UPDATE: DK Metcalf requests trade to a contender

[YoloinOhio]

I’m sure this has been mentioned but college teammate of Dawson Knox, correct?

 

I will not sign off on this trade until I see his rendition of Mr brightside 

[BillsSbSoon]

10 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Add DK to this offense as is we would be ridiculous.  
 

Instantly the best O in the league. 
 

I think there is a significantly better chance of landing DK than Garrett.  
 

 

With these guys, it’s ultimately their call.  

 

He has to want to come to Buffalo.  
 

This is why keeping Von around as a  

recruiter is a big deal.  There are no other names on this team outside of Allen with the pull and influence he has.   

I Mean yeah I guess but von isn’t the von of old anymore so I’m not sure how much his recruiting has pull now. The biggest recruiter for dk would be Josh Allen. 

[Process]

A 1 and a 3 is definitely a no. I'd do a 2 and a 4. 

[Magox]

4 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I think you may have missed the earlier tweet where it was rumored to be a 3rd.  This seems to be the other side.

 

The Bills should be heavily involved for DK.  He has the speed, and is a boundary WR, that the Bills need.  He offers size.  Has a great attitude.  Has not been a target hog so should be able to handle games where the ball goes elsewhere.  Getting him now gives Josh 3-4 years continuity with a WR - which is better than the revolving veteran thing.

 

Do it Beane!

I don’t believe so unless you saw something different than I did.  What was rumored was that some team offered at least a third rounder, not what Josina is hearing which is the team is wanting a 1st and a 3rd with an expected $30m AAV deal to go along with it.

 

Both from the trade comp which is outrageous to the contact extension expectation that is out of whack with what his value is relative to other WR’s in the league, that is a big gap that would need to shrink.

 

No thanks, onto the next

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

A 1 and a 3 is definitely a no. I'd do a 2 and a 4. 

And then on top of that tie up $30M AAV in a new contract? No thanks. 

[Bills!Win!]

Hey look everyone, it’s the annual OBJ and Hopkins thread 

[Kirby Jackson]

25 minutes ago, finn said:

Even then you're saddled with a second huge contract on offense, limiting what you can do on defense. 

 

Allen is a monster on offense, lifting the entire platform all by himself like Atlas. He doesn't need another superstar to win games, as we saw last season. He just needs a defense that can do its part, or at least not go belly up every week. No, Beane needs to throw pretty much every last resource into defense to make up for his meh draft record and McDermott's meh coaching. With ten picks and plenty of cash, maybe he'll hit somewhere, like the proverbial blind man. 

 

Fun to dream about a Metcalf-type bombshell, but the result would be like one of those weight lifters with a huge upper body and stick legs. 

How has Allen having to do it all by himself worked out? The thought would be, a player like DK would turbocharge Allen and shoulder some of that load. If the Bills are going to win it’s BECAUSE of Josh Allen. Giving him other dudes and not just guys would open the floodgates. That’s the thought.

 

Everybody eats is fun and cute. It scored a lot of points. The offense really took a leap forward once Cooper came aboard. His stats aside, the offensive stats all took a massive jump. The threat on the boundary and down the field unlocked the running game and underneath passing game. DK would do that and then some. It’s a MASSIVE need. Significantly bigger need than 2nd corner or a run stuffer. I’d argue elite pass rusher is first but boundary WR is 1A.

 

That price for DK is more than he’s worth. I’m still In the camp of exhaust all opportunities for Garrett. He’s still, by far, the best player “available.” If Cleveland holds firm, Metcalf should be prioritized over Holland or DJ Reed or whomever else is out there. Metcalf isn’t a perfect player but is a perfect fit for the Bills.

[TheBeaneBandit]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

How has Allen having to do it all by himself worked out? The thought would be, a player like DK would turbocharge Allen and shoulder some of that load. If the Bills are going to win it’s BECAUSE of Josh Allen. Giving him other dudes and not just guys would open the floodgates. That’s the thought.

