wide receivers

[clearwater cadet]

I thought colemen was a 2nd rounder

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said:

I thought colemen was a 2nd rounder

Some will never let facts obscure opinions, right?

[The Jokeman]

11 hours ago, Gugny said:

One WR1 on that list. Diggs. And he wasn’t a WR1 anymore by the time he left. 
 

One wide receiver who could be a WR1 in any NFL team. 
 

In seven years. 
 

Beane has done some great things. 
 

Addressing the WR position has certainly not been one of them. 

It just shows we don't value WR as other positions and considering we've been a top flight offense without one it feels like a wise move. As I'm in the camp that we'd be better served with a better defense as things stand by. As it's always been my thought it's far easier to win by preventing the other team from scoring than out scoring the other team. 

[YoloinOhio]

22 hours ago, NewEra said:

Great thread bro!!!  
 

not

When the thread title is in all lower case I open it like this 

 

[Magox]

22 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

what are we going to do? imo....drafting wr in 1st round is an admission we screwed up with coleman pick. should have taken ladd. ladd and shakir would have been dynamic. so we have mack...multidimensional guy. i like him. samuels...meh, but kind of stuck with him.  cooooop....great locker room guy. i am confused on where we go from here. 

I wouldn’t view it that way, even though I am adamantly opposed at chasing top end WR’s via FA specially when the defense has 4 pretty big holes to address, I am definitely open to drafting a WR with a first round pick.   If the WR hits you get tremendous value and it is a position of need.

 

Coleman I believe will be a good WR in this league but he’s not the deep ball specialist that I believe the team lacks.   
 

 

22 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

OMG.  Taking WR round 1 this year is not an admission about anything related to Coleman.  Shakir and McConkey play the same position.  And so on…

McConkey is multidimensional, he can line up anywhere on the WR spectrum and excel.    Is he better suited inside? Sure, but so are a lot of high end WR’s in the league.  Make no mistake, if Ladd had been drafted by the Bills he would have added more value to the team than any other WR that was available by the time the Bills had their 1st round pick.

 

This is not to denigrate Coleman, I like him and he will be a net plus for this team moving forward.    It’s more of a pro Ladd post and that those that pigeon hole him as “just a slot guy” are flat out wrong.

[Pete]

12 hours ago, clearwater cadet said:

I thought colemen was a 2nd rounder

First selection day 2.  Every team resets their draft board after the first round.  So Beane had coveted draft spot, and most likely turned down many trade offers, ignored them all, and drafted Keon

Edited Monday at 03:21 PM by Pete

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

It just shows we don't value WR as other positions and considering we've been a top flight offense without one it feels like a wise move. As I'm in the camp that we'd be better served with a better defense as things stand by. As it's always been my thought it's far easier to win by preventing the other team from scoring than out scoring the other team. 

I won’t disagree that we need a better defense (and, in fairness, the injury bug was not Beane’s fault). 
 

However … when you have a top 2-3 QB … get him a true WR1.
 

[Einstein's Dog]

23 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

what are we going to do? imo....drafting wr in 1st round is an admission we screwed up with coleman pick. 

What are we going to do?  Get a WR! 

The draft is for the future, drafting another WR would be a great move for the future but I doubt it will be done in the first round.

 

As for the veteran WR the Bills get, a lot depends on how much investment is put in the DE (Garrett or Crosby).

1.  DK Metcalf - what a fit!  But would cost draft and money - unlikely if draft and money is used of for DE

just money

2.  C Kupp - minimal draft capital required (if any if they wait) but has a large salary/cap (almost $30M which is why the Rams are unloading).

3.  D Adams - need to make sure he could handle the anticipated reduced role - he did seem able to split headlines w Wilson at the Jets

4.  A Cooper - not ideal, but they claimed he played hurt.  The offense was pretty good, respectable culture fit and can accept distribution limitations.

5.  D Slayton - fills a speed role, should come cheaper.

6.  Hollywood Brown - cheap role filling player

 

 

[Magox]

2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

What are we going to do?  Get a WR! 

The draft is for the future, drafting another WR would be a great move for the future but I doubt it will be done in the first round.

 

As for the veteran WR the Bills get, a lot depends on how much investment is put in the DE (Garrett or Crosby).

1.  DK Metcalf - what a fit!  But would cost draft and money - unlikely if draft and money is used of for DE

just money

2.  C Kupp - minimal draft capital required (if any if they wait) but has a large salary/cap (almost $30M which is why the Rams are unloading).

3.  D Adams - need to make sure he could handle the anticipated reduced role - he did seem able to split headlines w Wilson at the Jets

4.  A Cooper - not ideal, but they claimed he played hurt.  The offense was pretty good, respectable culture fit and can accept distribution limitations.

5.  D Slayton - fills a speed role, should come cheaper.

6.  Hollywood Brown - cheap role filling player

 

 

I go with Hollywood Brown or Palmer from San Diego and draft one with one of your first 3 picks

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Allen just had his most efficient season ever without having a WR he must force feed to keep happy.

 

Im being completely honest. I don’t know if Allen even needs a top WR. 

[Magox]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Allen just had his most efficient season ever without having a WR he must force feed to keep happy.

 

Im being completely honest. I don’t know if Allen even needs a top WR. 

 

He doesn't, that's clear.  He just needs a collection of good, competent guys who can each fulfill their roles.     This has been proven throughout recent history a number of times with the Chiefs and Patriots and I think Allen is right there with those guys.

