Eagles reset RB market, extend Barkley.

[appoo]

Bills can't have a 45M-50M QB and a 15M RB. That's just reality. If it came down to it. I'd rather trade cook for a 2nd or late 1st, resign Ty Johnson, and draft a 4th/5th round RB and start Davis. 

 

And then use all them high draft picks to reinvigorate the talent on D

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[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

There are James Cook equivalents in the draft almost every year.  There are no equivalents for Barkley currently in the league nor in the draft this year.  Paying Barkley money to lesser players is a fools errand.  As much as I like James Cook, the Bills should either sign him to a reasonable contract or tag him for 2026 and draft his replacement.

They aren’t paying him Barkley money. That ship just sailed. That was yesterday’s argument. Barkley will now make a lot more than Cook, even at $15 million AAV.

2 minutes ago, appoo said:

Bills can't have a 45M-50M QB and a 15M RB. That's just reality. If it came down to it. I'd rather trade cook for a 2nd or late 1st, resign Ty Johnson, and draft a 4th/5th round RB and start Davis. 

 

And then use all them high draft picks to reinvigorate the talent on D

They can because they won’t have a $30 million WR and won’t have one for years.

[RyanC883]

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Cook just changed his pinned post to 20M 

 

And no, this doesn't make it more sensical for us to pay a smaller, more slender, RB that can't play 3 downs anything more than 10-12M per year (and even that I wouldn't do, but I'm sure Beane would)

 

 

 

agreed.  It took Cook 2 years to become Cook, and he's still not a 3 down back.  While he was more physical and elusive this year, I'm not sure he's worth over 12/year.  I'm also not sure with his attitude he keeps playing hard after being paid.  Davis also Johnson also looked great behind this OL.  I'd rather keep Johnson and draft a RB and include Cook in a trade for Garrett.  

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They aren’t paying him Barkley money. That ship just sailed. That was yesterday’s argument. Barkley will now make a lot more than Cook, even at $15 million AAV.

They can because they won’t have a $30 million WR and won’t have one for years.

 

They can, but they shouldn't.  

 

Give Cook's money to Slayton, trade Cook for a 3rd - use it on a RB and we become a scarier Offense.

 

The fact he's eyeball emoji-ing Saquons deal is absurd.  The dude can't even play 3 downs.

 

 

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[appoo]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They aren’t paying him Barkley money. That ship just sailed. That was yesterday’s argument. Barkley will now make a lot more than Cook, even at $15 million AAV.

They can because they won’t have a $30 million WR and won’t have one for years.

I'll add just because you can doesn't mean you should

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

agreed.  It took Cook 2 years to become Cook, and he's still not a 3 down back.  While he was more physical and elusive this year, I'm not sure he's worth over 12/year.  I'm also not sure with his attitude he keeps playing hard after being paid.  Davis also Johnson also looked great behind this OL.  I'd rather keep Johnson and draft a RB and include Cook in a trade for Garrett.  

His playoff performance was special to me. I think he is different. I definitely thought he was replaceable but imo there’s untapped potential. Very few miles on him. He’s also by far our most explosive player on offense.

[appoo]

11 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Cook just changed his pinned post to 20M 

 

And no, this doesn't make it more sensical for us to pay a smaller, more slender, RB that can't play 3 downs anything more than 10-12M per year (and even that I wouldn't do, but I'm sure Beane would)

 

 

All the power to him and I hope someome pays him. He seems like a good dude and I'm all for NFL players getting their worth from these billionair owners. I just don't want that going against the Bills cap. 

[NewEra]

That hurts.  Was really hoping to land Cook for 11-12M but that’s not gonna happen.  
 

I’d like to see how that’s going to impact cooks franchise tag. Eager to see if Beane plays the franchise tag game for the first time.  Definitely not his style but if there were ever a time to do it.  

[appoo]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

That hurts.  Was really hoping to land Cook for 11-12M but that’s not gonna happen.  
 

