Another one - Trey Hendrickson asks for a trade from Cincy

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

How does cincy now pay higgins and chase after that metcalf deal?

 

it seems like they will have a serious issue here.

JJ Watt went on some TV show or podcast and remarked on how stupid Mike Brown was to not extend Chase early. When you have an elite guy, the price only goes up the longer you wait. He should have been extended two years ago. But Mike Brown only does one big contract a year. It's all the cash that he has. Two years ago, they did Burrow. Then, they tried to do Chase last year but wouldn't budge off 25M. Ja'marr wanted to get more than Jefferson. You can understand him because Ja'marr Chase is the best WR in the NFL. Then they made him a promise to make him the "highest paid non-QB" but then the Stains (what Bengals fans call the Browns) went and paid Garrett all that cash. Now they got Higgins and Chase unsigned, an antsy Burrow, and an angry Trey Hendrickson. And that's after losing DJ Reader and Jesse Bates. The Bengals were a play away from winning a Super Bowl in 2021. Now, that core is either gone, unsigned, or angry. You can complain about Beane, but the Bengals have managed a Super Bowl window about as badly as a team could.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 3/6/2025 at 3:28 PM, Virgil said:

Him or Garrett works for me.  This guy knows Mahomes as good as anyone.  Being 30 isn’t great though.  
 

I would think the Bengals would want to resolve this situation soon, so they can make choices about Higgens. 
 

This is already turning into a somewhat crazy offseason with about of bigs names being released or traded on the trade block.  

There’s no way Cinci is going to trade him inside a very competitive conference.

[Codyny13]

I think you see with Garret, and after reading Trey’s comments about not wanting to be elsewhere, this is all about getting paid, something Cincy is notoriously cheap about. I’m not sure how this ends..

[JohnNord]

12 hours ago, Low Positive said:

JJ Watt went on some TV show or podcast and remarked on how stupid Mike Brown was to not extend Chase early. When you have an elite guy, the price only goes up the longer you wait. He should have been extended two years ago. But Mike Brown only does one big contract a year. It's all the cash that he has. Two years ago, they did Burrow. Then, they tried to do Chase last year but wouldn't budge off 25M. Ja'marr wanted to get more than Jefferson. You can understand him because Ja'marr Chase is the best WR in the NFL. Then they made him a promise to make him the "highest paid non-QB" but then the Stains (what Bengals fans call the Browns) went and paid Garrett all that cash. Now they got Higgins and Chase unsigned, an antsy Burrow, and an angry Trey Hendrickson. And that's after losing DJ Reader and Jesse Bates. The Bengals were a play away from winning a Super Bowl in 2021. Now, that core is either gone, unsigned, or angry. You can complain about Beane, but the Bengals have managed a Super Bowl window about as badly as a team could.  

I believe the old-fashioned term is “penny wise, pound foolish.”  Cincinnati publicly said they were committed to making Chase the highest paid non QB in the NFL but proceeded to do nothing.  

Now Garrett is making $40M and Metcalf has $30M+ per season.  So saving a few million could easily end up costing Cincinnati over $10 million dollars just on Chase!  

[SCBills]

3 hours ago, Codyny13 said:

I think you see with Garret, and after reading Trey’s comments about not wanting to be elsewhere, this is all about getting paid, something Cincy is notoriously cheap about. I’m not sure how this ends..

 

I read he turned down a 2 year extension worth 32M per year. 

 

If accurate, is he looking for a 3 years extension at 100M because I don't know how comfortable I'd be giving that contract out on top of his one year left at 30 years old.   Takes him through age 34.  

 

Unlike the Browns and Raiders, yea.... I don't know that the Bengals are suddenly going to cave.  

 

Bengals folks still say this is basically a "Come back to us with a deal we can't refuse or you're playing out your contract".

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

59 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I read he turned down a 2 year extension worth 32M per year. 

 

If accurate, is he looking for a 3 years extension at 100M because I don't know how comfortable I'd be giving that contract out on top of his one year left at 30 years old.   Takes him through age 34.  

 

Unlike the Browns and Raiders, yea.... I don't know that the Bengals are suddenly going to cave.  

 

Bengals folks still say this is basically a "Come back to us with a deal we can't refuse or you're playing out your contract".

I’d be comfortable as hell. 70.5 sacks the past 5 years. Those numbers are absolutely unreal. I don’t see any sign of him slowing down. He is well worth a late 1st and one of our 3rds. Hendrickson would instantly propel the Bills defense to the top of the NFL.

[stuvian]

I'd love to see him as a Bill but I'm not expecting it

[Warriorspikes51]

At the risk of giving out false hope

 

Commanders did just trade 4 picks to get Tunsil.  They were one of the teams thought most likely to land him, if not the top team

 

 

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

At the risk of giving out false hope

 

Commanders did just trade 4 picks to get Tunsil.  They were one of the teams thought most likely to land him, if not the top team

 

 

Two of the picks were 2026 … and they still have a 2025 2nd Round … so they are not prevented from acquiring Hendrickson 

Edited March 11 by Aussie Joe

[Magox]

 

 

I'm guessing that the Bills made an offer to trade for Trey and the Bengals rejected it because of the comp.

 

Then the Bills didn't have the luxury to wait around and pulled the trigger on Bosa.   That's what I'm speculating as to what happened.

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

 

I'm guessing that the Bills made an offer to trade for Trey and the Bengals rejected it because of the comp.

 

Then the Bills didn't have the luxury to wait around and pulled the trigger on Bosa.   That's what I'm speculating as to what happened.