[The Jokeman]

33 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Allen just had his most efficient season ever without having a WR he must force feed to keep happy.

 

Im being completely honest. I don’t know if Allen even needs a top WR. 

He doesn't but he does need a playmaker that he can pass to,  Shakir at times showed he has it, Coleman at times showed it too. We also need Kincaid to play as he did as a rookie too. I'm all for adding to the WR room but like you think need more of a depth guy vs a top flight guy.  IF we can't bring back Cooper at a low salary I truly believe Darius Slayton a perfect compliment to what we have and be a solid addition at a low cost to give us an outside guy with speed that we currently lack. Also think it important to bring Hollins back too. 

Edited Monday at 05:11 PM by The Jokeman

[YoloinOhio]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

I wouldn’t view it that way, even though I am adamantly opposed at chasing top end WR’s via FA specially when the defense has 4 pretty big holes to address, I am definitely open to drafting a WR with a first round pick.   If the WR hits you get tremendous value and it is a position of need.

 

Coleman I believe will be a good WR in this league but he’s not the deep ball specialist that I believe the team lacks.   
 

 

McConkey is multidimensional, he can line up anywhere on the WR spectrum and excel.    Is he better suited inside? Sure, but so are a lot of high end WR’s in the league.  Make no mistake, if Ladd had been drafted by the Bills he would have added more value to the team than any other WR that was available by the time the Bills had their 1st round pick.

 

This is not to denigrate Coleman, I like him and he will be a net plus for this team moving forward.    It’s more of a pro Ladd post and that those that pigeon hole him as “just a slot guy” are flat out wrong.

It’s going to happen to Egbuka and shouldn’t. Only reason he was inside a lot is bc of the WRs he was playing with/ same thing happened to JSN

[Magox]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s going to happen to Egbuka and shouldn’t. Only reason he was inside a lot is bc of the WRs he was playing with/ same thing happened to JSN

 

And the reason why many called Ladd "Just a slot guy" was because he's 5'11 and white.   But you're right on Egbuka, I see it on Social media and I'm thinking to myself, that dude is going to play well no matter where he lines up.   He's multidimensional and I think he has a shot at becoming a really top player in the NFL.   I wouldn't be surprised that whoever drafts him will initially line him up heavily in the slot and as his game progresses to utilize him more often at the boundary.  Which is what I expect we'll see from Ladd in 2025.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

20 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

And the reason why many called Ladd "Just a slot guy" was because he's 5'11 and white.   But you're right on Egbuka, I see it on Social media and I'm thinking to myself, that dude is going to play well no matter where he lines up.   He's multidimensional and I think he has a shot at becoming a really top player in the NFL.   I wouldn't be surprised that whoever drafts him will initially line him up heavily in the slot and as his game progresses to utilize him more often at the boundary.  Which is what I expect we'll see from Ladd in 2025.

 

 

Yes here is the breakdown of targets. I’m sure on most other college team he’s primarily on the perimeter 

 

 

[Ben]

Coleman needs to improve no doubt but considering the injury he wasn't bad. There's plenty of reason to be optimistic on his future.

[frostbitmic]

Bills top 5 WR for 2025

 

1. Hollywood - Haven't you heard that Josh wants to throw to Hollywood ?

2. Shakir - Catches everything, great RAC Receiver

3. Coleman - He'll improve this year even if it's baby steps

4. Hollins - Infectious personality, great in the locker room, on the sidelines and on the field, I'd re-sign him.

5. Samuel - He's a good Receiver if he can stay healthy.

 

It's likely they have a 6th WR on the roster and a day 2 or 3 WR is on the radar to compete with Shavers and any other FAs they end up signing.

[NewEra]

On 3/2/2025 at 9:07 AM, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

If people are waiting for the Bills to select a WR in the first round, I'm afraid that they will be disappointed.  The defense is in major need of talent.  With holes at DT, DE, CB, and Safety; the first three picks will likely be used there.  If Beane can fill a couple of these holes with a FA, then a day two value pick for a WR may happen.

If golden is there and certain DL are gone, I could see him being the pick.  Then going DL.

 

but we won’t be using this pick.  Cleveland will.  🙏🏻 

[MrEpsYtown]

I’d offer sheet KeVontae Turpin. 2nd round tender…I’d give a 2 for that dude all day. Speed and so dynamic. 

[BigAl2526]

I like Hollis and I hope Buffalo can retain him.  I'm ambivalent regarding Amari Cooper.  If he is willing to sign a modest contract, sure, but I think he's probably looking for a bigger deal.  I think the Bills hope Keon Coleman has a significant bump in production in2025 and will man one spot as a starting outside receiver, but that means the other spot is wide open.  Hollis is not going to be a starter.  Depending on how the first round plays out I could easily see Buffalo drafting a WR.  After the top ten picks or so, mock drafts are all over the place on where players might be drafted.   Kenneth Grant might be available at #30 or he might be drafted in the middle of the round.  It's the same with Mike Green or any one of the two or three CBs mentioned in the first round.  Safeties too: Starks or Emmanwori could be available or might not be. At WR, I've seen Matthew Golden and even Luther Burden mocked to the Bills, so almost anything is possible.  I'm pretty sure Buffalo's first round pick (if the don't trade it away) won't be a RB, QB, TE, OL, PK, P or LB.  Any other position is fair game.