Tee Higgins franchised tagged by Bengals

[Alphadawg7]

Burrow, Chase, Higgins - No playoffs for 2 years.  

 

Meanwhile, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar are all having more success with nothing close to the weapons he has had.  If I am the Bengals, I am certainly looking at Burrow and saying you got Chase, we shouldn't need to invest another $26M into another WR, we should be spending that money to bring in help on the D, OL, and RB to bolster the team around you and then adding some quality cap friendly WR's in FA/Draft to fill out around Chase.  

 

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Burrow, Chase, Higgins - No playoffs for 2 years.  

 

Meanwhile, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar are all having more success with nothing close to the weapons he has had.  If I am the Bengals, I am certainly looking at Burrow and saying you got Chase, we shouldn't need to invest another $26M into another WR, we should be spending that money to bring in help on the D, OL, and RB to bolster the team around you and then adding some quality cap friendly WR's in FA/Draft to fill out around Chase.  

 

That’s what they should do. But Joe Burrow is de facto GM and is calling the shots. The interesting thing to note is that Joe Burrow’s career took off in college only when he got an all-pro team at WR. Same thing in the NFL. He doesn’t really elevate those around him as much as Allen and Lamar. Remember, the Bengals almost made the playoffs with Jake Browning at QB for half a season. 

[FireChans]

10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Did Beane ever come out and say he doesn't extend guys more than one year into their contract?  If he did my apologies but your leadership advice falls flat if applied to Beane if that isn't one of his rules.

He hasn’t come out and said it but he has done it once, ever. With Stef.

 

Even Hyde and Poyer who were criminally underpaid had to wait for contract years to get extended. Micah was getting all-pro hype making $6M AAV until 2021. Poyer was making half that until 2020. 

 

If you think that doesn’t represent a clear way of doing business in general that Beane deviated from in the case of Diggs, more power to you. I strongly disagree. 
 

IMO it was a clear attempt to keep Diggs happy with WR contracts exploding. And when you pay and play with fire with a volatile WR you get burned. 
 

Ultimately, I stand by my point it is the singular worst move of Beane’s tenure. A gigantic extension that said player didn’t play a single snap on. It honestly doesn’t get much worse than that. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:32 PM by FireChans

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Burrow, Chase, Higgins - No playoffs for 2 years.  

 

Meanwhile, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar are all having more success with nothing close to the weapons he has had.  If I am the Bengals, I am certainly looking at Burrow and saying you got Chase, we shouldn't need to invest another $26M into another WR, we should be spending that money to bring in help on the D, OL, and RB to bolster the team around you and then adding some quality cap friendly WR's in FA/Draft to fill out around Chase.  

 

It’s actually crazy how much Burrow has campaigned for them to re-sign Tee. 
 

I wonder how much he truly understands about the business. He probably looks at the Eagles and says, “why can’t we be that” when the biggest problem is the difference in ownership.

[iccrewman112]

19 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He won’t be good with it. It’ll be another distraction to start their season. It won’t go over well.

Pay Higgins for the year and draft his cost controlled replacement in the 2nd round, who can develop this season.

 

then let Higgins go after the season and get. 3rd comp pick for him.

[PrimeTime101]

2 years in a row?

[Low Positive]

17 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said:

Pay Higgins for the year and draft his cost controlled replacement in the 2nd round, who can develop this season.

 

then let Higgins go after the season and get. 3rd comp pick for him.

They tried that with Jermaine Burton last year and failed. Everyone here thought that they got the "steal" of the draft, but no amount of talent overcomes a low work ethic. It's the one character flaw that a player can't have, even if they play for a team that will accept all manner of off-field problems. Pacman Jones was a crazy man who stalked women in hotels, but he worked hard in practice and showed up for team meetings on time.

[Charles Romes]

We will be in good shape vis-à-vis the Bengals as long as Burrow is the GM. 

[JP51]

59 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

We will be in good shape vis-à-vis the Bengals as long as Burrow is the GM. 

Love it if the "mole" was in charge LOL 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

He hasn’t come out and said it but he has done it once, ever. With Stef.

 

Even Hyde and Poyer who were criminally underpaid had to wait for contract years to get extended. Micah was getting all-pro hype making $6M AAV until 2021. Poyer was making half that until 2020. 

