Greg Rousseau Extended (4 years / 80M / 54M Guaranteed)

[Magox]

5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

This year it creates 10 mil space. But his contract will kick in for 2026 and that's where it will get a bit expensive 

It won‘t

 

He will end up being less than 3.5% of the entire cap in 2026 and around 4% in 2027, assuming the Bills use the 1 voided year which seems to be their recent M.O

[finn]

21 minutes ago, Magox said:

For those that only base his value off of his sack production 

 

15th in the league in solo tackles at DE

- 10th in the league in Tackles for loss as a DE

- 3rd in the league in forced fumbles at DE

- 10th in the league in Stops at DE

-19th in the league in sacks at DE

- 18th in the league in Hurries at DE

- 2nd in the league in QB hits at DE

- 10th in the league in Total QB pressures

- 11th in the league in Batted Passes

-12th in the league in PFF ratings

 

And he did this by being

 

- 25th in the league in Total snaps

- 32nd in Run defense snaps

-17th in pass rush snaps

 

And he also had 2 sacks in the playoffs this past year.

 

$20M AAV and if you include his $13m for 2025 that means over the next 5 years his AAV will be $18.6M

 

He will cost around 2% of the cap in 2025

Leas than 3% in 2026

And less than 4% in 2027

 

Not to mention close to $10M in cap savings for 2025 providing lots of flexibility to go after more FA and trade targets!

 

 

And he did this playing either on his less favorable side or opposite Epenesa, one of the weaker starting ends in the league. 

[Brand J]

2 minutes ago, finn said:

Not as young as Tremaine. Just saying. 

Cut candidate in Chicago. Still can’t believe they got suckered in to paying him all that money. 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/chicago-bears/news/bears-underperforming-tremaine-edmunds-tabbed-cut-candidate/7b66305a764d65f90e3209ce

 

[finn]

22 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Got the number 2 guy …

 

Now find the No 1 … 

Sounds familiar. 

[Chandler#81]

 

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

In 2 years all these deals over the last few days are going to seem like huge bargains. 

 

Hopefully. So far the examples we have are Knox who turned out to be a massive overpay, Oliver who I would say we about broke even on and are still hoping for more, and Brown who looks like a great bargain. So we are 1 for 3 in this sort of move ending up as you say.

[Aussie Joe]

5 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I wasn’t crazy to see this deal because it likely means Buffalo isn’t coming away with a Myles Garrett type player.   

nah …doesn’t mean that all… I expect them to make another move …although they won’t be able to wait around on Garrett becoming available if that stretches out ..

[finn]

Just now, Brand J said:

Cut candidate in Chicago. Still can’t believe they got suckered in to paying him all that money. 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/chicago-bears/news/bears-underperforming-tremaine-edmunds-tabbed-cut-candidate/7b66305a764d65f90e3209ce

 

Edmunds in Chicago, Gabe in Jacksonville, Diggs in Houston... the players we let go aren't showing too well. Maybe Beane does know what he's doing after all. 

[Magox]

 

100%

[HappyDays]

23 minutes ago, Magox said:

Incorrect

 

He had a sack in the Denver game and another one in the Ravens game.

 

No one showed up on defense Va the Chiefs specially the DB’s and coaching schemes

 

Here's my question for you and anyone else who loves this extension - if Rousseau remains exactly the player he has been, do you think he is worth this money? For me the answer is a hard no. I would guess the Bills feel similarly. They are betting that he is going to improve. For all the advanced stats that rank him higher than his production would indicate, he has maxed out at 8 sacks. Even with the exploding salary cap I don't believe 8 sack players are worth $20M AAV.

[FireChans]

48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Ew

[Allen2Moulds]

43 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Don’t love it.  Doesn’t make the big plays in crucial situations.   I would have let him play out his 5th.  
 

I would’ve had no issues if he walked and somehow did great for another team.   I don’t see how he is currently worth 20 mil per.

 

Anything over 15 per is a problem for me with Groot.  
 

Would have much rather seen Benford get his deal, work FA and the draft, then circle back to Groot 

Exactly how I feel. Groot gives T Edmund vibes. Ohh...he's young, he's going to bring out this year, and that year never comes. Now at an inflated salary. For those that say he could've gotten just as much, or even more on the open market. I don't dispute this, but dumb teams overpay all the time.

[nedboy7]

He’s gonna thrive opposite of Trey Hendrickson 

[Magox]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Here's my question for you and anyone else who loves this extension - if Rousseau remains exactly the player he has been, do you think he is worth this money? For me the answer is a hard no. I would guess the Bills feel similarly. They are betting that he is going to improve. For all the advanced stats that rank him higher than his production would indicate, he has maxed out at 8 sacks. Even with the exploding salary cap I don't believe 8 sack players are worth $20M AAV.

Based off last years production this contract which in all intents and purposes is up to $18.6m AAV over the next 5 years matches up.

 

I posted the advanced stats multiple times, you can find them in this thread.

 

Through objective lens it’s a good deal.

 

The beauty is that he is ascending, that’s not in dispute.  I would assume he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet unless last year was the peak and I don’t see any evidence to suggest that.

[Juice_32]

This is a steal even if his current production holds. AND I still don't think he's hit his ceiling. 

[The Jokeman]

43 minutes ago, Beast said:

With 3 of those coming in 1 game. So he had 5 paltry sacks in the other 16.

Garrett had 9 games without a sack last season. 

[Magox]

 

This is what I’ve been saying over and over.

[nedboy7]

3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Garrett had 9 games without a sack last season. 

If he was a Bill we would hate him and declare he’s overrated. 

[JohnNord]

15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No. It does not mean that at all.

 

in fact it increases the chances of a big move

How so?  Let’s say that you sign Trey Hendrickson.   He’s likely going to want a new 3-4 year deal before being traded.  If you’re Buffalo will you allocate $40M+ on your two DE’s?   Probably not.

 

They’ll still add at EGDE I just don’t think it will be an impact player like we all had been hoping for.  

[Maynard]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Here's my question for you and anyone else who loves this extension - if Rousseau remains exactly the player he has been, do you think he is worth this money? For me the answer is a hard no. I would guess the Bills feel similarly. They are betting that he is going to improve. For all the advanced stats that rank him higher than his production would indicate, he has maxed out at 8 sacks. Even with the exploding salary cap I don't believe 8 sack players are worth $20M AAV.

It’s a hard no from me as well.