Roundybout Posted Saturday at 01:49 AM Author Posted Saturday at 01:49 AM 17 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Has someone suggested that a 5% cut results in only one person available per task? That’s not a specious argument, it’s a dumb one. How many is the right number of employees? Just more? I guess if the Bills and Sabres just had more coaches they could get over their shortcomings. Can’t believe they haven’t thought of that. As stated before, the NWS is already understaffed. More cuts means more work for fewer employees. This will inevitably lead to burnout. Comparing coaching sports to researching tornadoes is a very poor analogy.
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 01:57 AM Posted Saturday at 01:57 AM 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: As stated before, the NWS is already understaffed. More cuts means more work for fewer employees. This will inevitably lead to burnout. Comparing coaching sports to researching tornadoes is a very poor analogy. Agreed. The coaches do not have the benefit of billions of dollars of space technology to assist them. The shat upon government employees will need to work smarter, not harder and do more with less. Kind of like the private sector is generally required to do. That is undoubtedly lost on a government employee that spent a good chunk of his/her/their last two weeks on the internet. There has never been an instance where someone declared “if only we had more NOAA employees, this never would have happened”.
Dablitzkrieg Posted Saturday at 02:49 AM Posted Saturday at 02:49 AM (edited) 6 hours ago, Roundybout said: Weather is a hobby. I’m a SKYWARN spotter and I have a COCORAHS station. Literally nobody cares 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: As stated before, the NWS is already understaffed. More cuts means more work for fewer employees. This will inevitably lead to burnout. Comparing coaching sports to researching tornadoes is a very poor analogy. I suggest YOU go research tornadoes. Hopefully that will lead to less garbage you post. You probably should think before posting. I've read at least 3 from you today that are very distasteful. You should be ashamed 🤣 Edited Saturday at 02:52 AM by Dablitzkrieg 1
Andy1 Posted Saturday at 03:39 AM Posted Saturday at 03:39 AM Interesting points in this thread. AI may be replacing some jobs. Others could be the Musk idiot chainsaw method. At some point agencies do less with less. NOAA provides an incredible amount of important data used by all sectors of society. Farmers, wild land fire fighters, airlines, mariners, states and local communities, scientists, etc. all depend on weather data. All the data and forecasts allow everyone to do their jobs more efficiently. Republicans probably want to replace some of NOAAs fuctions with private sector, pay for the data if you want it.
Doc Brown Posted Saturday at 09:01 AM Posted Saturday at 09:01 AM 14 hours ago, stevestojan said: Im honestly not seeing how this is horrible (other than people losing income, which I sympathize with). That's what sucks about all these federal cuts. Needed or not. I wonder if/what their buyout package is.
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 11:22 AM Author Posted Saturday at 11:22 AM 8 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Literally nobody cares I suggest YOU go research tornadoes. Hopefully that will lead to less garbage you post. You probably should think before posting. I've read at least 3 from you today that are very distasteful. You should be ashamed 🤣 A new challenger has appeared! 9 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Agreed. The coaches do not have the benefit of billions of dollars of space technology to assist them. The shat upon government employees will need to work smarter, not harder and do more with less. Kind of like the private sector is generally required to do. That is undoubtedly lost on a government employee that spent a good chunk of his/her/their last two weeks on the internet. There has never been an instance where someone declared “if only we had more NOAA employees, this never would have happened”. The private sector is expected to turn profit and make shareholder value, public sector is not. Who is going to pick up the research? Do we just give up?
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 11:57 AM Posted Saturday at 11:57 AM 32 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Who is going to pick up the research? Do we just give up? The 5% being let go are undoubtedly all critical technical staff. The remaining 95% will have to run with the ball. There will be zero instances this year where someone utters “if only we had more weather experts”.
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 12:39 PM Author Posted Saturday at 12:39 PM 41 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: The 5% being let go are undoubtedly all critical technical staff. The remaining 95% will have to run with the ball. There will be zero instances this year where someone utters “if only we had more weather experts”. I’ll defeat your theory by saying that myself.
JDHillFan Posted Saturday at 12:41 PM Posted Saturday at 12:41 PM 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: I’ll defeat your theory by saying that myself. No doubt. Overwrought hyperbole is what you do. See the title of this thread for proof.