Not an unreasonable ask IMO.....  I'd still give pick 30 + for him 

 

Beane never will though.  He likely offered a 2nd

Edited March 13 by Warriorspikes51

[Low Positive]

Two things can be true:

1. Mike Brown never had any intention of trading him, so he set the bar where it knew it would never be met.
2. Hendrickson is probably worth a first. 

Why is Hendrickson only worth a second, but Myles Garrett would have fetched multiple firsts? I know Garrett is the better player but, at least based on production over the past 5 seasons, the gap is not that big. I think people, including NFL GMs, still take draft positioning into account when assessing value.

[DrDawkinstein]

 

 

Classic Mike Brown

36 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Not an unreasonable ask IMO.....  I'd still give pick 30 + for him 

 

Beane never will though.  He likely offered a 2nd

 

20 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Two things can be true:

1. Mike Brown never had any intention of trading him, so he set the bar where it knew it would never be met.
2. Hendrickson is probably worth a first. 

Why is Hendrickson only worth a second, but Myles Garrett would have fetched multiple firsts? I know Garrett is the better player but, at least based on production over the past 5 seasons, the gap is not that big. I think people, including NFL GMs, still take draft positioning into account when assessing value.

 

I think its the "and more" part that is the issue.

 

I'd bet there are a handful of teams willing to give up a 1st for Hendrickson. 

 

I'd also bet Mike Brown wants way more than that.

[Logic]

42 minutes ago, Magox said:

The question for me with the "and more" part is....HOW much more?

Because if its, say, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 4th, I'd do that deal. Look at the Bills' recent track record in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Hendrickson is already a finished product and likely gives 3-4 years of top end defensive line play.

So how much more is "and more"?

All of that said, it seems highly unlikely. The Bills just paid Rousseau and signed Bosa, plus they have Epenesa, Hoecht, and Soloman. So unless they're cutting/trading Epenesa, I'm not seeing a Hendrickson trade on the horizon.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Be careful what you wish for. Browns and Steelers fans hate how much cap space is tied up in guys like Garrett and watt. That same thought is why the bengals are trading Hendrickson.

Tying up so much money in 1 defensive player is not a great way to build your team. If we want an elite pass rusher, have to hit a home run in the draft. 

[Magox]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

The question for me with the "and more" part is....HOW much more?

Because if its, say, a 1st, a 2nd, and a 4th, I'd do that deal. Look at the Bills' recent track record in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Hendrickson is already a finished product and likely gives 3-4 years of top end defensive line play.

So how much more is "and more"?

All of that said, it seems highly unlikely. The Bills just paid Rousseau and signed Bosa, plus they have Epenesa, Hoecht, and Soloman. So unless they're cutting/trading Epenesa, I'm not seeing a Hendrickson trade on the horizon.

 

Another consideration is that you are looking to trade for someone who is 30 years old who will be looking for probably around $35M+ a year AAV.  That dilutes the trade value.

 

Also, Buffalo's recent track record of their 1st and 2nd rounds I don't believe factors in at all.  I don't believe any teams GM goes into a trade possibility negotiation thinking "We haven't had the success we'd like with our premium picks, so lets trade it away to get a proven player".   I truly believe that is how fans may think but not GM's, specially one like Brandon Beane.  I believe they value their premium picks very much so.

 

Also, we don't know if the Bills tried and if they did what they offered.  My belief is they did make a bid which is reasonable to believe since there was some reporting that there was a bid for Myles Garrett and that whatever they bid was rejected by the Bengals.

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Be careful what you wish for. Browns and Steelers fans hate how much cap space is tied up in guys like Garrett and watt. That same thought is why the bengals are trading Hendrickson.

Tying up so much money in 1 defensive player is not a great way to build your team. If we want an elite pass rusher, have to hit a home run in the draft. 

 

In the Bills case they are close. If the Bills could get Hendrickson (I doubt the Bengals trade him here) then that could be the move that puts them over the top and they bring a Lombardi to WNY. Of course there is always the risk it doesn't work. I agree with you about the draft. Beane needs to hit a HR with a strong draft class for DL.  The lack of pass rush has hurt this team for years now and its one of the main reasons the Bills have yet to play in a Super Bowl.

[JohnNord]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

In the Bills case they are close. If the Bills could get Hendrickson (I doubt the Bengals trade him here) then that could be the move that puts them over the top and they bring a Lombardi to WNY. Of course there is always the risk it doesn't work. I agree with you about the draft. Beane needs to hit a HR with a strong draft class for DL.  The lack of pass rush has hurt this team for years now and its one of the main reasons the Bills have yet to play in a Super Bowl.

Cincinnati is just plain stupid how they handle situations like this.  
 

 

[Logic]

8 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Cincinnati is just plain stupid how they handle situations like this.  
 

Yep.

If anyone ever fails to realize or appreciate what having GOOD team ownership and general manager looks like, I'd direct them to look over at the Cincinnati Bengals.

THAT is what it looks like to have bad, cheap ownership and a bad general manager. Waiting on the Chase extension only to see him post one of the best WR seasons ever and up his pricetag considerably, waiting on the Tee Higgins extension only to have to try to get it done at the same time they're trying to extend Chase, agreeing to let their all-world EDGE seek a trade. WOOF.

Sometimes I hear people say that Beane or McDermott are wasting Allen's prime. But if you want to see what wasting a quarterback's prime REALLY looks like, let me present the Cincinnati freakin Bengals.

[DrDawkinstein]

20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Be careful what you wish for. Browns and Steelers fans hate how much cap space is tied up in guys like Garrett and watt. That same thought is why the bengals are trading Hendrickson.

Tying up so much money in 1 defensive player is not a great way to build your team. If we want an elite pass rusher, have to hit a home run in the draft. 

 

I cant believe that Garrett's cap hit is even on the Top-20 list of fan grievances with that team.