 

Everybody eats is fun and cute. It scored a lot of points. The offense really took a leap forward once Cooper came aboard. His stats aside, the offensive stats all took a massive jump. The threat on the boundary and down the field unlocked the running game and underneath passing game. DK would do that and then some. It’s a MASSIVE need. Significantly bigger need than 2nd corner or a run stuffer. I’d argue elite pass rusher is first but boundary WR is 1A.

 

That price for DK is more than he’s worth. I’m still In the camp of exhaust all opportunities for Garrett. He’s still, by far, the best player “available.” If Cleveland holds firm, Metcalf should be prioritized over Holland or DJ Reed or whomever else is out there. Metcalf isn’t a perfect player but is a perfect fit for the Bills.

You said it all man.  Metcalf would enhance the entire offense and we could very easily still upgrade 3 to 4 positions on defense between free agency and the draft.

[The Jokeman]

8 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

You said it all man.  Metcalf would enhance the entire offense and we could very easily still upgrade 3 to 4 positions on defense between free agency and the draft.

With what picks? Two low end 2nds likely get us marginal rookie production and adding Metcalf takes away a significant amount of cap room to preventing us signing other guys. I understand the appeal but until we fix the defense this team is likely not going to go any further in the playoffs. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

With what picks? Two low end 2nds likely get us marginal rookie production and adding Metcalf takes away a significant amount of cap room to preventing us signing other guys. I understand the appeal but until we fix the defense this team is likely not going to go any further in the playoffs. 

You can still sign 2 solid starting players on defense even with adding Metcalf, I promise you. Then there's the draft. Not a complete overhaul but definitely significant improvement.

[Einstein's Dog]

25 minutes ago, Magox said:

I don’t believe so unless you saw something different than I did.  What was rumored was that some team offered at least a third rounder, not what Josina is hearing which is the team is wanting a 1st and a 3rd with an expected $30m AAV deal to go along with it.

 

Both from the trade comp which is outrageous to the contact extension expectation that is out of whack with what his value is relative to other WR’s in the league, that is a big gap that would need to shrink.

 

No thanks, onto the next

What better WR can you get for 2025?  D Adams is old and a diva, C Kirk is a slot-like duplicate, C Godwin was hurt, C Kupp is old and often hurt.  DK is in his prime, is fast, and as a bonus is big and a work out warrior.

 

And forget just WR - look at all big moves.  Garrett is complicated - read Barleys explanations, it is a long shot to happen, Crosby is gone, Higgins franchised.  DK looks available.

 

A DK contract around $30M is not outrageous.  Top WRs already near $40M at that is before Chase resets the market.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 2/28/2025 at 12:13 PM, Sweats said:

Well, if we couldn't keep Cooper involved in our O, how would Metcalf even play out?!?

I like Cooper and I feel like he’s been getting unfair treatment here, but Metcalf is twice the player. I think he’s better than a prime Diggs as well. Allen and DKM would be lethal. Two absolute athletic freaks. Metcalf can stretch the field as well. He can pretty much do anything and line up anywhere. Extremely durable as well, missing only 3 games in 6 seasons. He’s been grossly underused in Seattle and obviously he realizes that as well.
 

Geno Smith an admirable comeback story and is a great “bridge” QB, but he has no business being a franchise QB. With Josh Allen, Metcalf would be getting 1400+ 10+ TDs every year. If Buffalo can’t land a top pass rusher then they need to match whatever Green Bay may be offering.
 

The NFCN is a lot more competitive than the AFCE. If he’s interested in going to a contender, Buffalo is the better landing spot if he truly wants to compete for a title. 

[Andrew Son]

5 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I like Cooper and I feel like he’s been getting unfair treatment here, but Metcalf is twice the player. I think he’s better than a prime Diggs as well. Allen and DKM would be lethal. Two absolute athletic freaks. Metcalf can stretch the field as well. He can pretty much do anything and line up anywhere. Extremely durable as well, missing only 3 games in 6 seasons. He’s been grossly underused in Seattle and obviously he realizes that as well.
 

Geno Smith an admirable comeback story and is a great “bridge” QB, but he has no business being a franchise QB. With Josh Allen, Metcalf would be getting 1400+ 10+ TDs every year. If Buffalo can’t land a top pass rusher then they need to match whatever Green Bay may be offering.
 

