Bills rumored to be interested in Edge Rusher Preston Smith (per Tony Pauline - Sportskeeda)

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

So basically the same thing that has failed repeatedly … got it 🤔

 

We may not have the option to do something big. Garrett seems to be in a stalemate that won't end anytime soon. Crobsy doesn't appear to be actually available. Bosa may or may not be released. Hendrickson wants to be paid or traded, but the GM doesn't seem interested (https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/duke-tobin-weighs-in-on-possibility-of-bengals-trading-trey-hendrickson-01jn4p98zq6h).

 

The only known available players that could be obtained that would be a bigger move is Eagles DE Josh Sweat (if he isn't franchised tagged) and Khalil Mack.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

We may not have the option to do something big. Garrett seems to be in a stalemate that won't end anytime soon. Crobsy doesn't appear to be actually available. Bosa may or may not be released. Hendrickson wants to be paid or traded, but the GM doesn't seem interested (https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/duke-tobin-weighs-in-on-possibility-of-bengals-trading-trey-hendrickson-01jn4p98zq6h).

 

The only known available players that could be obtained that would be a bigger move is Eagles DE Josh Sweat (if he isn't franchised tagged) and Khalil Mack.

Yeah, I get it. A lot of the names that get fans excited usually don’t become available. Beaner really needs a blue chip hit …

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Yeah, I get it. A lot of the names that get fans excited usually don’t become available. Beaner really needs a blue chip hit …

Maybe it's time the used picks to trade up and get one of the top ones in the draft 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Maybe it's time the used picks to trade up and get one of the top ones in the draft 

 

The problem is that even if you put together a package that works on the Trade Value chart - teams high up on the Draft board *VERY* rarely want to move all the way down to 30.

[FireChans]

Lmao Brandon “a year too late” Beane will strike again.

 

will this dude ever get a guy to who would be a great addition on schedule instead of after the fact?

[Brandon]

31 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Preston Smith? Really? This class is deep at DL, I don’t understand..

 

Beane always signs three or four inexpensive veterans to give himself options going into the draft.

[wppete]

22 minutes ago, BlueRed said:

I think I’d rather just keep Smoot for a second year

Yea i agree. Id keep Smoot. 

[Jrb1979]

@SoTier why the eye roll? It's true, there is a big part of the fanbase that doesn't want to mortgage the future. I'm not saying Beane won't make moves, but he's been reluctant to give up multiple draft picks to make a move.  

[BillsFanForever19]

15 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

@SoTier why the eye roll? It's true, there is a big part of the fanbase that doesn't want to mortgage the future. I'm not saying Beane won't make moves, but he's been reluctant to give up multiple draft picks to make a move.  

 

I don't want to speak for them, but my feeling is that it's bc those types of moves don't happen often league wide. There's this idea that "well if you offer up x amount of picks, you can just get anybody". And that's not the case. 

 

For example, for all the noise that Myles Garrett made, the Browns have said they're not trading him under any circumstances and thus far reportedly have turned away people who have called. Just because you want a big trade doesn't mean a big trade can be done. It takes two teams to do that, not just Beane. And knocking him for moves that you perceive he could have made without knowing if he actually could have is kind of an eyerolling situation.

Edited Saturday at 10:32 PM by BillsFanForever19

[Jrb1979]

8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I don't want to speak for them, but my feeling is that it's bc those types of moves don't happen often league wide. There's this idea that "well if you offer up x amount of picks, you can just get anybody". And that's not the case. 

 

For example, for all the noise that Myles Garrett made, the Browns have said they're not trading him under any circumstances and thus far reportedly have turned away people who have called. Just because you want a big trade doesn't mean a big trade can be done. 

I'm not just talking trading picks. I'm also talking about spending big in FA as well. Use void years and restructures and go after multiple top tier guys. 

 

I'm of the opinion next season is next season and worry about then. I'm not a fan of being competitive every season and hope to catch lightening in a bottle. 

I think with how close they were why not mortgage the future with picks or cap space and give the team the playmakers it needs. 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

I'm not just talking trading picks. I'm also talking about spending big in FA as well. Use void years and restructures and go after multiple top tier guys. 

 

I'm of the opinion next season is next season and worry about then. I'm not a fan of being competitive every season and hope to catch lightening in a bottle. 

I think with how close they were why not mortgage the future with picks or cap space and give the team the playmakers it needs. 

 

We've already done that, financially speaking. That's why we're in the position we're in. We started last year 54m over the cap. We're starting this year 10+m over the cap. There's only so much we can "mortgage the future with" when it comes to playmakers. You can lower a cap hit in Year 1 by pushing it down the road. But the big ticket items will still carry a decent sized cap hit in Year 1 even with most of it pushed down the road.

[streetkings01]

1 hour ago, Victory Formation said:

Preston Smith? Really? This class is deep at DL, I don’t understand..

Yea because it’s reported that Smith is the only move we’ll be making 🙄

 

People love to overreact!

[Kirby Jackson]

He’s washed. If he’s cheap, I’m cool with him as a rotational piece like Smoot. This isn’t in place of Garrett though.

