JP51 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I am sure we are going to get the same players pretty much... I am interested in where they end up in your rankings... I am also interested in where Kelly and Allen show up in your picks... here are mine Allen Kelly Kemp Ferguson Flutie Bledsoe Fitz Lamonica Tyrod Frank Reich Quote
DasNootz Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, julian said: Came here to say the same. Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 Kelly* 2-10 Allen** * Got to four superbowls ** Ask again when he's retired 1 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: 1 Kelly* 2-10 Allen** * Got to four superbowls ** Ask again when he's retired I get what youre saying. I'd also argue that if Allen had Kelly's defenses he would have WON 4 Super Bowls already. 1 1 1 Quote
transient Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Curious to see where Bruce Mathison and Vince Ferragamo end up on people's lists... 2 Quote
corta765 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Era weighted 1. Kelly - It truly is a shame the kick went wide right and they never finished after. He was an era defining QB and helped change the position. Allen will pass him soon but he had a great run as the standard and gave so many great moments. 2. Allen - He is a SB appearance away from leap frogging Kelly. He has done everything else and has the MVP, just one last breakthrough to finish taking the throne. 3. Kemp - Was a superb QB for the time and won two AFL titles. For the AFL he was one of the two star QBs and they were a game away from playing GB in the first SB 4. Joe Fergy Ferg! - He was a very good QB that happened to be in the 2nd level of QB starters when Bradshaw/Roger/& Tarkenton where thee guys at the time. In todays terms he was a guy like Dak and with todays playoff back then he would have gotten more press. 5. Doug Flutie - The two years he was the true starter 98/99 the team was legit and people had major playoff aspirations. He was very good in 98, 99 lukewarm but the team believed in him and I do believe the 99 team makes some type of run had he started in the Titans game. 6. Tyrod - His play in 2015 was legit good and if Rex didn't destroy the defense they were an 11 win team. Following two years he couldn't match what we hoped but he was still decent and he had a part in killing the drought. Call me sentimental but loved the dude. 7. Bledsoe - First year great, lukewarm following two years performance wise but he still had some moments in those two years 8. Fitz - I still think he gets more hype that reality of what he was, but I will say on a talented roster he makes a playoff 9. Daryl Lamonica - Whoops wish they kept him 10. Kyle Orton - He was serviceable and threw for 300 yds a few times while almost breaking the drought. He also is better then any QB I can think of in the 11 spot. 1 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, corta765 said: Era weighted 1. Kelly - It truly is a shame the kick went wide right and they never finished after. He was an era defining QB and helped change the position. Allen will pass him soon but he had a great run as the standard and gave so many great moments. 2. Allen - He is a SB appearance away from leap frogging Kelly. He has done everything else and has the MVP, just one last breakthrough to finish taking the throne. 3. Kemp - Was a superb QB for the time and won two AFL titles. For the AFL he was one of the two star QBs and they were a game away from playing GB in the first SB 4. Joe Fergy Ferg! - He was a very good QB that happened to be in the 2nd level of QB starters when Bradshaw/Roger/& Tarkenton where thee guys at the time. In todays terms he was a guy like Dak and with todays playoff back then he would have gotten more press. 5. Doug Flutie - The two years he was the true starter 98/99 the team was legit and people had major playoff aspirations. He was very good in 98, 99 lukewarm but the team believed in him and I do believe the 99 team makes some type of run had he started in the Titans game. 6. Tyrod - His play in 2015 was legit good and if Rex didn't destroy the defense they were an 11 win team. Following two years he couldn't match what we hoped but he was still decent and he had a part in killing the drought. Call me sentimental but loved the dude. 7. Bledsoe - First year great, lukewarm following two years performance wise but he still had some moments in those two years 8. Fitz - I still think he gets more hype that reality of what he was, but I will say on a talented roster he makes a playoff 9. Daryl Lamonica - Whoops wish they kept him 10. Kyle Orton - He was serviceable and threw for 300 yds a few times while almost breaking the drought. He also is better then any QB I can think of in the 11 spot. Always wanted to drink bourbon with Orton. 1 Quote
corta765 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Always wanted to drink bourbon with Orton. He by far had a wonderful vibe haha his clothing picks alone were something else. Also the only Bills QB to be assaulted with a laser lol Edited 2 hours ago by corta765 Quote
transient Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Orton being on any list aside from Biggest P***ies to ever play QB for the Bills is suspect. Think of Allen and Kelly and what they wouldn't do to pick up a first down in comparison to his sliding like a little beeotch 3 yds shy of a 1st with open field in front of him... I had nothing but contempt for Uncle Rico from that point forward. 1 1 Quote
