Bills rumored to be interested in Edge Rusher Preston Smith (per Tony Pauline - Sportskeeda)

[FireChans]

38 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

The narrative that Beane has been reluctant to make moves is simply untrue because Beane has given up multiple draft picks to make a move.  He's also traded players to get picks that he then used to move up more .  How do you think he acquired Josh Allen?  I believe he may have given up one or more picks to acquire Tremaine Edmund in that same draft.  He also gave up multiple picks, including the 2021 Bills' first rounder, to get Diggs in 2020.

 

You and several other posters who seem to hate on Beane have selective amnesia when it comes to Beane's work as Bills GM.  Acquiring Josh Allen was the greatest coup in Bills history, and probably among best in NFL history.   NFL history is littered with examples of big armed college QBs taken in the first round who crashed and burned in the NFL, including many with far more polish than Allen when he was drafted.   Maybe the reason that Beane hasn't taken any more big swings in the draft is that there hasn't been a player he believes is worth doing so.  It may also be that the Bills haven't been able to find trade partners.  Nobody outside of the Bills FO know that.

 

 

Selective amnesia or trading up for Josh Allen 7 years ago doesn’t continue to hold weight when it comes to aggressively pursuing talent.

 

”How can you say Bill Belichick is a bad drafter, he got Brady in the 6th round 20 years ago” energy.

Edited yesterday at 12:41 AM by FireChans

[BillsFanForever19]

6 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Then you better hope Beane finds that in the draft. Something he hasn't done much of. 

 

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You do know it's not easy to hit on Blue Chippers when you're consistently picking in the mid 20's to 30, right? If they're "blue chip" - they're off the board by the time we pick. It takes a lot of luck to turn a basically 2nd Round Pick into a blue chipper at the NFL level.

 

[The Jokeman]

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-insider-s-notes-justin-fields-steelers-future-mekhi-becton-s-free-agency-dolphins-draft-plans

 

Wouldn't be a huge move like Garrett and maybe more of a replacement for Von Miller than a definitive starter. Smith was a 2nd Round Pick in 2015 and has recorded 70.5 sacks throughout his career. He had 25.5 sacks from 2021-2023 before being traded from Green Bay to Pittsburgh at the deadline last season.

I'm guessing connecting dots to Jason Rebrovich with his ties to Smith. Is he an improvement on Miller? I'd say yes and likely not a break the bank guy. I don't mind him but would want to still add more.

[Goin Breakdown]

Ok so sticking with the 1 year deal at the end of your career kinda guys

[Jrb1979]

@BillsFanForever19 yes it's much harder to find that elite talent later in the draft. Somehow other teams manage. IMO why Beane doesn't find those players is due to putting a heavy focus on culture and scheme fit over talent.

[BillsFanForever19]

25 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

@BillsFanForever19 yes it's much harder to find that elite talent later in the draft. Somehow other teams manage. IMO why Beane doesn't find those players is due to putting a heavy focus on culture and scheme fit over talent.

 

Later in the Draft? Have you met James Cook, Khalil Shakir, Christian Benford, Spencer Brown, Terrel Bernard, and O'Cyrus Torrence? Not to mention Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano coming here a couple weeks before he arrived. And Tremaine Edmunds in Round 1, who went on to sign a 72m contract with the Bears. Greg Rousseau has exceeded where he was picked. Ed Oliver is not nearly the failure this board makes him out to be (truly feel that Jones being completely washed this year played into his being neutralized with double teams).

 

Yes, Elam was a miss. Yes, Kincaid had a disappointing Sophomore season. But this idea that this regime is terrible at Drafting is overblown. Josh Allen or not, we wouldn't be consistently competing if we didn't have hits. And every team has misses - that's the nature of the Draft.

[todd]

I’m interested in Jennifer Anniston. Still. 
 

That statement has as much value as the bills being interested in an end-of-career player. Both aren’t gonna happen, although I think Jennifer would find me mildly interesting. 

[Jrb1979]

58 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Later in the Draft? Have you met James Cook, Khalil Shakir, Christian Benford, Spencer Brown, Terrel Bernard, and O'Cyrus Torrence? Not to mention Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano coming here a couple weeks before he arrived. And Tremaine Edmunds in Round 1, who went on to sign a 72m contract with the Bears. Greg Rousseau has exceeded where he was picked. Ed Oliver is not nearly the failure this board makes him out to be (truly feel that Jones being completely washed this year played into his being neutralized with double teams).

 

Yes, Elam was a miss. Yes, Kincaid had a disappointing Sophomore season. But this idea that this regime is terrible at Drafting is overblown. Josh Allen or not, we wouldn't be consistently competing if we didn't have hits. And every team has misses - that's the nature of the Draft.

I'm not saying any of those guys are horrible or that Beane is bad a drafting. All those guys are very good players. I'm saying that he hasn't hit on many game breakers. IMO it's due to how they draft. 

