UPDATE: DK Metcalf requests trade to a contender

[Nephilim17]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

Josh Allen will never be better for the rest of his career than in 2025 … Im fully excepting Beane to make a splash move of this magnitude…if not this specific one …the future is now friend …

A sobering thought (and I'm running out of booze as I type) but very true. A simple yet truthful way to look at where we are with Josh and what the future means.

[Nihilarian]

5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

And now we just have to find a starting CB, a starting 1T DT (to replace Daquan Jones), and a starting Safety (if they aren't comfortbale with Bishop), amongst other important rotational and depth pieces - while having little to no cap space and no pick before basically Round 3.

 

Not to mention the hits both those players will be in Year 2 of their deals when the bigger money starts, greatly compounding our cap space while Christian Benford, Greg Rousseau, Terrel Bernard, James Cook, Connor McGovern, and David Edwards all become Free Agents. And again, we would have no pick before Round 3 to replace anyone with.

 

I could see DK Metcalf happening. I could see Myles Garrett happening. But I cannot see DK Metcalf and Myles Garrett happening. 

This!

 

If Beane finds a way to fill all the defensive needs and get Metcalf, I'm in!

 

Still, to me, the defense has to be the priority this offseason. I dun wanna see DK in a Chiefs uni either though. 

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

A sobering thought (and I'm running out of booze as I type) but very true. A simple yet truthful way to look at where we are with Josh and what the future means.

The clock is ticking 

[L Ron Burgundy]

Gonna be bummed if we don't make a move for one of the elite talents available.   Crazy offseason. 

[That's No Moon]

7 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Gonna be bummed if we don't make a move for one of the elite talents available.   Crazy offseason. 

At some point we should just start drafting the right guys at the top of the draft instead. It's a lot cheaper.  Could have had either Metcalf or McLaurin in that draft (or both). Got Cody Ford and Devin Singletary instead.

[GASabresIUFan]

23 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Hypothetically…Metcalf will not be costing $27mil against the cap in 2025 if he is acquired …it will probably be about  a quarter of that after  the new contract extension  is factored in  and a void year or two if needed ,,,leaving room for other moves to be made …

Pittman was extended for 3 years 70 mill last season.  First year cap hit was 18 mill, followed by 23 mill in 2025.    Metcalf wants even more.  Even if Metcalf comes in year 1 at 18 mill, that basically eliminates over 50% of our possible cap with Hollins and Johnson to re-sign, plus upgrades to DE, DT, CB and S.  The money just doesn't work.

[Aussie Joe]

13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Pittman was extended for 3 years 70 mill last season.  First year cap hit was 18 mill, followed by 23 mill in 2025.    Metcalf wants even more.  Even if Metcalf comes in year 1 at 18 mill, that basically eliminates over 50% of our possible cap with Hollins and Johnson to re-sign, plus upgrades to DE, DT, CB and S.  The money just doesn't work.

Von Miller’s first year at the Bills had a cap hit of $5m…They could get Metcalf around $7mil without too many issues 

Edited 5 hours ago by Aussie Joe

[Warriorspikes51]

This is a great opportunity Beane

 

Allen & Metcalf has infinity as a ceiling

 

for those wanting to instead settle for a Slayton or Hollywood Brown…they’re fine players

 

But DK with Josh will scare defenses and benefit the entire offense.  

[bearstobills]

57 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

At some point we should just start drafting the right guys at the top of the draft instead. It's a lot cheaper.  Could have had either Metcalf or McLaurin in that draft (or both). Got Cody Ford and Devin Singletary instead.

Cherry picking past drafts is silly.  Every single GM passed on both of those guys twice.  I don't see you giving any credit for Shakir in the 5th, Benford in the 6th, Spencer Brown at the end of the third.  I could go on...

[Warriorspikes51]

Metcalf could be our version of Megatron

 

the dark shield visior always wins

[GETTOTHE50]

I’m drafting DK in the first round of all fantasy league with JA in the second if our wish comes true. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Well time to temper expectations

 

Metcalf apparently really does not like the cold

 

may matter, may not

 

then again he did have on a Bills shirt and posted it to IG shortly before the draft! 

Edited 4 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

@Warriorspikes51 Disagree with me all you want, but show me the math how Beane accommodates a new deal for Metcalf while retaining our key internal FAs and finding upgrades at DE, DT, CB and S filling out 12-15 other roster spots.  

