door for Parsons to see what that would take. 

 

I would prefer them to make a difference making move in FA that can have an impact straight away …that’s unlikely to happen in the draft at Pick 30..

Maybe do both - Might have to settle on Robin in the meantime if the big boys aren’t available 

9 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Couldn't we have gotten Hendrickson for a little bit more ?

no .. because they won’t trade him to us

Edited Saturday at 06:44 PM by Aussie Joe

[BillsPride12]

4 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Not a fan of this at all, I hope I’m wrong and will gladly eat crow if he turns into a star DE. 

Still waiting to see the final plan.  If they bring in Garrett or trade up in the draft for a stud Edge guy and their plan is for Rousseau to be the complimentary guy I love it but if they are planning on him as being the anchor of the D-Line I'll be disappointed. 

Edited Saturday at 06:47 PM by BillsPride12

[TheWeatherMan]

30 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Groot needs a partner on the other side.  Von is not it.

 

Greg led the team in TFLs with 16.  Double the next D player with 8 (AJE).

Greg led the team in QB Hits with 24.

Greg led all DEs in tackles.

Greg led the team in FF with 3.

 

Von rarely pushes the QB toward Groot.  My eyes has Von running past the QB more often than not.

Another good or great DE will make a huge difference.

I do think Beane is going in on another DE in FA.

 

Groot also needs to move back to LDE>

Rousseau is the only starting caliber DE on this team, so it makes sense he led the team in most DE categories.

[billsfan89]

This was the number I pegged for Groot that was fair to me. He’s not an elite DE but he’s very good and this pays his in that range. I hope he has that Ed Oliver 2023 season where maybe getting the contract eases his mind and he just can ball out. Either way 3 out of 5 drafted 2026 free agents taken care of on reasonable deals. Love to see it, take care of Benford next 

[paulmm3]

I like the Rousseau deal more than the Bernard deal but it doesn't make me feel great the amount of money we're handing out to re-sign members of one of the worst defenses in the league last year.

[Saint Doug]

1 hour ago, Process said:

Hard to believe he's only 24yo

 

Still older than Edmunds. 

[FireChans]

Just now, TheWeatherMan said:

Rousseau is the only starting caliber DE on this team, so it makes sense he led the team in most DE categories.

Damar Hamlin led all Bills safeties in tackles, TFLs and INT’s. Do we open negotiations with $20M or $25M AAV? 

[Logic]

Re-signing a 24 year old edge that's still ascending and was ranked 9th in HAVOC created last year to what appears to be a below market deal is good business. 

For those pointing out the playoff disappearance: Yep, its true. But it doesn't undo the good year he had up until that point or the fact that he's a plus starter.

For those saying it takes us out of the "insert favorite trade target or free agent here" market: No it doesn't. If anything, it helps, because this deal likely lowered his cap hit for this season.

For those saying "we're just keeping the status quo": First of all, that's silly. Every team re-signs its good players while ALSO still adding more. We haven't gotten to the "adding more" section of the offseason yet, so prematurely saying "status quo" is dumb and reactionary. Furthermore, "status quo" was division champion for the fifth straight year and one drive away from the Super Bowl, so the statement is dumb for TWO reasons.

We'll wait to see the full contract breakdown, as always, but all indications so far is that it's a team friendly deal that will keep Groot here through his prime and won't preclude them from adding more pieces.

Haters gonna hate...

Edited Saturday at 06:55 PM by Logic

[Doc Brown]

I'm somewhat surprised by the negativity on this one.  I understood the Bernard critique.  I thought $20m a year was a steal given the premium of the position.  I was expecting the 4 year $100m news.  

[Logic]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

I'm somewhat surprised by the negativity on this one.  

First day on Two Bills Drive? 😜

[Doc Brown]

8 minutes ago, paulmm3 said:

I like the Rousseau deal more than the Bernard deal but it doesn't make me feel great the amount of money we're handing out to re-sign members of one of the worst defenses in the league last year.

He was also on the defense that ranked #1.  That's pry the worst critique I've seen of the trade.

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Rousseau is the only starting caliber DE on this team, so it makes sense he led the team in most DE categories.

 

Offenses also knew that too.  RTs walked Von up the field and QBs drifted away from Groot.

I'm not saying Groot is outstanding, but he was needed to be extended and Beane needs an RDE.

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

First day on Two Bills Drive? 😜

I don't know.  I get my timelines messed up.

[The Jokeman]

29 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

What is the obsession with Josh sweat all of a sudden?

 

did a backwards hat YouTube guy say to sign him or something.

 

Under 30 and coming off Super Bowl hype. Please note my comments about adding him were in jest.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, TheWeatherMan said:

Not a fan of this at all, I hope I’m wrong and will gladly eat crow if he turns into a star DE. 

 

Tbf at $20m AAV he doesn't need to be a star DE. If he is an 8 sack a year guy every year of this deal, with maybe one double digit year thrown in and it will be worth it. Just needs to be consistently the best version of what he has been. It is high end edge #2 money. In the Greenard / Huff / Highsmith area. 

 

That isn't to say I love it as an idea - paying a #2 DE when you don't have a #1 and as I have said before I thought his AFCCG performance was arguably his worst game as a Bill. But these are high end #2 numbers which is kinda what I see Groot as. 

[Special K]

16 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Not a fan of this at all, I hope I’m wrong and will gladly eat crow if he turns into a star DE. 

 

There was a lot of sentiment like this after the Spencer Brown extension.......personally, I think this extension will work out the same way as Brown's

[Logic]

 

 

 

[Aussie Joe]

Aaron Quinn splooging hard over this gives me a few concerns