Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 01:24 AM Posted Saturday at 01:24 AM On 3/4/2025 at 4:06 PM, Homelander said: If Homelander is not a bot then he is the dumbest person on this site, to believe this is something that is new you must be mentally stunted. 4
4th&long Posted Saturday at 06:49 PM Posted Saturday at 06:49 PM Commerce Sect'y Howard Lutnick If You Don't Get Your Social Security Check, Shut the F*** Up!!! https://flip.it/aJ5bze To bad this guy wasn't at work on 9/11. The country would be better off.
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 08:07 PM Posted Saturday at 08:07 PM (edited) 18 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: If Homelander is not a bot then he is the dumbest person on this site, to believe this is something that is new you must be mentally stunted. “Hold my beer” -4th Edited Saturday at 08:07 PM by JDHillFan 2
Niagara Bill Posted Saturday at 11:07 PM Posted Saturday at 11:07 PM On 3/20/2025 at 1:42 PM, SectionC3 said: Maybe they think their based is so brainwashed and stupid that it doesn’t matter. The question I have is why threaten Social Security benefits. One would think if this fraud that they speak of is so pervasive and massive they’d be able to prove it and quantify it. But so far nothing of the sort. I wonder if it’s just Trump letting Musk run wild because Trump doesn’t care and was interesting largely in the trappings of the job, staying out of prison, exacting revenge, and nothing else. Chaos must precede the cancelation of voting Nov 26... 1
Westside Posted Sunday at 02:31 PM Posted Sunday at 02:31 PM On 3/21/2025 at 5:25 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: I’m guessing you’ll be affected more than me but perhaps neither of us will be. Millions could be Why even threaten this? To show us all who has almost boundless power. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-admin-threatens-stop-social-041848651.html Well you would have guessed wrong. lol. As usual. No one is going to cut SS. You’re just fear mongers. You should be ashamed of yourself!
SectionC3 Posted Sunday at 10:39 PM Posted Sunday at 10:39 PM On 3/21/2025 at 9:24 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: If Homelander is not a bot then he is the dumbest person on this site, to believe this is something that is new you must be mentally stunted. Hoax. 8 hours ago, Westside said: Well you would have guessed wrong. lol. As usual. No one is going to cut SS. You’re just fear mongers. You should be ashamed of yourself! Define cut.
B-Man Posted Sunday at 10:58 PM Posted Sunday at 10:58 PM 14 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Define cut. cut /kət/ verb 1.make an opening, incision, or wound in (something) with a sharp-edged tool or object. Similar: gash, slash, lacerate, slit, pierce, penetrate, wound, injure, scratch 2.divide into pieces with a knife or other sharp implement. Similar: chop, cut up, slice, dice, cube, mince, carve, divide Meanwhile, the waste and fraud ever present at the Social Security Administration will be "cut" , while the checks to Americans will NOT be Clear ? . 1
SectionC3 Posted Sunday at 11:59 PM Posted Sunday at 11:59 PM 56 minutes ago, B-Man said: cut /kət/ verb 1.make an opening, incision, or wound in (something) with a sharp-edged tool or object. Similar: gash, slash, lacerate, slit, pierce, penetrate, wound, injure, scratch 2.divide into pieces with a knife or other sharp implement. Similar: chop, cut up, slice, dice, cube, mince, carve, divide Meanwhile, the waste and fraud ever present at the Social Security Administration will be "cut" , while the checks to Americans will NOT be Clear ? . So freezing benefits for future years will not constitute a cut? (Arguably it is a cut if social security doesn’t keep up with the cost of living, but let’s not make it too complicated.). Simple mathematics indicate that “freeze” is where it’s heading. MAGA is going to learn the hard way the difference between “diminution” or “freeze” and “cut.”
JDHillFan Posted Monday at 12:05 AM Posted Monday at 12:05 AM To democrats, any reduction in the amount of spending increases, is considered a spending cut. It’s been this way with them forever. 4
Orlando Buffalo Posted Monday at 01:21 AM Posted Monday at 01:21 AM 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. Good point I forgot you were here and believe it is new also.
