DK Metcalf requests trade to a contender

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

You have to match the game logs to weather history on Weather Underground.  On 11/30/2020 in Philadelphia he had a big day. But I looked up the weather and it was unseasonably warm that day with temps in the 60's. Other than that, his 100+-yard receiving days came in the early part of the season and in domes. His performance in late-season home games drops off too once it gets cold in Seattle. There is a single outlier; 12/24/2022 in KC, where he had 80 yards in a loss to the chiefs and it was bitter cold that day. But that is really an exception to the rule. 

Fwiw.. shouldn’t this give pause to a team like LAC or HOU in trading for him?

 

If his asthma is truly affecting him like that, can’t hate on the man for it.. but those teams will likely have to play in KC, BUF, BAL etc when it matters..

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

You have to match the game logs to weather history on Weather Underground.  On 11/30/2020 in Philadelphia he had a big day. But I looked up the weather and it was unseasonably warm that day with temps in the 60's. Other than that, his 100+-yard receiving days came in the early part of the season and in domes. His performance in late-season home games drops off too once it gets cold in Seattle. There is a single outlier; 12/24/2022 in KC, where he had 80 yards in a loss to the chiefs and it was bitter cold that day. But that is really an exception to the rule. 

 

So the 200+ yards in the playoff games at Philly and GB in 2020 don't count as cold weather?   And you say his performance declines later in the season(when it gets colder)?  I think you are confusing the fact that inclement weather tends to reduce the passing game in general with the idea that DK is notably more affected than most WR in those conditions.  

 

As Bills fans we regularly watch the team struggle to pass the ball at home in windy, rainy or cold situations and then go on the road to a warm outdoor environment or in a dome the next week and look like a totally different team.   Just saw it in the back to back games versus LA and Detroit this year.   Proved a little tougher to thread those needles in the cold of the playoffs, didn't it?

 

 Ideally, all skill players prefer to play in domes or warm environments.   But that's why you build a winning organization that can draw talent that would otherwise prefer to play in a warmer climate.   

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, DJB said:

Buffalo is warm in the summer 

Sounds perfect for a team with multiple seconds to trade.

 

Please Beane. Don’t be so afraid of how Diggs ended up to do this.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, FireChans said:

Sounds perfect for a team with multiple seconds to trade.

 

Please Beane. Don’t be so afraid of how Diggs ended up to do this.

You’d likely need to convince him to sign an extension to agree to the trade

 

unless we’re comfortable parting with a 2nd potentially for 1 season.  Let him see if he’s OK with the cold after a year?

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

You’d likely need to convince him to sign an extension to agree to the trade

 

unless we’re comfortable parting with a 2nd potentially for 1 season.  Let him see if he’s OK with the cold after a year?

I have no problem extending DK at this stage of the game. 
 

Especially if the choice is to give Amari $18M as an alternative.

 

Worry about cap hits in 2028. Go win.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

26 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

We just can't catch a break with these types of things. Outside of Diggs. Antonio Brown didn't want to come here, Davante Adams wants to play with Rodgers, DHop cared more about money and chose to be traded to the Titans over the Bills to make more money, Myles Garrett decides he'd rather stay for a bad Cleveland team because of money. Now DK Metcalf doesn't want to play in cold weather. It's kinda stupid with some of these players

 

"How about playing with Josh Allen and win a Super Bowl?"

 

High profile players: "Nah, I want warmer weather and more money but good luck to you"

 

Lol. It's a joke

It's a joke they want to make as much as they can while their career lasts?

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I have no problem extending DK at this stage of the game. 
 

Especially if the choice is to give Amari $18M as an alternative.

 

Worry about cap hits in 2028. Go win.

well great….now you need to convince him because of the cold

 

I guess the new stadium being “enclosed” with a heated field could be a sly way of convincing him 

[Buffalo03]

5 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

It's a joke they want to make as much as they can while their career lasts?

We are a superbowl contending team that would benefit from reeling a big fish through trade. And even when we are good, we are still having trouble because of money or weather. I can understand if we were bad like the drought. But if we can't get guys here by trade now because of money or weather or because players wanna play with their friends like Adams, what's it gonna take?

Edited 9 hours ago by Buffalo03

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

well great….now you need to convince him because of the cold

 

I guess the new stadium being “enclosed” with a heated field could be a sly way of convincing him 

Yeah I think a couple extra mill and/or an extra pick will do well to convince them.