I’d like to see how that’s going to impact cooks franchise tag. Eager to see if Beane plays the franchise tag game for the first time.  Definitely not his style but if there were ever a time to do it.  

This is Cook's first eligible extension year, but he's got a year left before the franchise tag comes into play

 

My guess is if Cook doesn't get an extension he holds out

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[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

They can, but they shouldn't.  

 

Give Cook's money to Slayton, trade Cook for a 3rd - use it on a RB and we become a scarier Offense.

 

The fact he's eyeball emoji-ing Saquons deal is absurd.  The dude can't even play 3 downs.

 

 

He was drafted to play 3 downs. He can.

 

But I think the Bills have to either sign him or trade him. I hate when teams play the franchise tag game or make a player hold out.

 

Make a decision. He’s either worth it or not. 

[GASabresIUFan]

6 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

There are James Cook equivalents in the draft almost every year.  There are no equivalents for Barkley currently in the league nor in the draft this year.  Paying Barkley money to lesser players is a fools errand.  As much as I like James Cook, the Bills should either sign him to a reasonable contract or tag him for 2026 and draft his replacement.

Outside of your first line, this is a good post.  I don’t fully agree but it’s a reasonable way to handle keeping Cook.  That said, there aren’t players like Cook in every draft.  If there were every team would have a 1400 yard player.  It was so easy to get such a player it wouldn’t have been since 2007 (Lynch ) that we drafted as productive of a player.  How did letting him go work out?

[Low Positive]

31 teams in the NFL have to build rosters within the salary cap. And then there’s the Eagles.

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[NoSaint]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

His playoff performance was special to me. I think he is different. I definitely thought he was replaceable but imo there’s untapped potential. Very few miles on him. He’s also by far our most explosive player on offense.

ill continue to say that part of his support here is because we are lacking explosive guys on the perimeter. Theres a fear if he goes that there’s no electricity left outside JA17

[AkwiredTste]

[appoo]

2 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

31 teams in the NFL have to build rosters within the salary cap. And then there’s the Eagles.

The same team that's likely going to lose a stud pass rusher and key DT depth piece

[Buffalo_Stampede]

When it comes to Cook there’s an easy way to make Cook happy and also keep his cap hits low!

 

VOID YEARS. Use them. Make a 4-5 year run at a Super Bowl. Worry about cap ramifications in 5 years.

[appoo]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

His playoff performance was special to me. I think he is different. I definitely thought he was replaceable but imo there’s untapped potential. Very few miles on him. He’s also by far our most explosive player on offense.

I think getting Curtis Samuel healthy (he was injured towards the end of camp) would go a long ways.  But the Bills will add explosiveness on the outside. 

[Magox]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Using your “extend Rousseau” logic, how does this change Barkley’s percentage of the cap?

I’m not sure if I’m following you, I sense  some snarkiness.

 

I would have to see the contract details.

 

But knowing How the Eagles like to use two voided years and with the ever rapidly growing salary cap, I’m guessing that for 2025 it will be somewhere around 2.5% of the cap, 2026 around 3% and 2027 around 4% .  He would still have 2028 but hard to say what they do with him then.

[appoo]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

When it comes to Cook there’s an easy way to make Cook happy and also keep his cap hits low!

 

VOID YEARS. Use them. Make a 4-5 year run at a Super Bowl. Worry about cap ramifications in 5 years.

 

Which comes with a huge signing bonus for that to be effective, but that's actually what the Eagles and Beane do now. 

[SoCal Deek]

16 minutes ago, appoo said:

Bills can't have a 45M-50M QB and a 15M RB. That's just reality. If it came down to it. I'd rather trade cook for a 2nd or late 1st, resign Ty Johnson, and draft a 4th/5th round RB and start Davis. 

 

And then use all them high draft picks to reinvigorate the talent on D

Nor can they swim with that ridiculous albatross of Von Miller’ contract hanging around their necks.