 

Right now our cap space is -10 mill according to Spotrac.  The best articles I've seen show a reasonable way for Beane to get to 35 million in cap room.   Show us how you make the money work.

 

Beane at the Combine last week said we were about $4m over the cap currently on his calcs FWIW.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Pittman was extended for 3 years 70 mill last season.  First year cap hit was 18 mill, followed by 23 mill in 2025.    Metcalf wants even more.  Even if Metcalf comes in year 1 at 18 mill, that basically eliminates over 50% of our possible cap with Hollins and Johnson to re-sign, plus upgrades to DE, DT, CB and S.  The money just doesn't work.

We could easily create more than $50m in cap space by simple contract restructures so bringing him in won't be a problem.  We'll still have plenty of cap space for Hollins and Johnson.  I would love to unload Cook for a 2nd rounder but I doubt that happens.  My guess is he'll push for $30m/year on a 4 year extension (4 years, $120m).  Could be 3 years $90m if he wants a 4th bite at the apple.  I think he's worth it but I can definitely see the case for people saying it's too much $ for a player that hasn't been statistically a top 10 WR since he was drafted.

[BillsFanForever19]

6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I read it as….”the Patriots offered a 3rd, but DK doesn’t want to play for them. He wants to play with Josh Allen” 

 

Yeah, I know how you like to read things...

 

I'm just saying, it makes no sense to say it means something for the Bills that Josina Anderson is replying to a Bills reporter - but at the same time, Josina Anderson's actual message to said Bills reporter doesn't mean anything to the Bills.

 

I prefer to think her replying to Jeremy didn't mean anything more than she saw a post she made Quote Tweeted by a media member with a lot of responses and just decided to reply to it - with no other meaning than that.

 

If the former, then she's warning Jeremy that he may not want to come to Buffalo, NY.

 

If the latter, then it's just a generalized statement that has no negative barring on us possibly acquiring him.

Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Pittman was extended for 3 years 70 mill last season.  First year cap hit was 18 mill, followed by 23 mill in 2025.    Metcalf wants even more.  Even if Metcalf comes in year 1 at 18 mill, that basically eliminates over 50% of our possible cap with Hollins and Johnson to re-sign, plus upgrades to DE, DT, CB and S.  The money just doesn't work.

 

If DK is saying he only wants a contender it means he is willing to come in at the lower end of his range (roughly $22-26m AAV) on a new deal. The Bills can absolutely make that work. 

 

Something like: 3 years, $72m, $40m guaranteed. Signing bonus $32m. 

 

2025 salary: $2m (guaranteed)

2025 amortised signing bonus: $6.4m

2025 cap hit: $8.4m

 

2026 salary: $10m (of which $4m guaranteed)

2026 amortised signing bonus: $6.4m 

2026 cap hit: $16.4m

 

2027 salary: $28m (zero guaranteed)

2027 amortised signing bonus: $6.4m

2027 cap hit: $34.4m

 

2028 salary: VOID

2028 amortised signing bonus: $6.4m

2028 cap hit: $6.4m

 

2029 salary: VOID

2029 amortised signing bonus: $6.4m

2029 cap hit: $6.4m

 

 

Those first two years work very easily in our cap the you have a decision after 2026. Cutting him at that point gives you a dead cap hit in 2027 of $19.2m which looks scary but against where the cap is now is really not. The anticipated cap in 2027 via Spotrac is $337m and they have been coming in low on their estimates the past couple of years. Using their estimate that dead cap his would equate to 5.6% of the cap but you could spread the pain over two years as a post 1 June ($6.4m in 2027 and $12.8m).

 

Equally if DK us still performing at a high level in 2026 you could redo his deal at that point. You'd have leverage because he'd have no new guarantees left on the deal. So you'd say "we will give you some guaranteed money up front if you agree to spread some of the salary across 2027 and 2028 turning them into 'real' years on the contract." Teams care about cap numbers. Players care about cash. You might to chuck $5m or so additional in as a sweetener (rather than just guaranteeing money that wasn't guaranteed before) but there is a pretty easy, by NFL standards, negotiation to be done there if DK wants to stay and he is still performing. 

 

Is it a bit of a chips in play? Sure. Does it come without risk? No. But it is something the Bills can definitely do without being completely all or nothing. It is exactly the sort of controlled aggression that I want to see from them this offseason.