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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

So give us your opinion on cod liver oil, vitamin A, clarithromycin and MMR. We can look at the data retrospectively like we now can on hydroxycloroquine and ivermectin. Your argument for those was that there was no other treatment. There no treatment for measles but there IS a vaccine. 
 

betting doesn’t count. There are plenty of US vaccine skeptics. Just look at this board…

 

The MMR vaccine is what people should get.  It's been around for decades.

 

But as you said, there's no treatment for measles, so if you didn't get vaccinated and get measles, you're SOL.  It's not like you can get the MMR at that point.

 

And I have little doubt the vast majority of those who were unvaccinated were illegals.  While those who were vaccinated weren't...and yet still got measles.

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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Nope. Punching dummies who shouldn’t be basing health decisions on “their own research”. 

Then you are punching yourself.  

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2599911/#:~:text=The majority of deaths in,are consistent with these findings.

The majority of deaths in the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic likely resulted directly from secondary bacterial pneumonia caused by common upper respiratory–tract bacteria. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Then you are punching yourself.  

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2599911/#:~:text=The majority of deaths in,are consistent with these findings.

The majority of deaths in the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic likely resulted directly from secondary bacterial pneumonia caused by common upper respiratory–tract bacteria. 

 

 

"clearly and consistently implicated secondary bacterial pneumonia caused by common upper respiratory–tract bacteria in most influenza fatalities."

 

Cause of death is still influenza.

 

I had a patient come in through the ER for a bee sting.  He had heart problems.  He had a severe allergic reaction to the sting.  He was appropriately given epinephrine in the ER,, which along with the anaphylaxis caused him to have a heart attack and die.  I wrote "bee sting" as his primary cause of death on his death certificate.  The pathologist on the case agreed.

 

At any rate, measles is the topic.  Try top keep up.

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Don't know about that state.  But up here in NY there is no option not to get vaccinated for MMR.  Unless your.........

 

Even the amish suit to keep their religion exemption were tossed.  

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Don't know about that state.  But up here in NY there is no option not to get vaccinated for MMR.  Unless your.........

 

Even the amish suit to keep their religion exemption were tossed. 

 

An illegal?

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It's getting worse.  1/5 of west texan kids aren't vaccinated but those are all illegals, right "Doc"?  They are the source of all of our problems.  Vermin.

 

We should all be thankful for the brilliant minds of vaccine skeptics like RFK jr, "Bobby" as trump called him.  I bet his family would disown him if they could.

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/us-measles-cases-jump-35-in-a-week-now-found-in-12-states-11741405555623.html

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8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

It's getting worse.  1/5 of west texans aren't vaccinated but those are all illegals, right "Doc"?  They are the source of all of our problems.  Vermin.

 

We should all be thankful for the brilliant minds of vaccine skeptics like RFK jr, "Bobby" as trump called him.  I bet his family would disown him if they could.

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/us-measles-cases-jump-35-in-a-week-now-found-in-12-states-11741405555623.html

You are an embarrassment to the medical community, if you’re even a doctor. Which I have my doubts. 

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16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

It's getting worse.  1/5 of west texans aren't vaccinated but those are all illegals, right "Doc"?  They are the source of all of our problems.  Vermin.

 

We should all be thankful for the brilliant minds of vaccine skeptics like RFK jr, "Bobby" as trump called him.  I bet his family would disown him if they could.

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/us-measles-cases-jump-35-in-a-week-now-found-in-12-states-11741405555623.html

I recall during the COVID outbreak stories of how officials in South Korea did a very good job of contact and traceability while tracking and identifying COVID cases and the spread of the virus. I'm curious if there are any such efforts among American health officials to identify patient zero here and identify contacts with infected persons and how its spreading? Is this standard procedure with these types of outbreaks?

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20 minutes ago, Westside said:

You are an embarrassment to the medical community, if you’re even a doctor. Which I have my doubts. 

your grammar is an embarrassment to the official language of the US.

