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He’s a downfield threat. I don’t get so caught up with the boundary/ slot thing. Just find good players. The Bills can do a lot worse than Kirk 

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Christian Kirk is the John Brown of Curtis Samuels. He's already a Bill.

Roundybout
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Kirk seems to be tight with Josh and was just hanging out with him again recently. I don’t think we give him as much of a deal as the Jags did, but might be a nice option.    

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1 hour ago, somnus00 said:

Brown has been living off the glory of 1 season from 4 years ago. I wasn't at all worried when KC signed him last year. He just hasn't been consistently productive.

 

Yeah, I'm not quite sure why anyone is enamored with Hollywood Brown (or would want him as a FA). Sure, his first three years he looked like he might be a player on the rise, but the last three years have not gone well for him.

 

Over the last three years

-he has only played in 28 of a possible 51 games.

-he has 1,374 yards and 7 TDs (3 year totals---good for an average of 49 yards and 0.25 TDs per game---when he was on the field)

-6-year career total is 3,735 yards and 28 TDs

[He's 27 years old]

 

I'm not sure how much more I'd want Kirk, but being friends with Josh does make it more interesting (would they have great chemistry?). I have always liked him as a player, I just don't know if his presence would create some redundancy in the WR room. But maybe if they keep expanding on the "everyone eats" philosophy, they could make it work. Looking at Kirk's last three years in comparison to Brown, he has certainly fared a bit better than Hollywood.

 

Kirk's last three years:

-played 37 of a possible 51 games

-he has 2,274 yards and 12 TDs (good for an average of 61.5 yards and 0.32 TDs per game)

-7-year career total is 5,176 yards and 29 TDs

[He's 28 years old---6 months older than Hollywood]

 

 

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

Kirk actually specifically did say this to Allen.

https://sports.yahoo.com/christian-kirk-says-bills-qb-010805615.html

 

That was three years ago (he was 25 years old). Maybe 3 years in Jacksonville has changed his mind. Do you want to be warm and have fun off the field? Or do you want to have fun on the field and contend for a championship?

 

 

1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said:

Hard No. He's not reliable. Only played over 13 games once in his career. He's hurt all the time. 

 

Yes, Kirk has had a good number of injuries over his career and it's definitely something to weigh into the conversation of course, but just to correct you, he has had 3 seasons of more than 13 games played (not just one). From 2020-2022, he only missed 2 games in 3 seasons. 2021 and 2022, he did not miss any games. He's played 93 of a total 116 games in his career---missing 23 games in 7 years (or on average 3.2 games per season). 

 

Nine of those 23 games missed were last year when he broke his collarbone. [Before the collarbone injury, he had missed 14 games in 6+ seasons---or about 2.15 games per season on average.] I broke my collarbone when I was younger. It is an extremely painful injury, but it is not too long of a recovery (like 6-8 weeks and then just building your strength back) and there are really no lingering issues with the injury (so he should be pretty close to 100% at this point, if not already there). But, he did end both of the last two season on IR, so I do get the concern.

 

Kirk injuries, last 5 seasons:

2024: broken collarbone--9 games missed

2023: groin tear--5 games missed

2022: no injuries--no games missed

2021: no injuries--no games missed

2020: groin pull--missed 2 games

 

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Steve Young was on (I think Rich Eisen's show) and related that Tom Brady ran up to him pre game during his last year with the Bucs and the two were chatting about him still playing and he said "Steve! The middle of the field is always open and nobody covers the flats... and nobody can hit me!" 

 

Today's passing game is about hitting the open guys in the flats and middle of the field and picking your time to throw one deep once the defense gets frustrated. Worked Brady's whole career but most offenses and QBs are too impatient. 

 

Point being... We need guys who get open in the slot. That's where the work is. 

 

Having a deep threat is important too, but guys who can get open are always needed. 

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5 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

I'm fine getting him.  He's a good player.  But we still need that defense-scaring WR1.  I think that could be Slayton and K. Allen combo.  

Allen is a lot with no speed.  Far from a target imo.  Slayton. Definitely 

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5 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

So that leaves a WR group of  Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, Kirk, Palmer/Brown, and high draft pick rookie.  Considering for the past few years the Bills have only carried 5 WR, means one of the above is being cut or traded.  Based on the names above Samuel would likely be that guy, but it's a big cap hit to do that.  Add to that they also have Kinkaid and Knox, and only one ball to go around. 

 

This would be a great lineup for fantasy football, but in the NFL actually have to think about what your roster will look like


I ought to invite you to my fantasy football league if you like that lineup 

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