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4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

My gut is telling me the ravens get him. Just think they will swing for the fences at receiver for next year. 

OOHHH that's an under the radar i hadn't thought of🤔

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2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

That sounds exactly like Beane.  LOL.  Come on.  Just give them our 1st and we give Allen a bonifide #1 for the next four years.

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24 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

That sounds exactly like Beane.  LOL.  Come on.  Just give them our 1st and we give Allen a bonifide #1 for the next four years.

Hell to the no.  The only way you give the farm, imo, is for Garrett.  Allen can make this offense work with what is there.  The defense sucks and needs a true difference maker.

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I assume the Athletic is making mock trade offers. Still interesting. Doesn’t trading Samuel hurt us $ wise?

 

IF there’s any reality behind those offers

 

Buffalo offered 500k more than KC

 

almost as if Beane told the agent, let us know what the best $ offer is

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If DK can be convinced he’d like to be here and sign an extension

 

then I’m offering a 2nd & 4th

 

it seems like that would be the highest offer and fair

 

if putting Samuel in the deal is needed, fine with me

 

I suppose since no one is willing to do a 1st & 3rd, SEA may have said okay give us a pick and a WR then. They’ll clearly have a big need for WR

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31 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Hell to the no.  The only way you give the farm, imo, is for Garrett.  Allen can make this offense work with what is there.  The defense sucks and needs a true difference maker.

Either position is desperate for a significant upgrade.  We're not even sure if the Browns will shop Garrett at this point.  Whenever you can acquire elite talent at a premium position of need you do it imo.

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3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

You're saying this like it was a mistake to add Diggs.  I disagree and would like them to try again.  And I like the player/person of DK better than Diggs.

 

I would also like them to try and add a big piece to the defense - kind of like the attempt with Von.  That didn't work out so well IMO, but I want the FO to try again - get Garrett or Hendrickson if they can afford it.

That’s completely fair. I don’t think it was a mistake to add Diggs but I just also don’t think making a similar move is gonna be what puts us over the top.

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5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Either position is desperate for a significant upgrade.  We're not even sure if the Browns will shop Garrett at this point.  Whenever you can acquire elite talent at a premium position of need you do it imo.

Ya, I want Garrett as well but I agree with this. It’s probably in the range of 80% we get none of them. If we can get any of them you do whatever it takes.  Happy to go with a 2nd here as well if that closes the deal. 

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10 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


ehh I’d say between now and next weekend

You think the move happens that quick? I was thinking they might hold out until the draft starts to get what they feel is the best deal. We shall see :thumbsup:

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3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Ya, I want Garrett as well but I agree with this. It’s probably in the range of 80% we get none of them. If we can get any of them you do whatever it takes.  Happy to go with a 2nd here as well if that closes the deal. 

2nd this year and a 4th next year.

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6179010/2025/03/06/dk-metcalf-trade-offers-raiders-packers-patriots/
 

“Buffalo Bills

Trade offer: 2026 third-round pick, WR Curtis Samuel for Metcalf and 2026 sixth-round pick

Contract offer: Three years, $85.5 million

Metcalf would be an interesting fit for the Bills because he isn’t the smaller, speedy separator you would think of adding, but he does provide most of what they lacked from the receiver room last year. The Bills need someone who can separate in man-to-man coverage and provide a big-play, deep-field threat to utilize Josh Allen’s big arm properly. In the AFC Championship Game, it was abundantly clear the Bills lacked a target who could stretch the field and attack the intermediate areas. Metcalf would accomplish all of those things.

The biggest challenge would be paying him a higher market deal, especially after Buffalo extended slot receiver Khalil Shakir on a team-friendly deal last week. Metcalf would likely want something near Amon-Ra St. Brown and Brandon Aiyuk, around $30 million, and that could be tough, considering the Bills desperately need an impact edge rusher and have somewhere around $30 million in cap space this offseason.

That’s why the offer is a bit muted. However, if the Bills believe Metcalf is their missing piece, and that they can address the defensive line through the draft, the offer certainly has room for negotiation and improvement. — Joe Buscaglia”

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16 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6179010/2025/03/06/dk-metcalf-trade-offers-raiders-packers-patriots/
 

“Buffalo Bills

Trade offer: 2026 third-round pick, WR Curtis Samuel for Metcalf and 2026 sixth-round pick

Contract offer: Three years, $85.5 million

Metcalf would be an interesting fit for the Bills because he isn’t the smaller, speedy separator you would think of adding, but he does provide most of what they lacked from the receiver room last year. The Bills need someone who can separate in man-to-man coverage and provide a big-play, deep-field threat to utilize Josh Allen’s big arm properly. In the AFC Championship Game, it was abundantly clear the Bills lacked a target who could stretch the field and attack the intermediate areas. Metcalf would accomplish all of those things.