 

I have said it before, they will take a project that is hardworking over a projected blue chipper if he has ego issues.  

[ColoradoBills]

[Bookie Man]

Give me Preston Brown instead.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Old Brandon Beane picking through the garbage bin again. 

[nedboy7]

My dog found a tennis ball on the trail today.  

[Richard Noggin]

6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Maxx Crosby doesn't seem to be a real possibility. He's gone from doing some cryptic stuff last season to saying he's never been more optimistic about the Raiders since adding Pete Carroll:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/maxx-crosby-ive-had-doubts-in-past-but-this-is-the-most-optimistic-ive-been-about-raiders

 

The Owner doesn't want to move him and the GM has never seemed interested in moving him and spoke of him being a Raider for a long time at the Combine:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/john-spytek-i-envision-maxx-crosby-being-a-raider-for-a-long-time-here

 

One must be willing to at least entertain the idea that such positive social media messaging shifts are strategic, intended to both improve leverage for the GM trying to offload a disgruntled fan favorite AND to deflect blame away from the player in question. No way for me to independently assess any of these narratives, but it's wise to maintain a pragmatic cynicism until proven otherwise. 

 

5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You do know it's not easy to hit on Blue Chippers when you're consistently picking in the mid 20's to 30, right? If they're "blue chip" - they're off the board by the time we pick. It takes a lot of luck to turn a basically 2nd Round Pick into a blue chipper at the NFL level.

 

Some franchises, like the Steelers and Packers and Ravens, have successfully let the back halves of many drafts fall into their laps. Beane hasn't let the board come to him a few times already, nor have his moves up AND down in the 1st/2nd rounds been decisive/independently motivated and definitively successful. 

 

[JaCrispy]

8 hours ago, gobilz said:

Bargain bin 

Comp pick, baby 👍

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said:

One must be willing to at least entertain the idea that such positive social media messaging shifts are strategic, intended to both improve leverage for the GM trying to offload a disgruntled fan favorite AND to deflect blame away from the player in question. No way for me to independently assess any of these narratives, but it's wise to maintain a pragmatic cynicism until proven otherwise. 

 

In some situations, I hear what you're saying. But since we were only talking about Crosby in particular - I've never seen a player say "ya know, I wanted out but I don't think I do anymore" as part of the game of being traded. I don't understand the advantage of that kind of rouse. And as a fan favorite player, I wouldn't think the GM would want the fans thinking "yeah, Maxx wanted to be here - but I wanted him gone". I don't see the advantage of it either way.

[Richard Noggin]

19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

In some situations, I hear what you're saying. But since we were only talking about Crosby in particular - I've never seen a player say "ya know, I wanted out but I don't think I do anymore" as part of the game of being traded. I don't understand the advantage of that kind of rouse. And as a fan favorite player, I wouldn't think the GM would want the fans thinking "yeah, Maxx wanted to be here - but I wanted him gone". I don't see the advantage of it either way.

 

The bolded is definitely reasonable, but my thinking was more that Crosby's messaging helps the Raiders maintain the illusion of leverage in trade talks while also saving face for the player and team if no move is made.

[Pete]

I wanted the Bills to draft Preston way back when

[BobbyC81]

12 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

Maybe it's time the used picks to trade up and get one of the top ones in the draft 

Beane does it just about in every draft.  I can just see it on Embedded again.   He likes someone, is hyper, panics and moves up to pick a guy they think will be a good pass rusher.  Meanwhile, the experts like Kierlien on NFL.COM say the player could be a good backup but doesn’t have the quickness or frame to be a good pass rusher in the NFL.

 

Rinse, repeat.  As some of our fellow board members like to point out, the only first round draftee by Beane that was a major hit is our MVP Josh Allen.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-insider-s-notes-justin-fields-steelers-future-mekhi-becton-s-free-agency-dolphins-draft-plans

 

Wouldn't be a huge move like Garrett and maybe more of a replacement for Von Miller than a definitive starter. Smith was a 2nd Round Pick in 2015 and has recorded 70.5 sacks throughout his career. He had 25.5 sacks from 2021-2023 before being traded from Green Bay to Pittsburgh at the deadline last season.

Beane being Beane. This is a Leonard Floyd type move. People are going to hate and he’s older, but Preston Smith is a solid move if they get him on the cheap. A great rotational pass rusher who I think could put up 8-10 sacks. From what I’ve read, he is very solid against the run as well. This move also wouldn’t warrant out a trade for Garret/Crosby either. 

[Milano]

15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-insider-s-notes-justin-fields-steelers-future-mekhi-becton-s-free-agency-dolphins-draft-plans

 

Wouldn't be a huge move like Garrett and maybe more of a replacement for Von Miller than a definitive starter. Smith was a 2nd Round Pick in 2015 and has recorded 70.5 sacks throughout his career. He had 25.5 sacks from 2021-2023 before being traded from Green Bay to Pittsburgh at the deadline last season.

NO.