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Just now, L Ron Burgundy said:

I'm gonna be pissed if anyone elite goes for very few resources.   Not often is so much elite talent available. 

We don't know if Crosby and Garrett are actually available. In fact, both teams insist that they are not. 

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2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

It’s Garrett all day. He gets the team over the hump in my opinion.


This, and it’s honestly not close IMO.

 

Woukd I be excited if we got DK, sure, but if it’s one or the other it’s hands down Garrett.

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8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:


This, and it’s honestly not close IMO.

 

Woukd I be excited if we got DK, sure, but if it’s one or the other it’s hands down Garrett.


well it’s like a top 2-3 pass rusher vs a very middle of the pack WR1, right? 
 

we are just talking a much better overall player at what might be an even larger need. 

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There's a sense of urgency to solve the defense,  and that's where the team should focus.  Someone like Metcalf  should be second to any defensive player (assuming Metcalf is top on most fan's wishes) so Garrett is the one priority and then some other DL  via trade, in free agency  i don't see any player who can change the team's defense. 

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Respectfully, any answer that isn't a game changing defensive player, is the wrong answer.  

 

Our offense is not the issue.  It's easily good enough to take us all the way.  But to expect your offense to have to score 30+ points in every playoff game to win is insane.

 

And honestly, for the McD questions, if we get a Garret and don't go to the SB, then McD has to go.  

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I have more confidence that we can identify and draft an outside speed WR than we can find an elite pass rusher so I'll go with Garrett. And to be clear, the outside guy doesn't have to be elite, just serviceable at running deep routes. Much easier to find.

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10 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Respectfully, any answer that isn't a game changing defensive player, is the wrong answer.  

 

Our offense is not the issue.  It's easily good enough to take us all the way.  But to expect your offense to have to score 30+ points in every playoff game to win is insane.

 

And honestly, for the McD questions, if we get a Garret and don't go to the SB, then McD has to go.  

 

I agree the offense is very good.  But Allen deserves better weapons than he has.  If the Bills had a great wideout last year, they win that playoff game against the Chiefs. Yes they had Diggs, but he looked and acted like he could care less.

 

This year if the Bills had a go to receiver who could open things up more in the intermediate and long range, the Bills would have been much harder to beat. The Chiefs could do so much more on defense without having to be overly concerned with those routes, though Hollins burned them a few times.

 

I agree that the defense needs much more work, but now think finishing the offense first with Metcalf makes more sense.  And then using all that they have this year, and probably some of next year's capital, to nail the defense, including some very good free agents/trades.

 

Then, they may have an historically good offense and a much improved defense, a good combo, enough to put them over the top.

 

 

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Definitely Metcalf as he's only 27.   Four years of having Metcalf and Shakir all in their primes catching balls from Allen in his prime would be ideal.  Bonus would be if Coleman and Kincaid develop into studs as well.

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10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Definitely Metcalf as he's only 27.   Four years of having Metcalf and Shakir all in their primes catching balls from Allen in his prime would be ideal.  Bonus would be if Coleman and Kincaid develop into studs as well.

 

And both Coleman and Kincaid are big guys, like Metcalf. Not only would he open things up for them on the field, and for the other pass catchers, but would be able to mentor them as well, teach them how to be pro receivers, which is something both need  in order to take the next steps in this league. Just go back and listen to what McDermott said about each player after the season. A coach can teach them, but a player like Metcalf can also show them.

 

And the age thing is huge to me. Hated the Miller move because he was an old dude, especially for his position, and in obvious decline. Garrett likely has several good years left, but we don't know that is the case.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Shortchaz said:

Crosby is a pot head, I don’t think he fits in this locker room but 🤷‍♂️


I would easily say 80% of NFL players are pot heads.  Millionaire 20 year olds and weed is legal pretty much everywhere.  Im sure McDermott knows Bills players smoke on a regular basis.  Ive seen Josh’s eyes in some pics…he’s vaping up for sure.

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I hope the Bills don’t see Safety as all good to go.

 

Rapp is the Bills enforcer, but two straight post seasons he’s been hurt.

 

Cole “Lost in Space Bishop”, Hamlin is a FA, and Cam Lewis.

 

No playmaking, no speed (Bishop’s 4.45 was not evident on the field).

 

Bills to get two new starters back there with some ball hawking skills, size, speed, feel for the game. 
 

Rapp is physical in the run game, and that’s about all this group has going for it right now. 

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2 hours ago, njbuff said:

I get why most Bills fans want Garrett, but does he move the needle to the necessary point it needs to be for the Bills to win the SB?

Yes I think it does. Elite players make plays when it counts.  He's the best in the league right now

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1 minute ago, Mister Defense said:

 

And both Coleman and Kincaid are big guys, like Metcalf. Not only would he open things up for them on the field, and for the other pass catchers, but would be able to mentor them as well, teach them how to be pro receivers, which is something both need  in order to take the next steps in this league. Just go back and listen to what McDermott said about each player after the season. Yes, a coach can teach them, but a player like Metcalf can also show them.

 

And yes, the age thing is huge to me. Hated the Miller move because he was an old dude, especially for his position, and in obvious decline. Garrett likely has several good years left, but we don't know that is the case.

 

Not sure about his leadership abilities but I am sure we are severely lacking at outside WR.  It was borderline gross negligence last year before we signed Cooper.  I could easily see the argument for DE over WR.  Especially with what the Eagles did to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.  However, Beane's number one priority should be to make sure the offense "doesn't lose its fastball" to quote McDermott.

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11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I hope the Bills don’t see Safety as all good to go.

 

Rapp is the Bills enforcer, but two straight post seasons he’s been hurt.

 

Cole “Lost in Space Bishop”, Hamlin is a FA, and Cam Lewis.

 

No playmaking, no speed (Bishop’s 4.45 was not evident on the field).

 

Bills to get two new starters back there with some ball hawking skills, size, speed, feel for the game. 
 

Rapp is physical in the run game, and that’s about all this group has going for it right now. 

This!

 

I hate to burst everyone's bubble but this team simply doesn't have the resources to go big splash all over the place. Some are talking about both Garrett and DK Metcalf...not just about them with only about 30 million to work with...

 

Buffalo needs safety help, CB help, DL help, edge rusher help, along with a deep threat might be a go to on the cheap. 

 

My thoughts are to sign the current roster players and perhaps add someone like Kahlil Mack. Use that cap space to sign some good DBs too. Go all in on the defensive side in the draft. 

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I’m not sure if a WR1 changes the outcome of the Chiefs game (and anyway our offense had seized momentum in the 2nd half until the refs botched the 4th and 1 call)

 

but I’m positive Myles Garrett changes the outcome. 
 

We are literally back to where we were 3 years ago knowing we were an elite pass rusher away from taking the next step in the playoffs, and honestly, Von Miller was panning out until the ACL injury.  Well, Myles Garrett is at least 3 times better and 4-5 years younger (I’m guessing) than Von was when we got him.  
 

So, it’s really a no brainer, but I also don’t think we will pull it off. Too much demand. He’s the best defender in the NFL…

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1 hour ago, Victory Formation said:

Part of me wants Myles Garrett but another part of me would be highly upset, hypothetically speaking if a stud DE goes off the board where we’re picking at #30.

I doubt there's going to be a stud like TJ Watt or somebody like that available at pick #30.

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