Sleep Apnea

[BringBackFergy]

Took test. Yep. Have apnea

company from WNY calls. “We have your machine. Can we run it through your insurance?”

Two days later: Your insurance only covers $50/month. You’ll need to pay $685 up front and $110 for the next 16 months. 
 

No thanks. Scam. 

[Goin Breakdown]

Yep. I stopped using my Cpap though. I just can't get over the claustrophobic feeling I get with the mask on. Even after months. I'd wake up every night after sleeping for 1 hour and 35 mins on the dot and take it off while half asleep and wake up like "ohh I took it off again". If I snore I just leave the room and sleep someplace else. Problem solved. Sort of   

[Just Jack]

Diagnosed a couple years ago, my test night I think they recorded around 60 times in one hour on average. When I would have to drive for work, Syracuse to either Albany or Buffalo, each being about a 2-2.5 hour drive, I'd have to stop at least once to take a 20-minute nap or risk falling asleep at the wheel, I was so tired. Now I can't imagine sleeping without it.  I did make adjustments to the settings after using it the first week. They had set up the pressure to start at 4 and it felt like I was struggling to breathe, so I changed it to 5. The high end was set to 16, I dropped it down to 15 since it felt, as someone here said earlier, like a leaf blower on my face. Before I had it, it was not unusual for me to sleep 8-10 hours on the weekends and still be tired.  Now 7 hours seems to be my sweet spot and I'm not as tired as I used to be.  Insurance paid for the unit also. 

Edited Thursday at 03:41 AM by Just Jack

[US Egg]

There is legitimacy to health concerns relating to sleep apnea. Weight, alcohol, sleep meds, strong anti-depressants can be significant contributors. Most who have issues with such things usually go the route of the B/C PAP rather than addressing them first, if at all.

[Sweats]

15 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I think he’s trying to get a CPAP, but he doesn’t have sleep apnea. He just snores. 

 

You can’t just go to a store and buy these things, as far as I know. They need to be adjusted and all that, but even new tubes and nose pads they treat like a controlled substance. Maybe that has changed, because it should. 

 

So……did it stay saved? 

 

I kid, I was there. She moved to another room so I went to another room first and gave her our room. I was the problem. It was routine for a while. 

 

I’m glad that’s behind us. 

 

 

 

My snoring and constantly tossing and turning at night (broke my back and neck years ago and i'm in constant pain and can never get comfortable) had my wife saying enough cause it disrupted her sleep at night, so i usually sleep in the spare room.........you know, the one with the piss-stained mattress.

 

So, you guys wonder why i come on here in a bad mood sometimes, well let's summarize here.......

 

* Constant pain and can't get comfortable no matter what.........(check)

* A wife that kicks me when i do manage to fall asleep because of my snoring........(check)

* A constant fear of a wife that may or not may contribute to my death 5-6 times a night because i stop breathing, which may or may not include a pillow.........(check)

* Sleeping on a piss-stained mattress.........(check)

 

Sometimes, the reality of dying in my sleep is actually comforting to me.

 

[Simon]

33 minutes ago, Sweats said:

My snoring and constantly tossing and turning at night (broke my back and neck years ago and i'm in constant pain and can never get comfortable) had my wife saying enough cause it disrupted her sleep at night, so i usually sleep in the spare room.........you know, the one with the piss-stained mattress.

 

So, you guys wonder why i come on here in a bad mood sometimes, well let's summarize here.......

 

 

4 spinal surgeries here and chronic pain for decades.

What helped me the most has been cutting weight; it takes a lot of pressure off and lessens the pain.

What might help your wife (and as a result, you) is trying a CBD/CBN combo as a sleep aid. It's not some pie in the sky BS, it actually works. It won't knock you out but once you're asleep it has a sedative effect that will legitimately keep you asleep. The CBN is the important part, but I feel like the CBD combined with it helps activate it and make it more effective.

[Sweats]

16 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

4 spinal surgeries here and chronic pain for decades.

What helped me the most has been cutting weight; it takes a lot of pressure off and lessens the pain.

What might help your wife (and as a result, you) is trying a CBD/CBN combo as a sleep aid. It's not some pie in the sky BS, it actually works. It won't knock you out but once you're asleep it has a sedative effect that will legitimately keep you asleep. The CBN is the important part, but I feel like the CBD combined with it helps activate it and make it more effective.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for this, brother.

[Simon]

10 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

Thanks for this, brother.

 

I know it sounds like hippie bullshlt and a waste of time, but you have got to try the stuff.

No bad side effects like pharmaceuticals, no next day grogginess like melatonin and it makes me sleep better than I have since I was a kid.
I virtually guarantee you'll think it was worth it if you take the time to track some down. I think you're a Canuck so maybe some relatively local cannabis shop might carry it?

I get it in an oil and use 4-8 drops so it's easy to control dosage.

[Augie]

22 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I know it sounds like hippie bullshlt and a waste of time, but you have got to try the stuff.

No bad side effects like pharmaceuticals, no next day grogginess like melatonin and it makes me sleep better than I have since I was a kid.
I virtually guarantee you'll think it was worth it if you take the time to track some down. I think you're a Canuck so maybe some relatively local cannabis shop might carry it?

I get it in an oil and use 4-8 drops so it's easy to control dosage.

 

My son’s dog is a hyper, barking PITA, and we get some CBD stuff from the vet when we are keeping her. There is no doubt in our minds that it clearly helps. 

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

My son’s dog is a hyper, barking PITA, and we get some CBD stuff from the vet when we are keeping her. There is no doubt in our minds that it clearly helps. 