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 12:42 PM Author Posted Saturday at 12:42 PM Just now, JDHillFan said: No doubt. Overwrought hyperbole is what you do. See the title of this thread for proof. Maybe Elon should have told the leaders what they were actually cutting? “critically” understaffed seems bad but hey, there’s always whips i guess
4th&long Posted Saturday at 12:43 PM Posted Saturday at 12:43 PM 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: No doubt. Overwrought hyperbole is what you do. See the title of this thread for proof. Trump loves commies like you.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 12:57 PM Posted Saturday at 12:57 PM 17 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I’ll defeat your theory by saying that myself. Yesterday in class I had a kid ask me for gum, which I declined stating I did not have enough for everyone, to which he countered no one else would ask. I immediately looked at his two friends in class who stated they want gum also just to mess with him. 15 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Trump loves commies like you. I don't think you know what that word means at all. I am not even sure you know who Trump is at this point.
4th&long Posted Saturday at 01:01 PM Posted Saturday at 01:01 PM 2 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Yesterday in class I had a kid ask me for gum, which I declined stating I did not have enough for everyone, to which he countered no one else would ask. I immediately looked at his two friends in class who stated they want gum also just to mess with him. I don't think you know what that word means at all. I am not even sure you know who Trump is at this point. You're a teacher. Sit down and shut up. No one takes you serious. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 01:05 PM Posted Saturday at 01:05 PM Just now, 4th&long said: You're a teacher. Sit down and shut up. No one takes you serious. Making jokes is what I do when someone calls cutting government jobs, "commie". I feel a little bad I hurt your feelings but your understanding of the word needs work
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 01:09 PM Author Posted Saturday at 01:09 PM 11 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Yesterday in class I had a kid ask me for gum, which I declined stating I did not have enough for everyone, to which he countered no one else would ask. I immediately looked at his two friends in class who stated they want gum also just to mess with him. I don't think you know what that word means at all. I am not even sure you know who Trump is at this point. Kid learned that day who his REAL friends are 1
Wacka Posted Saturday at 01:47 PM Posted Saturday at 01:47 PM He learned "You can't aways get what you want." Our HS had an enormous front lawn (which is now the middle school). I had the hardass English teacher for study hall in 1st period and for senior elective (Mythology) in 3rd. There was a guy in study hall chewing gum. He told him to throw it out the window by saying "Go feed the snowbirds (seagulls). In 3rd period the same guy was also n my class and was chewing gum again. He said to the guy, " What did you do?, wrestle it back from him?" At the beginning of the year, he was telling us about what mythologies we'd cover. He listed Greek, Roman, Norse, Egyptian,etc and ended with Polish. A girl with a Polish last name started laughing. He said " Hey xxxxxxxxski, what to hear a Poish Myth?- you graduating." Still remember these 50 years later.
T master Posted Saturday at 02:16 PM Posted Saturday at 02:16 PM 12000 employees 300 laid off ... not the end just stream lining going forward not unlike Gm, Ford, Chrysler, Google, or other companies but dam that Musk for trimming gov't spending .
nedboy7 Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM Trump will tweet the weather!! Tell us commie overlord! How much snow we getting!! Hope its wrong so we troll the liberals!!
Roundybout Posted Saturday at 02:50 PM Author Posted Saturday at 02:50 PM 33 minutes ago, T master said: 12000 employees 300 laid off ... not the end just stream lining going forward not unlike Gm, Ford, Chrysler, Google, or other companies but dam that Musk for trimming gov't spending . NWS is already understaffed, some offices critically so. They cannot afford cuts.
Taro T Posted Saturday at 04:42 PM Posted Saturday at 04:42 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: NWS is already understaffed, some offices critically so. They cannot afford cuts. Or, they could transfer some workers from offices that are well/fully/over staffed to some of these critically understaffed offices. Believe it or not, in the private sector people get relocated all the time. You will have a very difficult time convincing us that none of the 300 workers that were laid off weren't underperforming nor superfluous. The private sector has been learning how to do with a lot larger cuts than 2.5% of the workforce. 1
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