Who was the Bills next best edge rusher after Bruce?

[msw2112]

8 hours ago, Andrew Son said:

Had to be Chris Kelsay

 

He had a high motor.

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If you are giving longevity points, sure. But Mario's first 3 years in Buffalo were better than Schobel's best three years. If the question is who was the best rusher at their peak after Bruce, it's Mario Williams. Peak Mario was the best Bills player of the drought era (talking pure drought so excluding those who played on the last playoff team pre-drought and then into the drought).

 

The issue with Mario was not that he wasn't talented or that he didn't put up good stats, it's that he (in my opinion) underperformed given the enormous contract he received and he often failed to show up in big games.  He was the most talented player on the roster, but not the most productive relative to his contract. 

Edited February 27 by msw2112

[msw2112]

7 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Not that this is an answer to the question posed, but I always thought it ironic that the guy who actually played on the opposite end of the line from Bruce, Leon Seals, had the nickname “Dr. Sack.” 
 

Here he was playing across from the man who would become the NFL‘s all-time sack leader and he almost never got to the QB. Yet he was the one that had that nickname. Of course, my buddies and I at the time took to calling him “Dr. Suck.” Seemed far more apropos.

 

I played defensive line in high school during that era.  I didn't have very many sacks, but I got one during the homecoming game (largely during garbage time, if my memory serves me correctly - it was a LONG time ago) and my drunken friends who were at the game referred to me as "Dr. Sack" after that.

 

After seeing the comment above, I'm REALLY glad they didn't call me "Dr. Suck!"

[GunnerBill]

35 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

 

The issue with Mario was not that he wasn't talented or that he didn't put up good stats, it's that he (in my opinion) underperformed given the enormous contract he received and he often failed to show up in big games.  He was the most talented player on the roster, but not the most productive relative to his contract. 

 

Strong, strong, strong disagree.

[Orlando Buffalo]

8 hours ago, gjv said:

Ron McDole

I thought this was a joke but looked it up and realized that I don't know all the great players on our teams in the 1960s if I did not know him. 

[Virgil]

9 hours ago, Andrew Son said:

Had to be Chris Kelsay

 

I will fight you

[Andrew Son]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

I will fight you

You more of a Ryan Denney guy?

[Mark Vader]

8 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Not that this is an answer to the question posed, but I always thought it ironic that the guy who actually played on the opposite end of the line from Bruce, Leon Seals, had the nickname “Dr. Sack.” 
 

Here he was playing across from the man who would become the NFL‘s all-time sack leader and he almost never got to the QB. Yet he was the one that had that nickname. Of course, my buddies and I at the time took to calling him “Dr. Suck.” Seemed far more apropos.

Leon can't do everything.

[Comebackkid]

9 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

I just flashed back to Mario’s red contacts.

 

Bad things, man!

 

[LABILLBACKER]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Mario was the best. Schobel may have had the best career here but Mario was the best player.

Anyone who mentions anyone other than Mario is just being silly. We've had exactly 2 elite pass rushers since 1990.  

[TheFunPolice]

I was recently watching some old highlights of Bruce on YouTube, and man...

 

I forgot how he just manhandled guys and rag dolled them on his way to crushing the QB

 

It's a huge dropoff, but Mario Williams was the next best DE we've had. 

 

 

[K-9]

8 hours ago, Beast said:

Bennett in his early years. After he hurt his shoulder, not so much.

Bennett’s ability off the edge shifted the power balance in the AFC East. Shula himself even said so. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

10 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

The Nickelback of defensive ends

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[Stranded in Boston]

Not ranking, but Ben Williams and Sherm White were stalwarts on the Bills defensive line mid 70s - mid 80s. White had 63 career sacks between Bills and Bengals. They were overshadowed by the "Bermuda Triangle" in early 80s, but both of those guys were dangerous pass rushers and very stout against the run. 

[Big Blitz]

Bryce Paup 

 

Mario 

Hughes 

 

Hansen 

Edited February 28 by Big Blitz

[vincec]

11 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Not that this is an answer to the question posed, but I always thought it ironic that the guy who actually played on the opposite end of the line from Bruce, Leon Seals, had the nickname “Dr. Sack.” 
 

Here he was playing across from the man who would become the NFL‘s all-time sack leader and he almost never got to the QB. Yet he was the one that had that nickname. Of course, my buddies and I at the time took to calling him “Dr. Suck.” Seemed far more apropos.

We used to call him “Dr. Sackless” 😆 

[FireChans]

4 hours ago, msw2112 said:

 

He had a high motor.

 

The issue with Mario was not that he wasn't talented or that he didn't put up good stats, it's that he (in my opinion) underperformed given the enormous contract he received and he often failed to show up in big games.  He was the most talented player on the roster, but not the most productive relative to his contract. 

How folks continue to have this take is wild.

 

The Bills made Mario Williams the highest paid defender in the NFL.

 

His first three years here, he had 38 sacks and two AP nods.

 

For context, Jerry Hughes in his 9 year stretch with the Bills has only 53 sacks.

 

I hate it to break it to you, but Mario Williams is far closer to the best FA the Bills have ever signed than he is to the worst. 

[B-Man]

 

 

                               

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

Single season was obviously Paup as he won DPOTY in '95.  It's hard to argue against Mario Williams though (43 sacks in 4 seasons).

[Big Turk]

Bryce Paup without question.

[GASabresIUFan]

Schobel - 78 sacks in only 133 games.  2 time pro-bowler and one time AP

 

Mario Williams 43 in 63 games, but 4 seasons is not a career.  Still 2 time Pro-Bowlers as a Bills and 2 time AP as a Bill.

 

I give the edge to Schobel because he is a career Bill.

Edited February 28 by GASabresIUFan