The biggest challenge would be paying him a higher market deal, especially after Buffalo extended slot receiver Khalil Shakir on a team-friendly deal last week. Metcalf would likely want something near Amon-Ra St. Brown and Brandon Aiyuk, around $30 million, and that could be tough, considering the Bills desperately need an impact edge rusher and have somewhere around $30 million in cap space this offseason.

That’s why the offer is a bit muted. However, if the Bills believe Metcalf is their missing piece, and that they can address the defensive line through the draft, the offer certainly has room for negotiation and improvement. — Joe Buscaglia”

That offer seems low, why not a 2025 2nd (the Bills have two)?  And throwing in the overpriced C Samuel should help the financials/cap.

 

I disagree with the idea that the Bills have this big difficulty budgeting in a future (remember they would be trading for his current contract and giving him an extension) $30M, that is very doable now for the Bills IMO.  And the Shakir contract is a normal to smallish WR2 contract for a team.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

That offer seems low, why not a 2025 2nd (the Bills have two)?  And throwing in the overpriced C Samuel should help the financials/cap.

 

I disagree with the idea that the Bills have this big difficulty budgeting in a future (remember they would be trading for his current contract and giving him an extension) $30M, that is very doable now for the Bills IMO.  And the Shakir contract is a normal to smallish WR2 contract for a team.

 

Agreed.  Other teams figure it out.  Beane is going to have to swing for the fences at some point.  Metcalf is worth it

Posted
2 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

Agreed.  Other teams figure it out.  Beane is going to have to swing for the fences at some point.  Metcalf is worth it

I don't even consider it swinging for the fences.  A team can have a high priced QB/LT/WR/DE/CB.  Adding a Garrett or Hendrickson on with DK might be pushing it although I would like to see it (even though that seems unlikely) - maybe add a K Mack or J Bosa.

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On 3/6/2025 at 11:51 AM, BuffaloMatt said:

All I want is Defense Defense Defense. Offense waas scoring 30 points a game. 

"30 points a game", much like the good to great defenses we've had, is a regular season analysis.

 

27 vs the Ravens

29 vs the Chiefs.

 

33 was the magic number for the AFCCG.  Mahomes and Reid continually outcoach opposing DC's, and stacked defenses.  If you forget the recency bias of the SB, Mahomes has won the SB ~50% of his seasons.  It doesn't matter what studs you put out there on defense, theyre going to outscheme you, and limit your defenses star players.

 

Trying to copy Phillys defensive mold would take us throwing everything out, and starting all over again... you can put an All-Pro player at each level of the defense and they'll find a way to scheme that guy out.  We are never outscheming them like that, and we don't have the resources to implement a DL like PHI has, and especially not at the same time as we're filling out the back of our defense to PHI's caliber.  We're miles away.

 

On the offensive side of the ball, we had a chance to put that game away.  Our defense was -- THE OFFENSE.  Control the ball, score at a high clip, and TD's.  The offense got bogged down one too many times.  Chiefs were able to put minimum resources to our outside WR's, and sell out to stop the run, protect middle of field against our TE's/Slot.

 

Adding one bonafide outside threat ( A.Cooper hurt and thrown into the grind mid-season, without TC or a chance to develop chemistry, does not count) into the equation, helps overload Spags' defense and completely alters their defensive gameplan... that game isn't coming down to a 4th and inches (was a 1st on 3rd down anyways).  We're instantly a better balanced team. We sustain more drives, or cap them off with 7's instead of 3's.  Mahomes is forced to play from behind, and unable to make a mistake, or settle for 3. 

 

Bills get to play more loose, take shots deep that hit. Or aren't the end of the world to waste a down on, if the defense cant crowd the line/middle of field.  We can stress a defense with; the run, short throws, medium throws.  There is zero threat deep, or to the outside of the field.

 

TL:DR  1 single player, a legit #1 WR takes the offense over the top.  Its the only position group on offense where we have no true weapon.

              VS

Rebuilding an ENTIRE DL & SECONDARY.

 

^^forget what we've done in the regular season, it doesn't matter.  We had/have a potential 1 player solution to our PLAYOFF problem.  If it's not DK, then package some of our 10(!!! 10 !!!) picks in the draft/trade market to go make it happen.  We have the best QB in the league, and he has 1 WR, who's in the slot

 

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