So much for the National Weather Service

[JFKjr]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

When you consider that there are 122 NWS offices in the U.S., Puerto Rico, and Guam, all operating 24/7, constantly processing data, not to mention long range forecasting, climate analysis, drought monitoring, and other tasks, it’s pretty easy. 
 

This also doesn’t include specialty offices like the Storm Prediction Center. 

 

Turns out you're an expert in all the things.

 

You should volunteer.

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

33 minutes ago, JFKjr said:

 

Turns out you're an expert in all the things.

 

You should volunteer.

 

 

 

Weather is a hobby. I’m a SKYWARN spotter and I have a COCORAHS station.

[ScotSHO]

This is becoming improbable.  I'm lazy - somebody list out all the posters and their supposed fields of specialty.

[Niagara Bill]

Well it makes sense. If FEMA is done, then you need no warning of weather events...

[JDHillFan]

32 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

This is becoming improbable.  I'm lazy - somebody list out all the posters and their supposed fields of specialty.

Frankish and Roundy - everything under the sun

 

4th and Redhawk - none

[IrishLass]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

Well it makes sense. If FEMA is done, then you need no warning of weather events...

 

Spoken like a true bureaucrat.

[JDHillFan]

Has there been a single weather-related calamity that could have been avoided or lessened if only we had enough people working for the National Weather Service? 
 

Rhetorical question. 

[Niagara Bill]

8 minutes ago, IrishLass said:

 

Spoken like a true bureaucrat.

You have no idea....or sense of humor. Proof that extreme left and extreme left are almost identical...

[JDHillFan]

1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said:

You have no idea....or sense of humor. Proof that extreme left and extreme left are almost identical...

Based on your wording I would forget the almost and just go with identical!

[IrishLass]

4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Has there been a single weather-related calamity that could have been avoided or lessened if only we had enough people working for the National Weather Service? 
 

Rhetorical question. 

 

They could've called Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass in Ghana to tell her to "check the status of the reservoirs" because Santa Ana winds would cause an extreme risk of fire situation.

 

   

8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You have no idea....or sense of humor. Proof that extreme left and extreme left are almost identical...

 

[njbuff]

18 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Has there been a single weather-related calamity that could have been avoided or lessened if only we had enough people working for the National Weather Service? 
 

Rhetorical question. 

What are you talking about?

 

A 5% loss is going to kill MILLIONS the next hurricane.

 

You better watch it buddy. 🤣

[Roundybout]

57 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Has there been a single weather-related calamity that could have been avoided or lessened if only we had enough people working for the National Weather Service? 
 

Rhetorical question. 

 

 

The 1990 Plainfield Tornado is a good example. There was basically no warning. More scientists could have developed a better advance warning system. We STILL are not great at predicting tornadoes out of squall lines or bowing segments. 

2 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

This is becoming improbable.  I'm lazy - somebody list out all the posters and their supposed fields of specialty.

 

You people need to get out more. 

Edited Saturday at 12:38 AM by Roundybout

[JDHillFan]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

The 1990 Plainfield Tornado is a good example. There was basically no warning. More scientists could have developed a better advance warning system. We STILL are not great at predicting tornadoes out of squall lines or bowing segments. 

Right. If only there were more weather experts employed by the US government the devastation and death wrought by an absolutely freak tornado could have been abated. We just needed more scientists 35 years ago. 
 

Give me one data point that shows more scientists could have developed a better system. More does not mean better. 

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Right. If only there were more weather experts employed by the US government the devastation and death wrought by an absolutely freak tornado could have been abated. We just needed more scientists 35 years ago. 
 

Give me one data point that shows more scientists could have developed a better system. More does not mean better. 

 

If more people are working on a problem, the more likely it is that the problem will be solved. 

 

More minds at the National Severe Storms Laboratory would certainly help. Seems pretty basic to me. Or, would you prefer we simply give up and not even try?

[JDHillFan]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

If more people are working on a problem, the more likely it is that the problem will be solved. 

 

More minds at the National Severe Storms Laboratory would certainly help. Seems pretty basic to me. Or, would you prefer we simply give up and not even try?

Not more people. The right people. Has nothing to do with quantity. I strongly suspect the agencies tasked with weather forecasting and research will survive the horrific 5% purge and life will go on exactly as it has. 
 

 

[IrishLass]

13 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

If more people are working on a problem, the more likely it is that the problem will be solved. 

 

More minds at the National Severe Storms Laboratory would certainly help. Seems pretty basic to me. Or, would you prefer we simply give up and not even try?

 

Yeah that's the issue. Many of the people in government are NOT "working on a problem."

 

They're passing time.

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

16 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Not more people. The right people. Has nothing to do with quantity. I strongly suspect the agencies tasked with weather forecasting and research will survive the horrific 5% purge and life will go on exactly as it has. 
 

 

 

Even the "right" person gets burned out and exhausted. How about hiring two "right" people? Or four? Or 100?

[IrishLass]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Even the "right" person gets burned out and exhausted. How about hiring two "right" people? Or four? Or 100?

 

Have you sent an email to: Trump? Elon? Your congressional representative?

 

Or are you just "passing time" like lots of people in government jobs?

 

 

 

[JDHillFan]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Even the "right" person gets burned out and exhausted. How about hiring two "right" people? Or four? Or 100?

Has someone suggested that a 5% cut results in only one person available per task? That’s not a specious argument, it’s a dumb one.
 

How many is the right number of employees? Just more?
 

I guess if the Bills and Sabres just had more coaches they could get over their shortcomings. Can’t believe they haven’t thought of that. 

[SectionC3]

6 hours ago, stevestojan said:

I mean at some point cuts have to be made. We’re in an unbelievable amount of debt as a country.
 

“You can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs.”
 

So while those things you mentioned seem like nice to haves, I’m much more concerned about Trump having a screaming match with an allied President while his lapdog VP tells the man he needs to say thank you like he’s talking to a child. 

 

I’m more concerned that he’s literally trying to remove the 14th amendment, and he might actually do it; Disgusting. 
 

He’s using AI to show what a “Trump Gaza” would look like and signing orders about ***** paper straws. 
 

He’s a giant man child, just going along with President Musk’s whims, but this one still doesn’t seem like the worst areas to make some much needed cuts. 
 

We can hate the man. We can hate most of his decisions. We can certainly hate the methods he uses. Etc etc. But we can’t hate every idea/action just because it was his administration. That turns us into “orange man bad” and makes us no better than the righties who call us commies and worse. 
 

Sorry, but some fat needs to be cut. And this one doesn’t seem so off to me. 

I hate to say it, because I think weather forecasts and warnings are hugely important.  But this one struck me as a quintessential AI replacement issue.  I don’t like it, but I can’t say that I’m surprised by it.  Or that I don’t sort of understand it.