aristocrat Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM I don’t see how they need more than one person per state, east coast, gulf coast west coast weather and then a handful or more people just roving around helping. If not these people need to learn modern tech and how every other industry is using it to downsize employees but not these morons. I mean my weather report is still wrong half the time so should we be funding them?
Orlando Buffalo Posted Sunday at 01:36 PM Posted Sunday at 01:36 PM 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: Again, so how do you know the number? You are a government employees dream- admitting you are smart enough to know that it doesn't take 1000s to collected automated data. But the information I have, that is readily available to anyone who can Google, is I know how much money and man power the largest insurance companies spend on it. Their concern about weather is equal to the governments concern because their jobs rely on being accurate, vs the government who just opens a new position when the other guy sucks at his job.
T master Posted Sunday at 02:08 PM Posted Sunday at 02:08 PM 21 hours ago, Taro T said: Or, they could transfer some workers from offices that are well/fully/over staffed to some of these critically understaffed offices. Believe it or not, in the private sector people get relocated all the time. You will have a very difficult time convincing us that none of the 300 workers that were laid off weren't underperforming nor superfluous. The private sector has been learning how to do with a lot larger cuts than 2.5% of the workforce. Not to mention the implementation of new tech into these companies, the American automotive industry is full of robots and such that have taken the place of humans that don't need health care, cigarette or lunch breaks & many other things that humans need and I'm sure there are technologies that can be implemented in NOAA . But none of that fits. the "Orange man bad" Narrative !!
Orlando Buffalo Posted Sunday at 02:11 PM Posted Sunday at 02:11 PM 1 minute ago, T master said: Not to mention the implementation of new tech into these companies, the American automotive industry is full of robots and such that have taken the place of humans that don't need health care, cigarette or lunch breaks & many other things that humans need and I'm sure there are technologies that can be implemented in NOAA . But none of that fits. the "Orange man bad" Narrative !! Actually NOAA has done very well by government standards in implementing technology. The problem I assume is they have not trimmed the workforce by the proper amount for the less work. 1
SectionC3 Posted Sunday at 02:34 PM Posted Sunday at 02:34 PM 56 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: You are a government employees dream- admitting you are smart enough to know that it doesn't take 1000s to collected automated data. But the information I have, that is readily available to anyone who can Google, is I know how much money and man power the largest insurance companies spend on it. Their concern about weather is equal to the governments concern because their jobs rely on being accurate, vs the government who just opens a new position when the other guy sucks at his job. Blah blah blah. You don't know the number. You made it up and you're talking out of your rear. As usual. 1
Doc Posted Sunday at 02:47 PM Posted Sunday at 02:47 PM So 300 out of 6,000 workers/5% of the NWS who likely wouldn't return to work and/or were under-performing and/or superfluous will or won't spell the end of it?
Orlando Buffalo Posted Sunday at 03:20 PM Posted Sunday at 03:20 PM 43 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Blah blah blah. You don't know the number. You made it up and you're talking out of your rear. As usual. Wait you are actually trying to argue that since I can't pick an exact number, like 528, that I don't know what I am talking about? You truly are an incompetent person dream. If a private company can do the same thing that the federal department is doing with 10-25% of the people you have too many people.
SectionC3 Posted Sunday at 03:35 PM Posted Sunday at 03:35 PM 14 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Wait you are actually trying to argue that since I can't pick an exact number, like 528, that I don't know what I am talking about? You truly are an incompetent person dream. If a private company can do the same thing that the federal department is doing with 10-25% of the people you have too many people. You just made up a number. Making it up as you go along. As usual, you don’t have a clue what you’re taking about. Lots of people are saying that, too.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Sunday at 03:42 PM Posted Sunday at 03:42 PM 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You just made up a number. Making it up as you go along. As usual, you don’t have a clue what you’re taking about. Lots of people are saying that, too. Yes I just made up a number, it was the point to show how dumb you are. The range as a percent is the number we should be looking at. The fact that y'all discuss me is hilarious, but I am not interested in dating you, I am happily married.