SectionC3 Posted Monday at 02:57 AM Posted Monday at 02:57 AM 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: To democrats, any reduction in the amount of spending increases, is considered a spending cut. It’s been this way with them forever. Let’s see how social security recipients feel about your sleight of hand. Tax cuts for rich folks so you can freeze social security for poor folks. 1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Good point I forgot you were here and believe it is new also. I don’t think even you know what that means. And you say that you’re the smartest teacher in Florida. Must be a veritable sea of morons down there if that’s remotely close to true.
JDHillFan Posted Monday at 03:29 AM Posted Monday at 03:29 AM 31 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: 2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I don’t think even you know what that means. And you say that you’re the smartest teacher in Florida. Must be a veritable sea of morons down there if that’s remotely close to true. On 2/14/2025 at 9:06 PM, SectionC3 said: Looks like we have another internet tough guy here. I bet you get all the chicks telling them about how tough you are on the internet and all of the owning of the lives that you do. Attitudes like that are why guys like you make their living on late night scrap and jelly rollers. You’re so tough!
reddogblitz Posted Monday at 03:35 AM Posted Monday at 03:35 AM (edited) On 3/20/2025 at 6:35 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: Anyone remember punch card decks used for computer programming? Those SS systems are so old they're probably still using them. But don't change or modernize anything to some level of technology commonly used in the 21st century because it might risk interrupting the antiquated systems and processes used at the agency. I remember punch cards. I learned how to program in COBOL and Assembly Language on a mainframe in the late 1970s. After a couple of years they removed the punch card machines and went to terminals using line editors. Full screen editors weren't a thing yet. The best graffiti in the men's room in the computer center was "COBOL programmers have bigger decks". Do you know why? A lot of people run parts of their business on older software and platforms because it's expensive to rewrite your large application to do the same thing on the latest a greatest platforms if it's working. SS has never missed a payment so evidently it is working. Not saying improvements couldn't be made and I'm sure there has been but it's not as easy as many think it is. I'm gonna call BS on the punch card thing unless evidence can be provided to the contrary. Edited Monday at 07:09 AM by reddogblitz 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted Monday at 11:56 AM Posted Monday at 11:56 AM (edited) 8 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I remember punch cards. I learned how to program in COBOL and Assembly Language on a mainframe in the late 1970s. After a couple of years they removed the punch card machines and went to terminals using line editors. Full screen editors weren't a thing yet. The best graffiti in the men's room in the computer center was "COBOL programmers have bigger decks". Do you know why? A lot of people run parts of their business on older software and platforms because it's expensive to rewrite your large application to do the same thing on the latest a greatest platforms if it's working. SS has never missed a payment so evidently it is working. Not saying improvements couldn't be made and I'm sure there has been but it's not as easy as many think it is. I'm gonna call BS on the punch card thing unless evidence can be provided to the contrary. The punch card reference was merely an example of outdated technology. Whether these government systems rely on that or not, its a given they have a lot of outdated technology and processes. The core of Social Security is member/customer information and payment processes. There are lots of current technologies that support those functions. Right off the shelf with possibility some configuration or custom code for specific use cases. And while transforming an organizations business process and supporting technologies can be difficult, and costly, it is necessary at times and can result in the gain of efficiency, cost reduction, and an increase in maintainability. I see it more of a replacement than a re-write. The other thing to keep in mind is the technical staff. While these COBOL systems still function you're not going to find many IT professionals, with the exception of some older workers, that are eager to spend their lives working with outdated technologies. Younger workers want to work on current technologies and cutting edge stuff. I don't blame them. My company had a program about 2014-2015 where they hired around 200 college grads for practical training to do all sorts of systems work. It was mostly successful. But the grads assigned to COBOL and other outdated work quit and went elsewhere for fresh opportunities as soon as their bonus retention restrictions expired. Edited Monday at 11:56 AM by All_Pro_Bills
Tenhigh Posted Monday at 12:00 PM Posted Monday at 12:00 PM 9 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Let’s see how social security recipients feel about your sleight of hand. Tax cuts for rich folks so you can freeze social security for poor folks. I don’t think even you know what that means. And you say that you’re the smartest teacher in Florida. Must be a veritable sea of morons down there if that’s remotely close to true. You do understand that SS needs attention though, right? It's not sustainable in its current form. We as a country need to look at real solutions instead of just scaring seniors to vote one way or the other. 1