 

I haven't had a lot of luck with CBD personally, although I do think it probably works if done right.

But this CBN has been stunningly effective for me. Enough so that if I inadvertently take a couple extra drops, walking down the hall to the bathroom at 3am is hilariously similar to walking through a carnival funhouse. 

[Royale with Cheese]

I use a Breath Right nose strip each night and got one of those contour pillows....that's helped a lot.

[teef]

we treat mild to low moderate apnea in our office with mandibular sleep devices.  I mostly do mild apnea, but I'll make appliances for someone in the moderate range if they feel they can't wear the cpap at all, or want on for travel.

 

I think the story @Neo describes is important.  those multiple episodes per hour are dangerous.  look up an apnea video, and it's shocking to watch someone gasp for breath.  the thought it everyone of those episodes pumps cortisol into your system, and those constant spikes are assumed to lead to heart attacks.  this is why we hear stories about people dying in their sleep due to apnea.  also as @Neo mentioned, looking for signs of grinding can help with the diagnosis.  when you grind, you teeth have to meet.  this means the mandible isn't resting passively on your airway, reducing the number of episodes.  

 

i took some courses from a guy in florida about it.  this dude has two practices where the only dentistry he does is sleep apnea.

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I haven't had a lot of luck with CBD personally, although I do think it probably works if done right.

But this CBN has been stunningly effective for me. Enough so that if I inadvertently take a couple extra drops, walking down the hall to the bathroom at 3am is hilariously similar to walking through a carnival funhouse. 

 

Maybe it’s CBN that they give us, but it works. 🤷‍♂️

 

My wife admitted to our son that last time around she didn’t read the instructions and didn’t know until too late that each piece was supposed to be broken into 4 doses. OOPS! No barking from the dog that night!  It was a doggy funhouse that time! 

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Maybe it’s CBN that they give us, but it works. 🤷‍♂️

 

My wife admitted to our son that last time around she didn’t read the instructions and didn’t know until too late that each piece was supposed to be broken into 4 doses. OOPS! No barking from the dog that night!  It was a doggy funhouse that time! 

 

I can just picture the dog the following week: "Hey guys, when are we going back to Grandma's?!"

[Neo]

3 hours ago, teef said:

we treat mild to low moderate apnea in our office with mandibular sleep devices.  I mostly do mild apnea, but I'll make appliances for someone in the moderate range if they feel they can't wear the cpap at all, or want on for travel.

 

I think the story @Neo describes is important.  those multiple episodes per hour are dangerous.  look up an apnea video, and it's shocking to watch someone gasp for breath.  the thought it everyone of those episodes pumps cortisol into your system, and those constant spikes are assumed to lead to heart attacks.  this is why we hear stories about people dying in their sleep due to apnea.  also as @Neo mentioned, looking for signs of grinding can help with the diagnosis.  when you grind, you teeth have to meet.  this means the mandible isn't resting passively on your airway, reducing the number of episodes.  

 

i took some courses from a guy in florida about it.  this dude has two practices where the only dentistry he does is sleep apnea.

 

 

Forgive me, I wrote cortisone instead of cortisol.   I’ve been telling that story wrong for months!   Oooops.

 

Further, after suffering undiagnosed for years, and getting a CPAP in October, I underwent a double bypass in December.   Everything’s related.   I’m grateful for an oral surgeon’s power of perception and his willingness to speak up.

 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 hours ago, teef said:

we treat mild to low moderate apnea in our office with mandibular sleep devices.  I mostly do mild apnea, but I'll make appliances for someone in the moderate range if they feel they can't wear the cpap at all, or want on for travel.

 

I think the story @Neo describes is important.  those multiple episodes per hour are dangerous.  look up an apnea video, and it's shocking to watch someone gasp for breath.  the thought it everyone of those episodes pumps cortisol into your system, and those constant spikes are assumed to lead to heart attacks.  this is why we hear stories about people dying in their sleep due to apnea.  also as @Neo mentioned, looking for signs of grinding can help with the diagnosis.  when you grind, you teeth have to meet.  this means the mandible isn't resting passively on your airway, reducing the number of episodes.  

 

i took some courses from a guy in florida about it.  this dude has two practices where the only dentistry he does is sleep apnea.

 

I've been told that I grind my teeth a lot in my sleep.  My dentist sees the wear on them.

I went to go see an ENT and he told me he doesn't believe I have sleep apnea.  

 

I do notice some days, my jaw is easily fatigued.  Like when I'm eating, my jaw gets tired from chewing.  Like I have to take a break, then get back to chewing.

[boater]

CPAP was one of the Top-10 best things to happen to me. I sleep like baby with it. Without it, I have a terrible sleep.

 

A game changer was a new CPAP machine. I had the old Philips-Respironics (the one that was recalled), what a piece of crap. I have a ResMed now, it is much quieter.

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, boater said:

CPAP was one of the Top-10 best things to happen to me. I sleep like baby with it. Without it, I have a terrible sleep.

 

A game changer was a new CPAP machine. I had the old Philips-Respironics (the one that was recalled), what a piece of crap. I have a ResMed now, it is much quieter.

 

I have the ResMed. When I really snored I could sleep in another bedroom at home, but when we traveled there were issues. That is an extra piece of luggage when you fly. I understand accepting that if it makes your life better, but it was a bit of a nuisance. Regardless, I hope you sleep well with the new machine. 

[Just Jack]

Question for those with a CPAP.  How many are using the water reservoir?  I never have.  

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Just Jack said:

Question for those with a CPAP.  How many are using the water reservoir?  I never have.  

 

I always used it or the air would be too dry, making the experience even worse. Just my experience.