The NFCN is a lot more competitive than the AFCE. If he’s interested in going to a contender, Buffalo is the better landing spot if he truly wants to compete for a title. 

Not sure I agree.  DK is an elite one trick pony.  And that one trick is not something Josh is even good at.  
 

we certainly need outside speed.  But it’s probably not smart giving up multiple draft assets PLUS a big salary for a one dimensional deep threat to pair with a poor deep ball thrower 

[Bills aPHILLYate]

10 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 

Lets also be realistic.  It's our defense that cost us the last two years in the playoffs.  Allocating our limited resources there makes infinitely more sense then spending wastefully on a luxury WR.  

 

PS: Beane just investment 15 mill per season in Shakir, is still on the hook for Samuel and has Hollins to re-sign.  I doubt he drops another big contract at WR given our other needs.

 

This counterpoint (while understandable) basically continues to move the goal post though. It instead needs to be absorbed into the mindset of what was already established. 

 

Going into '24 we jettisoned both our #1 & #2 WRs while taking some dead cap medicine immediately. The logic was that it would be a soft reset to gear up for this year offensively. 

 

We undoubtedly needed to get a prospect (most wanted at least 2) and we would look to add a FA weapon this year. Nobody anticipated to depend on Shakir, a hopeful ascension of Kincaid and a rookie. 

 

Yes last years offense worked exceptionally well but we still need upper echelon weapons aside from Josh who is a generational qb and makes any offense hum.

 

The defense has had steady investment (25 picks since we acquired Josh, 11 in the last 3 years + FA acquisitions).

We spent half of last years draft on it to address the same issues we've always had with it.

 

We are long overdue on making sure Josh has what he needs. We essentially only gave him Diggs and a handful of hope. Supply him with the top tier weapons when available while retooling the defense (even though the scheme is primarily the issue).

 

 

[Einstein's Dog]

10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

How does the team "have Cook play out his contract" (emphasis mine) when it's not exactly up to the team? Or are you just listing hopeful outcomes that would help the offense be the same/better in 2025? 

 

I don't really think Cook would hold out an entire season (or even many/any regular season games) without a new deal, but I do get the sense he'd either hold out or even hold IN for all of training camp and pre-season. Strikes me as a guy focused solely on maximizing his one big NFL contract (and difficult to fault him for that, if we remove our fandom of the Bills and football in general from the equation and just see it from his perspective). 

When I say "have Cook play out his contract" I mean the FO does not cave in to Cook's desire to rework his contract for $15M money.  I want the FO to stick to the philosophy of not paying big money to the RB and if Cook refuses to play they would have the backup plan of R Davis/Ty/ and rookie.

 

I would like to see the cap allocation of money go into a top tier WR like was done in the past with Diggs, now it should be DK.

[sunshynman]

46 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Hey look everyone, it’s the annual OBJ and Hopkins thread 

We can still grab Hopkins!

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

That’s a lot but not out of the question for a player of his caliber.

 

They aren't getting a 1st and a 3rd, this is just standard hardball negotiating through the media. But if I had to part with our 1st I would do it. As usual fans are way overvaluing 1st round draft picks, especially with where we are picking. Other than Allen there isn't one 1st round pick Beane has made that I wouldn't trade for Metcalf. Funny enough the second best use he's made of a 1st round pick was when he traded for Diggs. The time is right to make an identical move.

 

Look at the last two drafts - Addison and BTJ were taken before we had a realistic chance to get them so we had to settle for lesser prospects. Metcalf being available gives us a rare opportunity to not settle. Take the top tier player in his prime and don't look back.

[SCBills]

 

[Dillenger4]

I like DK, but doesn't he have the constant dropsies?

[HappyDays]

31 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

And that one trick is not something Josh is even good at.

 

Are we sure about that? Allen throwing deep to Amari Cooper looked pretty damn good on the few occasions where it happened, and that's an over the hill downfield WR. I've felt for a while that Metcalf is the platonic ideal of a WR that goes well with Allen's skill set and he's still well in his prime.