7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I recall during the COVID outbreak stories of how officials in South Korea did a very good job of contact and traceability while tracking and identifying COVID cases and the spread of the virus. I'm curious if there are any such efforts among American health officials to identify patient zero here and identify contacts with infected persons and how its spreading? Is this standard procedure with these types of outbreaks?

Yes, of course.  From my link:  

Tracking an Outbreak 

A team of CDC experts is now in Texas after the Department of State Health Services requested federal help for tracking the outbreak on Feb. 28. Three CDC physicians with experience in infectious disease and four epidemiologists are split across the West Texas region where the outbreak is located, a spokesperson for the state’s health department said in an email.  

The whole team is from the CDC’s viral vaccine preventable disease branch in the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

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21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

So Mr expert what about bacterial pneumonia and Spanish”flu”?

 

yes, that cluster occurred among migrants. It spread among the unvaccinated just like the current one

 

maybe you should give up on commenting on microbiology 

 

 


People might take you seriously that you’re actually concerned about measles outbreaks if you didn’t then default lib and deflect when people point out the very real issue of unvaccinated, and many times unhealthy, illegal migrants flooding the border for the past 4 years. 

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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

It's getting worse.  1/5 of west texan kids aren't vaccinated but those are all illegals, right "Doc"?  They are the source of all of our problems.  Vermin.

 

We should all be thankful for the brilliant minds of vaccine skeptics like RFK jr, "Bobby" as trump called him.  I bet his family would disown him if they could.

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/us-measles-cases-jump-35-in-a-week-now-found-in-12-states-11741405555623.html

 

Again this is very revealing.

 

LOL!  Like anyone ever listened to RFK Jr.  before he ran for President. 

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46 minutes ago, SCBills said:


People might take you seriously that you’re actually concerned about measles outbreaks if you didn’t then default lib and deflect when people point out the very real issue of unvaccinated, and many times unhealthy, illegal migrants flooding the border for the past 4 years. 

What about 1/5 of kids in West Texas being unvaccinated do you not understand?  Do you think 1/5 of all kids in W Texas are migrants?

11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Again this is very revealing.

 

LOL!  Like anyone ever listened to RFK Jr.  before he ran for President. 

then why would trump name him Sec of HHS?  If no one ever listened to him, he wouldn't be a good choice and should never have been nominated nor approved by R senators, non?

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31 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What about 1/5 of kids in West Texas being unvaccinated do you not understand?  Do you think 1/5 of all kids in W Texas are migrants?

Depending on how you define west Texas, absolutely 20% of the people are not native born. There are parts of El paso that are majority Mexican. 

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36 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

then why would trump name him Sec of HHS?  If no one ever listened to him, he wouldn't be a good choice and should never have been nominated nor approved by R senators, non?

 

Who ever listened to Xavier Becerra?

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24 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Depending on how you define west Texas, absolutely 20% of the people are not native born. There are parts of El paso that are majority Mexican. 

no one mentioned native born.  in fact, "doc" specifically blamed "illegals".

19 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Who ever listened to Xavier Becerra?

yes, because he and "bobby" are of similar intellects and accomplishments🙄...

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6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, because he and "bobby" are of similar intellects and accomplishments🙄...

 

Who is more intelligent and accomplished in your mind?  Before running for President/being tapped for HHS?

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4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Who is more intelligent and accomplished in your mind?  Before running for President/being tapped for HHS?

congressman for 25 years, stanford law, attorney general for Cali etc vs an ambulance chaser lawyer who makes money from the drug companies he  hates and will continue to receive as head of HHS

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/01/22/nx-s1-5271582/rfk-hpv-vaccine-merck

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23 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Keep drinking that kool aid. Add in some cod liver oil and vitamin A. I’m sure you’ll prosper. 

Well no. They died from an H1N1 flu. It’s a virus. Antibacterials wouldn’t have helped. Anti virals weren’t available til late 20th century. 

Don't forget HCQ.  Hopefully states like Oklahoma still have big HCQ stockpiles.  Now it's time to deploy them. 

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