[aristocrat]

We send a second and Elam and get back a third? Can beane convince Seattle elam is good? lol probably not. Would like to have a third 

 

someone help me out with a warm weather contender cause I don’t see one. Chargers are the chargers 

[Alphadawg7]

19 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Sounds perfect for a team with multiple seconds to trade.

 

Please Beane. Don’t be so afraid of how Diggs ended up to do this.

Diggs I assure you will have no impact on his decision to trade for DK or not…neither will the 2nd round alleged current asking price.  But the $30M a year and the dislike for cold weather might though.  $30M for a WR not even in the top 10 of his position is pretty high, and one who doesn’t like to play in the cold isn’t helping his case.

 

Im all for landing DK, but looking at the probability of it (assuming what is being reported is accurate) seems less and less likely.  
 

I would love to land him or Hendrickson (although Hendrickson is my first choice), but there are things working against us in both those trades that go beyond just whether Beane is going to attempt to.  
 

I mean with Hendrickson it’s a big question if they even trade him, let alone would they trade him to a perennial top 3 AFC team directly in their path to a SB.  Especially since Burrow wants to keep him…I mean how badly would they piss of Burrow by not only trading him, but helping a major AFC opponent get even better?  
 

So starting to look around the landscape and think that big trade may just not be there to be made with several already signing extensions and the last 2 big ones have aspects that make it seem less probable said players would come here.  

So my focus is now starting to look more heavily at FA and the draft with a small hope we can figure out how to pry away one of these big targets.  

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

We send a second and Elam and get back a third? Can beane convince Seattle elam is good? lol probably not. Would like to have a third 

 

someone help me out with a warm weather contender cause I don’t see one. Chargers are the chargers 

Chargers or Texans. But also notice that Russini (who is getting info from Metcalf's agent most likely) has dropped "contender" from his list of demands. Just 30M and a beach. 

[davefan66]

5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Ideally?

 

So you’re telling me there’s a chance!

 

Git ‘er done BBB!

[Warriorspikes51]

Does anyone know if trading Curtis Samuel to Seattle would free up cap space for us, or is it a negative hit?

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Does anyone know if trading Curtis Samuel to Seattle would free up cap space for us, or is it a negative hit?

Saves us 3.8M but why would they want him?

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Does anyone know if trading Curtis Samuel to Seattle would free up cap space for us, or is it a negative hit?

According to Spotrac, the Bills would save a bunch of cap with a trade and a whole bunch more with a post-6/1 trade. But who really knows.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, FireChans said:

Saves us 3.8M but why would they want him?

Thanks. They have JSN and pretty much nothing else

 

maybe the Athletic’s “mock” offer from us makes sense then

 

It was a 2026 3rd and Samuel for DK  3@85.5 mil

 

offer the 2nd we got from Diggs instead and send it

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Diggs I assure you will have no impact on his decision to trade for DK or not…neither will the 2nd round alleged current asking price.  But the $30M a year and the dislike for cold weather might though.  $30M for a WR not even in the top 10 of his position is pretty high, and one who doesn’t like to play in the cold isn’t helping his case.

 

Im all for landing DK, but looking at the probability of it (assuming what is being reported is accurate) seems less and less likely.  
 

I would love to land him or Hendrickson (although Hendrickson is my first choice), but there are things working against us in both those trades that go beyond just whether Beane is going to attempt to.  
 

I mean with Hendrickson it’s a big question if they even trade him, let alone would they trade him to a perennial top 3 AFC team directly in their path to a SB.  Especially since Burrow wants to keep him…I mean how badly would they piss of Burrow by not only trading him, but helping a major AFC opponent get even better?  
 

So starting to look around the landscape and think that big trade may just not be there to be made with several already signing extensions and the last 2 big ones have aspects that make it seem less probable said players would come here.  

So my focus is now starting to look more heavily at FA and the draft with a small hope we can figure out how to pry away one of these big targets.  

 

I think Hendrickson is off the board for the Bills specifically. 
 

To me, there’s no one in FA I’d rather give $30M to than DK. 
 

I have to believe the LA teams are in the mix which is hard but we have the best QB. Depending on what DK is looking for for contract length, Buffalo may be his best shot to get paid AGAIN 3 years from now.

 

I will be extremely sad if he goes to KC. I’m not sure they can make the financials work but that will actually break me.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Re: warm weather 

It’s warm here until like November or December. Is that good enough for you, muscles?