SectionC3 Posted Monday at 12:29 PM Posted Monday at 12:29 PM 24 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: You do understand that SS needs attention though, right? It's not sustainable in its current form. We as a country need to look at real solutions instead of just scaring seniors to vote one way or the other. No disagreement there. But the promise was "no cuts." Unless one prints money or there is a massive inflow of funds dedicated to Social Security, that doesn't happen without a freeze. This is not partisan, it's reality: the Trump math doesn't work. COL will rise with tariffs (and is already rising now). IRS income is going to be way down. Tariffs will not come close to making up the difference. The federal budget is way out of whack. Trump tax cuts for the rich are likely to be continued by this Congress. The massive fraud and waste of which MAGA complains isn't materializing, and therefore is highly unlikely to realize the savings Trump needs to keep his promises. So what's the solution? Social Security freeze, asking states to contribute more to Medicaid/Medicare, and more borrowing. Unless, of course, MAGA raises the top tax rates on rich folks and raises corporate taxes. Which it would seem populists would want to do, but their leader (a rich guy, allegedly, himself) seems to have different ideas. So, in the end, the little guy is getting sold a bill of goods once again, all while distracted by trannies and insults and UFO/JFK conspiracies.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Monday at 02:18 PM Posted Monday at 02:18 PM 11 hours ago, SectionC3 said: I don’t think even you know what that means. And you say that you’re the smartest teacher in Florida. Must be a veritable sea of morons down there if that’s remotely close to true. I made a big assumption in that you knew why I was mocking @Homelander, but apparently you just like typing hoax. BTW this state is #1 in education so your comments just show your ignorance again. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education 1
SectionC3 Posted Monday at 03:11 PM Posted Monday at 03:11 PM 51 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I made a big assumption in that you knew why I was mocking @Homelander, but apparently you just like typing hoax. BTW this state is #1 in education so your comments just show your ignorance again. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education All that says to me is that it's far less likely that you are getting this award of which you speak.
Tenhigh Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Posted Monday at 03:54 PM 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: No disagreement there. But the promise was "no cuts." Unless one prints money or there is a massive inflow of funds dedicated to Social Security, that doesn't happen without a freeze. This is not partisan, it's reality: the Trump math doesn't work. COL will rise with tariffs (and is already rising now). IRS income is going to be way down. Tariffs will not come close to making up the difference. The federal budget is way out of whack. Trump tax cuts for the rich are likely to be continued by this Congress. The massive fraud and waste of which MAGA complains isn't materializing, and therefore is highly unlikely to realize the savings Trump needs to keep his promises. So what's the solution? Social Security freeze, asking states to contribute more to Medicaid/Medicare, and more borrowing. Unless, of course, MAGA raises the top tax rates on rich folks and raises corporate taxes. Which it would seem populists would want to do, but their leader (a rich guy, allegedly, himself) seems to have different ideas. So, in the end, the little guy is getting sold a bill of goods once again, all while distracted by trannies and insults and UFO/JFK conspiracies. On that I think Trump is full of it, but I have yet to see a politician who's math works on SS. There is no viable path to fiscally sound footing that doesn't involve belt tightening somewhere, and all of these delta bravos need to stop pretending otherwise. My bet is that long term it gets addressed by raising the cap and implementing means testing.
SectionC3 Posted Monday at 04:06 PM Posted Monday at 04:06 PM 6 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: On that I think Trump is full of it, but I have yet to see a politician who's math works on SS. There is no viable path to fiscally sound footing that doesn't involve belt tightening somewhere, and all of these delta bravos need to stop pretending otherwise. My bet is that long term it gets addressed by raising the cap and implementing means testing. I don't have a problem with the means testing. I think it's generally a good idea, so long as the floor/ceiling is very high, and there's an on-ramp for people who experience need later in life (think post-divorce, or post-medical event, etc.). I also completely agree on the belt tightening. There is a debt bomb hanging around out there, and we cannot continue to spend at wartime levels given the current tax structure. That again leads to an issue. Trump/MAGA cut the highest marginal tax bracket. The rich folks got fat, and the little guys like us got the scraps. The options really are to keep the current tax structure and gut the stuff that a lot of America--including and specifically MAGA--depend on, avoid the gutting by significantly raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations, or, in my view, find some sort of middle ground where belts are modestly tightened in other areas (I'm not against federal job cuts, but totally against the way it's being done), top marginal tax rates are raised, and the tax code is better enforced (a Biden approach that in my view was a smart one).
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