Roundybout Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 On 3/9/2025 at 12:06 AM, Orlando Buffalo said: No I do not underestimate, I simply feel that the number of private companies that do the same thing are sufficient and feel the federal government should only be working on topics of vital national security. If you feel they do only vital things we can stop arguing because you believe politicians in general are looking out primarily for their constituents. Expand Name one private company that “does the same thing.”
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 1:05 PM, Roundybout said: Name one private company that “does the same thing.” Expand We already went through this, the NWS needs to collect and package the data, but there are several companies that run their own models, such as AccuWeather and the insurance companies. 1
Roundybout Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 2:40 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: We already went through this, the NWS needs to collect and package the data, but there are several companies that run their own models, such as AccuWeather and the insurance companies. Expand So you admit that these companies need the NWS to actually produce their product?
sherpa Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 2:40 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: We already went through this, the NWS needs to collect and package the data, but there are several companies that run their own models, such as AccuWeather and the insurance companies. Expand As do major airlines, who have their own meteorology depts. It is true that rely on basic data from the NWS, but there has never been talk of completely eliminating that organization. Still, they are independent and produce their own product for their consumption. In addition, they operate and are interested on a very limited period of forecasting, and aren't really concerned beyond about 36 hours. 1
JDHillFan Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 2:51 PM, Roundybout said: So you admit that these companies need the NWS to actually produce their product? Expand You have mentioned how the NWS employees are overworked. Can you share any specifics? How many hours does the typical NWS employee work? Do they get comp time or overtime pay? Anything at all?
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 2:51 PM, Roundybout said: So you admit that these companies need the NWS to actually produce their product? Expand I have said that from the beginning, the NWS has a job, a real job, but you were defending them not doing the basic requirements of that job. 1
4th&long Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Fired workers are reinstated at NOAA, creating confusion on the heels of severe storms https://flip.it/4XZiNS I thought we only need like 4 people at noaa? What happens Maga? Another win for doge lol. Waste fraud and abuse? The waste is paying all these people doge laid off to sit home and not work! Fraud? Trump and Musk! Abuse? What they are doing with the power they have. It went straight to their head! Maga? Bunch of *****en idiots for supporting it. 1
JFKjr Posted March 19 Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 10:31 PM, 4th&long said: Fired workers are reinstated at NOAA, creating confusion on the heels of severe storms https://flip.it/4XZiNS I thought we only need like 4 people at noaa? What happens Maga? Another win for doge lol. Waste fraud and abuse? The waste is paying all these people doge laid off to sit home and not work! Fraud? Trump and Musk! Abuse? What they are doing with the power they have. It went straight to their head! Maga? Bunch of *****en idiots for supporting it. Expand 1
4th&long Posted March 19 Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 11:22 PM, JFKjr said: Expand That's all you got? Weak. 1
njbuff Posted March 19 Posted March 19 On 3/19/2025 at 11:28 PM, 4th&long said: That's all you got? Weak. Expand Don’t tell us what your wife says to you on a nightly basis. 1
Roundybout Posted March 19 Author Posted March 19 On 3/10/2025 at 8:15 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: I have said that from the beginning, the NWS has a job, a real job, but you were defending them not doing the basic requirements of that job. Expand When did I do that?
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/19/2025 at 11:55 PM, Roundybout said: When did I do that? Expand In your opinion what is the most vital job that the NWS?
Roundybout Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 1:27 AM, Orlando Buffalo said: In your opinion what is the most vital job that the NWS? Expand The forecasters who must take on a variety of roles.
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 12:08 PM, Roundybout said: The forecasters who must take on a variety of roles. Expand This is apparently where we disagree, the primary vital job of the NWS is to collect the data. As you have pointed out there a lot of companies that take that information and process it in many ways but the NWS is the only organization currently capable of collecting it on such a large scale. Them stating they will not launch weather balloons to collect the data is a breach of their fundamental and most important job.
Roundybout Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 12:15 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: This is apparently where we disagree, the primary vital job of the NWS is to collect the data. As you have pointed out there a lot of companies that take that information and process it in many ways but the NWS is the only organization currently capable of collecting it on such a large scale. Them stating they will not launch weather balloons to collect the data is a breach of their fundamental and most important job. Expand The forecasters do take on the data though. They collect and interpret the data.
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 12:23 PM, Roundybout said: The forecasters do take on the data though. They collect and interpret the data. Expand What data will they use if they stop collecting it? You said they were so understaffed they couldn't fly weather balloons, which is the most basic level of their job, or is the weather balloon information not useful?
JDHillFan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 12:08 PM, Roundybout said: The forecasters who must take on a variety of roles. Expand You’ve mentioned these people are overworked. What you haven’t been willing to provide is any data regarding the claim. Do these poor overworked people get paid overtime? Comp time? If so, is there anything to suggest they are not happy with the arrangement?Any info at all other than “they are overworked”?
Roundybout Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 12:26 PM, Orlando Buffalo said: What data will they use if they stop collecting it? You said they were so understaffed they couldn't fly weather balloons, which is the most basic level of their job, or is the weather balloon information not useful? Expand They’ll have things like their infrared satellites, radar, and basic instruments. But soundings are the best and most accurate way to measure atmospheric instability conductive to storm development. They’ll probably have to rely on other NWS offices’ readings which means that the data will be less accurate for the Albany area. On 3/20/2025 at 12:34 PM, JDHillFan said: You’ve mentioned these people are overworked. What you haven’t been willing to provide is any data regarding the claim. Do these poor overworked people get paid overtime? Comp time? If so, is there anything to suggest they are not happy with the arrangement?Any info at all other than “they are overworked”? Expand You like saving all my posts. Go find the ones where I provided news links.
SectionC3 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/20/2025 at 12:37 PM, Roundybout said: They’ll have things like their infrared satellites, radar, and basic instruments. But soundings are the best and most accurate way to measure atmospheric instability conductive to storm development. They’ll probably have to rely on other NWS offices’ readings which means that the data will be less accurate for the Albany area. You like saving all my posts. Go find the ones where I provided news links. Expand He's got nothing else to do all day. Things get boring in the basement. Especially when the Minecraft servers go down.
Recommended Posts