Bills look for debt waiver as stadium costs rise

[SoCal Deek]

Suddenly there a bunch of construction cost experts on this Message Board. Who knew?

[chongli]

5 hours ago, dwight in philly said:

So What 

 

It matters because otherwise there could be multiple threads on the same topic which would clog up this board. That's why on game day, there is only one designated thread to discuss the game as it is playing, so the site doesn't become overwhelmed and slowdown or worse.

 

It's also a matter of courtesy not to post something someone else has already posted. Just like ethical journalists always credit their source(s) and/or the original poster. Otherwise the original source is peeved.

[BuffAlone]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

I doubt that. I know a lot of people think "tariffs will only add 10% to the cost of the end product!" or "if supplies aren't coming from tariffed countries, no issues!" but that's not what happens (not saying YOU specifically).

 

Add 10%+ to every bit of manufacturing & distribution up & down the supply chain, plus whatever price increases these guys will add to keep their expected margins, keep up with expected inflation, or simply take advantage of the opportunity to raise costs. Then you factor in if these companies use labor, shipping or whatever from affected countries at any point in the chain. A company may be importing materials from a country outside of tariffs, but that doesn't mean who they're importing from doesn't have their own costs tied in with another tariffed country.

 

And given how interconnected so many of these companies/countries are, always looking for the cheapest route possible while increasing their own margins, prices go up across the board & leak into other markets.

Meh....most of the structrual building costs have been paid for. Shipping,maybe. But nothing has even kicked in yet in the ways of tarrifs. It's just a fact. Zero implications of cost due to tarrifs(that haven't happened as of yet).Not debating economics here,just pointing that fact out

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Suddenly there a bunch of construction cost experts on this Message Board. Who knew?

And sports franchise marketing experts as well.  

[GoBills!]

The Amish would have had this things built already! 

[dwight in philly]

13 hours ago, chongli said:

 

It matters because otherwise there could be multiple threads on the same topic which would clog up this board. That's why on game day, there is only one designated thread to discuss the game as it is playing, so the site doesn't become overwhelmed and slowdown or worse.

 

It's also a matter of courtesy not to post something someone else has already posted. Just like ethical journalists always credit their source(s) and/or the original poster. Otherwise the original source is peeved.

Priorities, ok

[Buffalo03]

This sounds like an episode of "Love It Or List It". Is Hillary building the stadium and now she needs more money for the budget?

[RiotAct]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

This sounds like an episode of "Love It Or List It". Is Hillary building the stadium and now she needs more money for the budget?

barn doors throughout!

[Returntoglory]

15 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

totally mismanaged.   There should be a dome for this amount.  

"But no one wants a dome!" 🤔

[MarkyMannn]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

This sounds like an episode of "Love It Or List It". Is Hillary building the stadium and now she needs more money for the budget?

You know Hillary was a porn star. 😃 Still YES for me

[LabattBlue]

IMO…Make no mistake about it, once the fans commit to the PSL’s, the annual STH ticket prices imcreases will jump a lot.  

Edited 6 hours ago by LabattBlue

[SoonerBillsFan]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

This sounds like an episode of "Love It Or List It". Is Hillary building the stadium and now she needs more money for the budget?

Well...it IS is in New York...

[SoCal Deek]

33 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

This sounds like an episode of "Love It Or List It". Is Hillary building the stadium and now she needs more money for the budget?

So you’re saying we’re not getting individual urinals? Crap! 

[WotAGuy]

18 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

‘The Ralph’ cost $22 million to build by its completion, in 1973, It served us well, (and in my opinion) could continue to do so. Having worked in construction, when I was a much younger man, my *OPINION*, is that contractors ‘make up schitt, as they go along’, and people (executive types,  in particular) simply go along with it. Recently, I inquired about a soffit job on my 180 degree half round porch on the front of my house. The gentleman who I contacted, stated that ‘I could easily see this costing $80,00.00’ . He was quickly, but politely, shown the door. I’m (grudgingly) going to do the job myself, for an estimated $500, in materials. (Sheesh!)

C’mon!  If you were in construction you must realize that guy has more than enough work lined up, but if you wanted to bend over, he’d take the job on. 

[Returntoglory]

It's kind of amazing this could happen in this day and age for such a substantial amount. 

[Buffalo03]

1 hour ago, MarkyMannn said:

You know Hillary was a porn star. 😃 Still YES for me

I was not aware of that actually

[Mr. WEO]

he should sell the Sabres to cover a little bit of that overrun....

[PromoTheRobot]

23 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Crazy that it’s $2.2B and no roof. Not a huge fan of dome/ retractable stadiums but just doesn’t seem like the value is there. 

 

Hindsight but they waited too long to start this stadium project. 3 years earlier and It would have cost $750MM.

[BUFFALOBART]

5 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

C’mon!  If you were in construction you must realize that guy has more than enough work lined up, but if you wanted to bend over, he’d take the job on. 

I guess, that you want the Bills, to ‘bend over’. since that is exactly, what they are doing. “No questions, asked’= BAD policy!

21 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Suddenly there a bunch of construction cost experts on this Message Board. Who knew?

Geez, - guess that you never worked in the field. Are you willing to “ assume the position’, as well???

4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I was not aware of that actually

Some people, will believe ***anything***! 🎃

[BUFFALOBART]

5 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

C’mon!  If you were in construction you must realize that guy has more than enough work lined up, but if you wanted to bend over, he’d take the job on. 

Maybe for someone swing a hammer, and nails. 

5 hours ago, Returntoglory said:

It's kind of amazing this could happen in this day and age for such a substantial amount. 

A contract is a contract. - until it isn’t 

20 hours ago, FLFan said:

And sports franchise marketing experts as well.  

Like you, for example.