BillsFanNC Posted Sunday at 05:03 PM Posted Sunday at 05:03 PM It's always nice to remember that when dealing with leftists and their thoughts on the great orange menace... All. They. Do. Is. Lie. 1
Roundybout Posted Sunday at 05:13 PM Author Posted Sunday at 05:13 PM 17 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Are you asking me or admitting you have no idea? Please inform me what they do that is useful that insurance companies don't do with teams of less than 200 each? I am asking you. The correct answer is that private companies like Accuweather source all data from the NWS. 10 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: It's always nice to remember that when dealing with leftists and their thoughts on the great orange menace... All. They. Do. Is. Lie. What does this have to do with the weather? 2 hours ago, Doc said: So 300 out of 6,000 workers/5% of the NWS who likely wouldn't return to work and/or were under-performing and/or superfluous will or won't spell the end of it? How do you know ANY of this?
Doc Posted Sunday at 05:32 PM Posted Sunday at 05:32 PM 18 minutes ago, Roundybout said: How do you know ANY of this? You think they just randomly selected 300 people to be fired?
Roundybout Posted Sunday at 05:36 PM Author Posted Sunday at 05:36 PM 3 minutes ago, Doc said: You think they just randomly selected 300 people to be fired? If DOGE is using the same methods that have resulted in the government begging nuclear tech workers and ebola scientists to come back to work, then yes, yes I do.
Doc Posted Sunday at 06:47 PM Posted Sunday at 06:47 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: If DOGE is using the same methods that have resulted in the government begging nuclear tech workers and ebola scientists to come back to work, then yes, yes I do. The question is if those were real reports. They seemed to come and go in an instant. Edited Sunday at 06:52 PM by Doc
Orlando Buffalo Posted Sunday at 07:29 PM Posted Sunday at 07:29 PM 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: I am asking you. The correct answer is that private companies like Accuweather source all data from the NWS. Thank goodness you are hear to tell me what I wrote throughout the thread several times. NWS has a definite job it must do, it does not need 12000 employees. 1
SectionC3 Posted Sunday at 07:37 PM Posted Sunday at 07:37 PM 3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Yes I just made up a number, it was the point to show how dumb you are. The range as a percent is the number we should be looking at. The fact that y'all discuss me is hilarious, but I am not interested in dating you, I am happily married. Yeah sure that’s what it was. Hoax. What you really did was make something up without having a clue what you’re talking about. On brand for you.
Wacka Posted Sunday at 08:06 PM Posted Sunday at 08:06 PM (edited) My friend worked at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, MD. His first job was superimposing the state lines on the photos from the GOES satellites. He said if he screwed up the US was in the middle of the Atlantic. Think they drew them by hand? He later became the director of the office that told the Hubble where to point and other commands. Almost didn't come back to Buffalo for one Christmas because they would be on call during the Hubble Repair Mission. They postponed it a few weeks. Gave me a heads up about 6 months before they released the "Pillars of Creation " photo. They would get the data and send it to another NASA office to get the color pictures (they were made by combining pictures taken with red, green and blue filters). A lot of the people involved in the collection and processing of the NOAA data aren't even in NOAA. Edited Sunday at 08:11 PM by Wacka 1 1
Roundybout Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM Author Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM 3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Thank goodness you are hear to tell me what I wrote throughout the thread several times. NWS has a definite job it must do, it does not need 12000 employees. It does when it’s understaffed to the point where offices cannot perform their duties.
JDHillFan Posted Sunday at 11:53 PM Posted Sunday at 11:53 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: It does when it’s understaffed to the point where offices cannot perform their duties. What duties go undone? Any real world examples of consequences of these duties going undone?
Doc Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: It does when it’s understaffed to the point where offices cannot perform their duties. How do you know ANY of this?
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