oldmanfan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Allen Kelly Kemp Lamonica Ferguson Flutie Fitzpatrick Bledsoe Reich Johnson Quote
Starr Almighty Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, transient said: Orton being on any list aside from Biggest P***ies to ever play QB for the Bills is suspect. Think of Allen and Kelly and what they wouldn't do to pick up a first down in comparison to his sliding like a little beeotch 3 yds shy of a 1st with open field in front of him... I had nothing but contempt for Uncle Rico from that point forward. This is always the 1st thing that comes to mind when I think of Orton that stupid slide 🙅🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, JP51 said: I am sure we are going to get the same players pretty much... I am interested in where they end up in your rankings... I am also interested in where Kelly and Allen show up in your picks... here are mine Allen Kelly Kemp Ferguson Flutie Bledsoe Fitz Lamonica Tyrod Frank Reich Kelly Allen Kemp Ferguson Flutie Bledsoe Fitz Lamonica Tyrod Frank Reich 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: I get what youre saying. I'd also argue that if Allen had Kelly's defenses he would have WON 4 Super Bowls already. In one of our Superbowls we had the 28th Defense in the NFL. There were 28 teams back then. 2 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Allen Kelly Lamonica Kemp Fitz Ferguson (for longevity) Bledsoe Frank Reich Tyrod Flutie 1 Quote
JP51 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, transient said: Curious to see where Bruce Mathison and Vince Ferragamo end up on people's lists... You blew my next thread LOL name the worst QBs... maybe that would have been a more interesting one... it starts with Hobert and Collins... then it goes from there. Quote
Jamie Nails Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Nathan Peterman Gibran Hamden Billy Joe Hobert Vince Young Matt Leinert Cardale Jones Thad Lewis Matt Simms Jeff Tuel Alex Van Pelt 1 Quote
JP51 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Kelly Allen Kemp Ferguson Flutie Bledsoe Fitz Lamonica Tyrod Frank Reich In one of our Superbowls we had the 28th Defense in the NFL. There were 28 teams back then. So I hated our Superbowl defenses... but in their defense... No Huddle gave the other team 3 to 4 more shots at the ball a game... 1 hour ago, corta765 said: Era weighted 1. Kelly - It truly is a shame the kick went wide right and they never finished after. He was an era defining QB and helped change the position. Allen will pass him soon but he had a great run as the standard and gave so many great moments. 2. Allen - He is a SB appearance away from leap frogging Kelly. He has done everything else and has the MVP, just one last breakthrough to finish taking the throne. 3. Kemp - Was a superb QB for the time and won two AFL titles. For the AFL he was one of the two star QBs and they were a game away from playing GB in the first SB 4. Joe Fergy Ferg! - He was a very good QB that happened to be in the 2nd level of QB starters when Bradshaw/Roger/& Tarkenton where thee guys at the time. In todays terms he was a guy like Dak and with todays playoff back then he would have gotten more press. 5. Doug Flutie - The two years he was the true starter 98/99 the team was legit and people had major playoff aspirations. He was very good in 98, 99 lukewarm but the team believed in him and I do believe the 99 team makes some type of run had he started in the Titans game. 6. Tyrod - His play in 2015 was legit good and if Rex didn't destroy the defense they were an 11 win team. Following two years he couldn't match what we hoped but he was still decent and he had a part in killing the drought. Call me sentimental but loved the dude. 7. Bledsoe - First year great, lukewarm following two years performance wise but he still had some moments in those two years 8. Fitz - I still think he gets more hype that reality of what he was, but I will say on a talented roster he makes a playoff 9. Daryl Lamonica - Whoops wish they kept him 10. Kyle Orton - He was serviceable and threw for 300 yds a few times while almost breaking the drought. He also is better then any QB I can think of in the 11 spot. This is the discussion I was looking for... maybe it should have been who is the best qb Kelly or Allen... my argument for Allen is... Kelly, Reed, Lofton, and Thomas... Give Allen 3 Hall of Famers... but... chicken and egg... except Lofton... are Reed and Thomas HOF without Kelly... I dunno... its a great debate for sure.... 1 Quote
Lost Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Trent Edwards JP Losman Kyle Orton Todd Collins ... ... ... ... Josh Allen Jim Kelly Quote
JP51 Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: Nathan Peterman Gibran Hamden Billy Joe Hobert Vince Young Matt Leinert Cardale Jones Thad Lewis Matt Simms Jeff Tuel Alex Van Pelt Dude Clod Collins gotta be in this mix someplace... 11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Allen Kelly Lamonica Kemp Fitz Ferguson (for longevity) Bledsoe Frank Reich Tyrod Flutie People dont remember how good Lamonica was before we traded him away... bad move... bring on Dennis Shaw.... Quote
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