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Our 1st for Garret. This 2025 4th, 2026 3rd for Metcalf. Winning the offseason! 

 

Ouch, with Crosby getting $35M a year, I don't see Garrett in reach for the Bills anymore.

 

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1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Find a way to package Coleman or Kincaid as part of a DK Metcalf trade and get them out of here ASAP. 

 

I don’t think Kincaid is that much of a lost cause. He absolutely needs to get stronger though. Because of where he was drafted, and the expectations that were placed upon him, I would hope to get quite a bit in that acquisition if not, he’s still on a rookie contract. 

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Just now, MiltonWaddams said:

I don’t think Kincaid is that much of a lost cause. He absolutely needs to get stronger though. Because of where he was drafted, and the expectations that were placed upon him, I would hope to get quite a bit in that acquisition if not, he’s still on a rookie contract. 

HE just needs to get healthy

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4 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I don’t think Kincaid is that much of a lost cause. He absolutely needs to get stronger though. Because of where he was drafted, and the expectations that were placed upon him, I would hope to get quite a bit in that acquisition if not, he’s still on a rookie contract. 

Problem is two fold - 

 

1. Knox is being paid as a starter and has been capped by Kincaid having to play

 

2. Kincaid has not been the playmaker he was billed - you can find a Tight End to do what he does - and he is a mediocre blocker on top of it. The average Kincaid game over 29-games is 3.5 catches for 38 yards. 

 

 

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Curious what Seattle is willing to take for him. I would imagine they’ll have multiple teams interested. Also curious how critical it is to go to a contender? AKA: Hopkins choosing Tenn

 

Would a 4th and 5th do it? 

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2 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

Curious what Seattle is willing to take for him. I would imagine they’ll have multiple teams interested. Also curious how critical it is to go to a contender? AKA: Hopkins choosing Tenn

 

Would a 4th and 5th do it? 

He's going to have a really good market because there's no more guarenteed mooney left, just the void years for his already paid bonus which stays with Seattle. He's 28 so has a few prime years left so I could see a 3rd rounder (and he'd want the team to extend him)

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36 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

They are going to want Vandy grable and/or Anderson etc. 

that’s an interesting idea.  I wonder how much trade value someone like Grable or VanDemark has…without o-line depth, these guys have, and will continue, to struggle for playing time…

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Just now, BillMafia716ix said:

Metcalf is overrated. I’d prefer Davante Adams over him. 

As an overall #1 or as a field stretching X?

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On 2/28/2025 at 12:32 PM, BuffaloMatt said:

Can he play DT?

Thats what I was thinking... although they were pretty bad most of the year lol

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34 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Metcalf is overrated. I’d prefer Davante Adams over him. 

 

Honestly why not both? Metcalf as the long term extension with an artificially low 2025 cap hit, Adams as the more expensive in 2025 one year stopgap for the #2 role while we wait to see how Coleman develops. Get the WR room set and then go all in on rebuilding the defense in the draft.

 

In Metcalf we're talking about a perennial 1,000 yard WR who has also produced at a high level in the playoffs. If that's overrated what does that say about our current WR room?

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46 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

2. Kincaid has not been the playmaker he was billed - you can find a Tight End to do what he does - and he is a mediocre blocker on top of it. The average Kincaid game over 29-games is 3.5 catches for 38 yards. 

Mike Gesicki was a UFA the year Beane traded up to draft Kincaid. Could’ve just signed him for cheap and used that 1st rounder on another position. Didn’t like trading up for Kincaid then and I still don’t like it now. 

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Priority 1. Garrett 2. Parson 3. Hendrickson 4. Metcalf

 

I would still look at edge first.  1 and 2 seem unlikely.  If i could get Hendrickson I would.  I think the ball should already be in motion.  If no real ground is made I would pivot to Metcalf immediately. 

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2 minutes ago, Brand J said:

Mike Gesicki was a UFA the year Beane traded up to draft Kincaid. Could’ve just signed him for cheap and used that 1st rounder on another position. Didn’t like trading up for Kincaid then and I still don’t like it now. 

 

The Kincaid hate has gone to far. Dalton set records with the Bills as a rookie with Knox on the roster. He had multiple injuries last year setting him back from building on year 1.  TE is a position that often takes a couple of years to fully realize their potential. Many had the same thoughts on Mike Gesicki had much worse struggles his first 5 years before he became a competent partial starter. 

 

Why do we need to give up on Kincaid (or Keon) right away? The staff is challenging them to improve be cause they see them as game changers with some progression. 

 

Back to the Metcalf discussion. The true X role on the outside with speed is a fit. I am not sure it is worth a 2nd? and 30-35 million for multiple years. That type of money should be for a true #1 WR that can do it all inside, outside, and blocking the Jefferson, Chase, even a 25 year old Diggs types. I don't view Metcalf in that group type. 

 

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1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

Curious what Seattle is willing to take for him. I would imagine they’ll have multiple teams interested. Also curious how critical it is to go to a contender? AKA: Hopkins choosing Tenn

 

Would a 4th and 5th do it? 

Here is the problem.

 

There are a LOT of teams looking to upgrade the WR room this year. And there are not a lot of top WRs hitting the market adding to that this is not a great WR draft as in years past. Supply and demand don't match.

 

Which means guys like Dyami Brown are going to get over paid in FA and trades for someone like Metcalf are going to be extra costly.

 

My bet is he ends up in New England. They have been looking aggressively to upgrade that room, they have the cash to upgrade his contract and the picks to get it done. Wouldn't be shocked to see them offer their early 2nd rounder and a bit extra to acquire him.

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Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Here is the problem.

 

There are a LOT of teams looking to upgrade the WR room this year. And there are not a lot of top WRs hitting the market adding to that this is not a great WR draft as in years past. Supply and demand don't match.

 

Which means guys like Dyami Brown are going to get over paid in FA and trades for someone like Metcalf are going to be extra costly.

 

My bet is he ends up in New England. They have been looking aggressively to upgrade that room, they have the cash to upgrade his contract and the picks to get it done. Wouldn't be shocked to see them offer their early 2nd rounder and a bit extra to acquire him.

 

Totally agree that New England is DESPIRATE for a #1 WR to pair with Maye and willing to overspend in draft picks and compensation. Problem is they tried that last year only to have both Ayuik and Ridley turn them down with the largest contracts. Metcalf already leaked his preference is to a contender which I read as a direst message to the Patriots. 

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