Brianmoorman4jesus Posted Friday at 03:27 AM Posted Friday at 03:27 AM I hope von comes back at a workable number. I think he’s been good for the team and he’s an all time great. Make the money right and let him get a ring with us 1 1 1 Quote
khlax3 Posted Friday at 03:27 AM Posted Friday at 03:27 AM If this gets done it also opens up the possibility of cutting or trading epenesa and saving 3.5 million. you could potentially include epenesa in a package for Hendrickson. Hendrickson for 2nd, 4th, and epenesa 2025 Defensive Ends: (Hendrickson, Groot, von, 2nd rounder, Solomon) looks pretty solid to me 1 1 Quote
Breakout Squad Posted Friday at 03:39 AM Posted Friday at 03:39 AM 48 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Bye, bye. He’s a cancer. That’s harsh. Quote
Mark Vader Posted Friday at 03:52 AM Posted Friday at 03:52 AM Miller taking a pay cut, again, would be great for us. I don't see him as a negative on this team. 5 6 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Friday at 04:02 AM Posted Friday at 04:02 AM (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Miller taking a pay cut, again, would be great for us. I don't see him as a negative on this team. Joe Marino of Locked on Bills feels that keeping Von takes snaps from a younger player the Bills might draft or sign. I can see the point. Edited Friday at 04:03 AM by PromoTheRobot 3 Quote
sullim4 Posted Friday at 04:31 AM Posted Friday at 04:31 AM 25 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Joe Marino of Locked on Bills feels that keeping Von takes snaps from a younger player the Bills might draft or sign. I can see the point. This would be the reason I would get rid of him. I don't see him as a "cancer" or a problem in the locker room. I don't think he's the most upstanding human being, but I also think for the organization he seems to be well liked and he is trying to make a deal to stay. I think you reward that, especially given the Cook situation where he may hold out for more money. Also understand that as the season goes on... perhaps Miller's snap count goes down and you start plugging in younger talent. Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted Friday at 04:34 AM Posted Friday at 04:34 AM 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Beane said to Von, "put your GM hat on for a minute, what would you suggest?" Post of the day! Quote
Thurman#1 Posted Friday at 05:48 AM Posted Friday at 05:48 AM 2 hours ago, khlax3 said: If this gets done it also opens up the possibility of cutting or trading epenesa and saving 3.5 million. you could potentially include epenesa in a package for Hendrickson. Hendrickson for 2nd, 4th, and epenesa 2025 Defensive Ends: (Hendrickson, Groot, von, 2nd rounder, Solomon) looks pretty solid to me I'd love that deal for Hendrickson. But if I were the Bengals I wouldn't do it. Of course, the Bengals do stuff that seems to hurt them all the time. So, who knows. 1 Quote
ganesh Posted Friday at 07:33 AM Posted Friday at 07:33 AM 5 hours ago, Rew said: Been saying this since the season ended. If Von wants to play, he'll be on the team. We can have him play this year for no additional cap hit with a big performance slider that we probably pay under 10M net. He was absolutely good enough to be a strong rotational pass rusher with upside. I have no problem with him being here as long as the comp matches performance. The problem was that he disappeared in the game against the Chiefs. 2 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted Friday at 09:43 AM Posted Friday at 09:43 AM (edited) I posted in the other thread I thought this might happen. I don’t think Von wants to switch teams at this stage in his career. He wants one more Super Bowl. I think he knows he can do a lot for his legacy, especially in WNY, with a championship. Not to mention, guys going to be fully healed. Obviously he’s going to lose impact at his age but he could flash more than in 24, especially with low reps in high leverage moments. Maybe we see a bit more of that bend. Players like him and he seems to be a good talent recruiter / well connected. He also seems to mentor our younger pass rushers which is very valuable. If we can make the numbers work we would be dumb not to do it. Edited Friday at 09:43 AM by Mikie2times 1 Quote
DJB Posted Friday at 10:24 AM Posted Friday at 10:24 AM (edited) If he takes a pay cut and becomes our #3 DE because we’ve upgraded I’d be real happy with that Edited Friday at 10:31 AM by DJB 3 Quote
H2o Posted Friday at 11:04 AM Posted Friday at 11:04 AM 6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Joe Marino of Locked on Bills feels that keeping Von takes snaps from a younger player the Bills might draft or sign. I can see the point. As long as he's strictly a rotational guy. And depending on his performance, low rotation. The big thing would be saving more $$$ by having him on the team. If he looks completely washed, let him ride the pine and play the player/coach role. 1 Quote
Spiderweb Posted Friday at 11:12 AM Posted Friday at 11:12 AM (edited) After his performance in the loss against KC to end our season, I truly hoped he had just played his last game for the Bills. Once he made his initial rush, he quit afterward on so many plays it was sickening. Once a great player, now a mere shadow of his former self. Edited Friday at 11:13 AM by Spiderweb Quote
bmur66 Posted Friday at 11:16 AM Posted Friday at 11:16 AM I'd pay him by the sack, TFL, Int. with a low base salary Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted Friday at 11:50 AM Posted Friday at 11:50 AM Dude can still get home. Take a massive pay cut and stay or go somewhere else thank you so much. Quote
bearstobills Posted Friday at 11:59 AM Posted Friday at 11:59 AM The big story here is that Muki broke the news! Quote
nosejob Posted Friday at 12:07 PM Posted Friday at 12:07 PM It's a no for me. 3rd down is the most important down in pass rush and getting off the field. Him taking up those snaps to put up 8 sacks maybe, over the season? I'd rather roll with Groot , Reddick, Solomon and Princely. Also draft a big strong end later in the draft. Fix the interior 1st. Quote
Yard Monkey Posted Friday at 12:33 PM Posted Friday at 12:33 PM https://apple.news/AmDbEglGHRPu6Zrih38Qpbw Pure speculation from Bleacher Report but I suppose it could be possible. I suppose Von COULD also take a trip to the moon next month. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Friday at 12:38 PM Posted Friday at 12:38 PM 9 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If we can save more than cutting him fine, but this changes nothing as for as FA and draft needs. 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted Friday at 12:42 PM Posted Friday at 12:42 PM 2 hours ago, DJB said: If he takes a pay cut and becomes our #3 DE because we’ve upgraded I’d be real happy with that Von is already our #3 DE unless he gets passed up by Solomon, a rookie and or a Smoot re-signing. For as much abuse as Epenesa gets as a player here, he is better and cheaper than Miller at this stage of his career. 1 1 Quote
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