 

If you think that doesn’t represent a clear way of doing business in general that Beane deviated from in the case of Diggs, more power to you. I strongly disagree. 
 

IMO it was a clear attempt to keep Diggs happy with WR contracts exploding. And when you pay and play with fire with a volatile WR you get burned. 
 

Ultimately, I stand by my point it is the singular worst move of Beane’s tenure. A gigantic extension that said player didn’t play a single snap on. It honestly doesn’t get much worse than that. 

He's never stated that though and would it surprise you if he extended Josh Allen more than one year before his deal is up?  In Diggs's case I remember he was laughably underpaid for what WR's were making at the time when the market exploded with big time WR contracts (Hill, Adams, AJ Brown).  There wasn't a clue even on here that he wasn't fully committed to the Bills and I'm sure he fooled pretty much everyone in that locker room.  I remember the only worry about the contract was about if Diggs could maintain that level of play as he got more into his early 30's but that was mostly dismissed because his style of play would last longer than other WR's.  There was no worry about him going full diva like he did though.  It was in hindsight a bad move by Beane but it was certainly defendable/praised at the time.

[FireChans]

47 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

He's never stated that though and would it surprise you if he extended Josh Allen more than one year before his deal is up?  In Diggs's case I remember he was laughably underpaid for what WR's were making at the time when the market exploded with big time WR contracts (Hill, Adams, AJ Brown).  There wasn't a clue even on here that he wasn't fully committed to the Bills and I'm sure he fooled pretty much everyone in that locker room.  I remember the only worry about the contract was about if Diggs could maintain that level of play as he got more into his early 30's but that was mostly dismissed because his style of play would last longer than other WR's.  There was no worry about him going full diva like he did though.  It was in hindsight a bad move by Beane but it was certainly defendable/praised at the time.

He extended Josh after picking up his fifth year option. He was extended going  into year 4 of his original 4 year deal. 
 

Even if you want to paint that as the ONLY other time Beane has done that, Josh was coming off an MVP caliber year, 13 wins and a conference championship game. And he’s a QB.

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

He extended Josh after picking up his fifth year option. He was extended going  into year 4 of his original 4 year deal. 
 

Even if you want to paint that as the ONLY other time Beane has done that, Josh was coming off an MVP caliber year, 13 wins and a conference championship game. And he’s a QB.

I was speaking more hypothetically for Josh's next contract.  Not his last one as it was obvious extending him as soon as they could would be the best long term financial move.  I just don't think it's one of Beane's "rules" that he'd never extend a player more than a year before their current contract expired.  Most NFL contracts are usually done via being free agents or having one year left on their current deal.  Not specific to Beane.

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I was speaking more hypothetically for Josh's next contract.  Not his last one as it was obvious extending him as soon as they could would be the best long term financial move.  I just don't think it's one of Beane's "rules" that he'd never extend a player more than a year before their current contract expired.  Most NFL contracts are usually done via being free agents or having one year left on their current deal.  Not specific to Beane.

I never said it was specific to only Beane. That’s just the way he has done business as a rule with one notable exception. And that exception was a total disaster. Which supports his normal business practices.
 

You are very caught up on if he came out and said “my rule is X”. You know you can have regular business practices and exceptions to them without announcing them through the media, right?

 

Would it surprise you if Micah’s agent asked Bean for a pay raise/contract extension after 2019 and he said “we don’t do extensions prior to the final year of the current one?” It wouldn’t surprise me. It would actually be pretty smart. I actually do think that was something like that was reported somewhere tbh. 

[Doc Brown]

21 hours ago, FireChans said:

The biggest problem was the Beane broke his own rule, and gave Diggs money 2 years before he was up. And as anyone with any second of leadership experience will tell you, the second you start making exceptions is the second things blow up in your face.

 

9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

You are very caught up on if he came out and said “my rule is X”. You know you can have regular business practices and exceptions to them without announcing them through the media, right?

You're the one who specifically said Beane broke his own rule and then gave a lecture on leadership because he broke it. 

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

 

You're the one who specifically said Beane broke his own rule and then gave a lecture on leadership because he broke it. 

Okay

 

”Beane deviated from his normal business practice and paid for it.”

 

Happy?

[Doc Brown]

Just now, FireChans said:

Okay

 

”Beane deviated from his normal business practice and paid for it.”

 

Happy?

Apathetic really.