Von Miller & Bills trying to agree on contract?

[Warriorspikes51]

Say what you want about Von, but not many pro athletes are willing to do this sort of thing

 

props to him if he takes another big paycut

 

& who knows maybe he could stay healthy and manage to get 8-10 sacks 

[Lost]

I would talk him into retiring and offer him a coaching role of some kind.  

[Rew]

Been saying this since the season ended.  If Von wants to play, he'll be on the team.

 

 We can have him play this year for no additional cap hit with a big performance slider that we probably pay under 10M net.  He was absolutely good enough to be a strong rotational pass rusher with upside.  I have no problem with him being here as long as the comp matches performance.

[That's No Moon]

10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Say what you want about Von, but not many pro athletes are willing to do this sort of thing

 

props to him if he takes another big paycut

 

& who knows maybe he could stay healthy and manage to get 8-10 sacks 

Did he look as fast at any point in the year as he did on the first play against New England when he needed that sack to hit his bonus? Did he look that fast at any point after? 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Rew said:

Been saying this since the season ended.  If Von wants to play, he'll be on the team.

 

 We can have him play this year for no additional cap hit with a big performance slider that we probably pay under 10M net.  He was absolutely good enough to be a strong rotational pass rusher with upside.  I have no problem with him being here as long as the comp matches performance.

he actually was near the top of the league in either pass rush win rate %or pressure %  the last few months of the year

1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

Did he look as fast at any point in the year as he did on the first play against New England when he needed that sack to hit his bonus? Did he look that fast at any point after? 

Vet minimum + 1 million per sack incentives?

 

Von with 20 sacks  DPOY 😂

[uticaclub]

If he plays for what his dead cap would be it's a wash

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Beane said to Von, "put your GM hat on for a minute, what would you suggest?"

[CA OC Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

If he plays for what his dead cap would be it's a wash

That's basically what Joe Marino has been saying for the past week. He must take a pay cut at least equivalent to the $8.3 million (I may not have remembered exactly correct, but I'm sure I'm close) cap relief we'd get by cutting him. Marino says even then he's fine either way, would kind of prefer to just cut him and get younger.

[Big Blitz]

7 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Did he look as fast at any point in the year as he did on the first play against New England when he needed that sack to hit his bonus? Did he look that fast at any point after? 

 

The rush against Arizona late in the game still stands out to me.  
 

It was a good “get right” season for him derailed by the suspension.  
 

Keep him at 30 percent of the snaps; free up cap space.  I think his presence is important.  

[That's No Moon]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

The rush against Arizona late in the game still stands out to me.  
 

It was a good “get right” season for him derailed by the suspension.  
 

Keep him at 30 percent of the snaps; free up cap space.  I think his presence is important.  

Arizona. Week 1. Great.

[Billsatlastin2018]

Free is good.

[Fixxxer]

12 minutes ago, Lost said:

I would talk him into retiring and offer him a coaching role of some kind.  

 

If I'm not mistaken, Miller onced talked about pursuing a FO position rather than coaching one. 

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

If he plays for what his dead cap would be it's a wash

It would equal out for this season, but there’d be an additional hit next season. 

[SoCal Deek]

Bye, bye. He’s a cancer. 

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[TBBills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I'd be okay with that if we save more than by cutting him. You keep a Situational pass rusher and spend less than if he were cut seems like a win win.  His mindset is going to be completely team driven if he does that to stay 

[Slack_in_MA]

37 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Did he look as fast at any point in the year as he did on the first play against New England when he needed that sack to hit his bonus? Did he look that fast at any point after? 

He ran pretty well for 40 yards with that scoop after Lamar’s fumble in the playoff game. Still can’t believe that guy didn’t knock it out of his hands.

[gonzo1105]

I’ve been saying outside of a roster spot, if Miller is willing to take a steep paycut it is way more advantageous to the Bills to keep him for salary cap purposes both this year and then ask him to go to base salary before retiring next off season 

[SydneyBillsFan]

So,

 

- 6.2 million guaranteed 

- offer him 500k per sack

 

If he gets say 8 sacks that's 10.2 million....that works for me

 

 

[Nephilim17]

He wants to be the second player in NFL history to win SBs with 3 different teams (Matt Millen is the only one).

The problem, as far as I'm seeing, with him accepting a pay cut equivalent to his dead cap is he still $3.7 million in prorated signing bonus next year that is dead money if we cut him.

If we cut him (take the all the dead cap hit this year) then re-sign him, I'd be better with that. I don't want Miller dead cap in 2026.