[TheBeaneBandit]

1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Yeah, I get it. A lot of the names that get fans excited usually don’t become available. Beaner really needs a blue chip hit …

Like his first since Allen???

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Like his first since Allen???

 

You do know it's not easy to hit on Blue Chippers when you're consistently picking in the mid 20's to 30, right? If they're "blue chip" - they're off the board by the time we pick. It takes a lot of luck to turn a basically 2nd Round Pick into a blue chipper at the NFL level.

Edited yesterday at 12:24 AM by BillsFanForever19

[Simon]

10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You do know it's not easy to hit on Blue Chippers when you're consistently picking in the mid 20's to 30, right? If they're "blue chip" - they're off the board by the time we pick. It takes a lot of luck to turn a basically 2nd Round Pick into a blue chipper.

 

Goddammit, I'm sick of excuses!

[SoTier]

17 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

@SoTier why the eye roll? It's true, there is a big part of the fanbase that doesn't want to mortgage the future. I'm not saying Beane won't make moves, but he's been reluctant to give up multiple draft picks to make a move.  

 

The narrative that Beane has been reluctant to make moves is simply untrue because Beane has given up multiple draft picks to make a move.  He's also traded players to get picks that he then used to move up more .  How do you think he acquired Josh Allen?  I believe he may have given up one or more picks to acquire Tremaine Edmund in that same draft.  He also gave up multiple picks, including the 2021 Bills' first rounder, to get Diggs in 2020.

 

You and several other posters who seem to hate on Beane have selective amnesia when it comes to Beane's work as Bills GM.  Acquiring Josh Allen was the greatest coup in Bills history, and probably among best in NFL history.   NFL history is littered with examples of big armed college QBs taken in the first round who crashed and burned in the NFL, including many with far more polish than Allen when he was drafted.   Maybe the reason that Beane hasn't taken any more big swings in the draft is that there hasn't been a player he believes is worth doing so.  It may also be that the Bills haven't been able to find trade partners.  Nobody outside of the Bills FO know that.

 

 

[Jrb1979]

14 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

The narrative that Beane has been reluctant to make moves is simply untrue because Beane has given up multiple draft picks to make a move.  He's also traded players to get picks that he then used to move up more .  How do you think he acquired Josh Allen?  I believe he may have given up one or more picks to acquire Tremaine Edmund in that same draft.  He also gave up multiple picks, including the 2021 Bills' first rounder, to get Diggs in 2020.

 

You and several other posters who seem to hate on Beane have selective amnesia when it comes to Beane's work as Bills GM.  Acquiring Josh Allen was the greatest coup in Bills history, and probably among best in NFL history.   NFL history is littered with examples of big armed college QBs taken in the first round who crashed and burned in the NFL, including many with far more polish than Allen when he was drafted.   Maybe the reason that Beane hasn't taken any more big swings in the draft is that there hasn't been a player he believes is worth doing so.  It may also be that the Bills haven't been able to find trade partners.  Nobody outside of the Bills FO know that.

 

 

It's not just trading of picks, outside of Diggs and Miller, he really hasn't gone big in FA either. Mostly mid tier guys to fill holes.  While it keeps them competitive every season, it takes bottled lightening and a lot of luck to win a Super Bowl. 

 

I would sign Holland at Safety, 

Osa Odighizuwa at Defensive End

D.J. Reed for CB

 

If you're worried about cap space restructure guys and add void years. Worry about cap space when you get there. I'm of the opinion that winning a Super Bowl this season is worth going back to the drought era. 

[BillsFanForever19]

2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

It's not just trading of picks, outside of Diggs and Miller, he really hasn't gone big in FA either. Mostly mid tier guys to fill holes.  While it keeps them competitive every season, it takes bottled lightening and a lot of luck to win a Super Bowl. 

 

I would sign Holland at Safety, 

Osa Odighizuwa at Defensive End

D.J. Reed for CB

 

If you're worried about cap space restructure guys and add void years. Worry about cap space when you get there. I'm of the opinion that winning a Super Bowl this season is worth going back to the drought era. 

 

We're 10+m over the cap. You're talking about signing 3 of the Top 10 Free Agents available. You act like that's something that other GM's pull off. When do you ever see that?

 

Osa Odighizuwa is a DT, not a DE. And he's expected to cost 90+m by himself - https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article300983019.html

 

Even with restructures, void years, and lowering the hit in Year 1 - we're still paying a big cap hit in Year 1 for each. It's not realistic.

[Jrb1979]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

We're 10+m over the cap. You're talking about signing 3 of the Top 10 Free Agents available. You act like that's something that other GM's pull off. When do you ever see that?

 

Osa Odighizuwa is a DT, not a DE. And he's expected to cost 90+m by himself - https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article300983019.html

 

Even with restructures, void years, and lowering the hit in Year 1 - we're still paying a big cap hit in Year 1 for each. It's not realistic.

Then you better hope Beane finds that in the draft. Something he hasn't done much of.