finn Posted February 27 Posted February 27 8 hours ago, Brand J said: As for travel, it’d be cool if the Bills incorporated something like players of the game (those who get game balls) get to sit in first class on the way back and on the way to the next game, even if it bumps multiple coaches to coach. A billionaire owner and he doesn't pay for his players to travel first class. Saving money for a third jet? And a coaching staff that treats themselves right while the grunts sit in coach. How do they think the players will react? Who do they think they are, royalty? I didn't respect McDermott as a coach much before, now I respect him even less now. No true leader is going to pull that crap. 1 1 1 Quote
shane nelson Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Coaches tend to game plan on the flights home, so i get first class seating. That said, with the money they have, there is no reason for the players to not be seating in seats that are just as comforting as first class. Just like the Patriots we should our own plane 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted February 27 Posted February 27 the Dolphins’ grades are hilarious. And I agree, they shouldn’t change a thing! Quote
Mango Posted February 27 Posted February 27 A lot of this has to do with ownership. Which I find both concerning and frustrating given the state of affairs just down route 5. 2 Quote
Mango Posted February 27 Posted February 27 7 hours ago, Augie said: I’m 6’1” and flew home in coach yesterday. My knees were directly up against the seat in front of me. I don’t know how these giants can even squeeze into a coach seat. That’s just not right. . Not just squeeze in comfortably. They’re multimillion dollar finely tuned machines expected to perform at the highest level. Saying NFL players complaining about travel is crazy is like putting 87 octane in your Ferrari and then telling the driver “do you know how many people drive a used Prius and/or rely on public transit”. Quote
billsfan89 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 10 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Do they have planes built like that available for charter? While NFL teams may make a ton of money its still much harder to justify buying or paying to have a plane setup for this for a total of maybe a dozen trips a year In the end as rich as the NFL is the teams only can charter what is available to charter. 2 Quote
klos63 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 11 hours ago, MJS said: The Commanders making such a big jump is clearly because of winning, not because they changed so many things for the players 😆 Well, the question is whether they get one-on-one attention from training staff, which 75% of players said they did for the Bills. I think the conclusion is a little different from the question they asked. There might be players who felt their recovery went just fine even if they didn't have one-on-one attention all the time. I'm sure having new ownership taking over for Snyder has nothing to do with it. Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 27 Posted February 27 9 hours ago, billsfan89 said: In the end as rich as the NFL is the teams only can charter what is available to charter. Reading some of the responses here is somewhat debatable whether a 747 can land in Buffalo too. Likely this response will get a responses from the camp that states you can land it, but then the ones who said you can't will reply again to them. Quote
zow2 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 11 hours ago, shane nelson said: Coaches tend to game plan on the flights home, so i get first class seating. That said, with the money they have, there is no reason for the players to not be seating in seats that are just as comforting as first class. Just like the Patriots we should our own plane But the Patriots players gave their team travel an F. They hate the plane. It's old and dated, no wifi, cramped and still has ashtrays in the armrests. So they own a 30-year old 767 that sucks. whoopeee. 1 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Reading some of the responses here is somewhat debatable whether a 747 can land in Buffalo too. Likely this response will get a responses from the camp that states you can land it, but then the ones who said you can't will reply again to them. I didn’t even catch that, seems like the Pegulas while they aren’t perfect owners they aren’t cheap (at least when it comes to the players) ones either. If there was some sort of fix for the issue I would think they would do it. 1 Quote
Watkins90 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 On 2/26/2025 at 10:40 AM, Brand J said: As for travel, it’d be cool if the Bills incorporated something like players of the game (those who get game balls) get to sit in first class on the way back and on the way to the next game, even if it bumps multiple coaches to coach. How about the team charter a plane that has more roomy seats and not be so stingy. 1 Quote
msw2112 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Watkins90 said: How about the team charter a plane that has more roomy seats and not be so stingy. I'm on record saying that the Bills should attempt to address this issue. That said, without buying a custom-built jet with all extra-large seats, it's been brought up above that there may not be a plane available to charter that has enough extra-large seats. The Patriots do have their own team plane and it's old with tiny seats and the players hate it. There may be a business opportunity for an owner of airplanes - design a custom plane for football teams to charter to away games. Maybe have small fleet of them. NFL and college teams can charter it when they have away games (particularly cross-country or international flights). A Buffalo to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philly, or NYC flight (which is probably less than an hour) might not require such a plane, but Buffalo to Seattle, Arizona, LA, SF, etc. would justify it. When Buffalo has a home game and Cleveland has a west coast road game, the Browns charter the plane, when Buffalo has a west coast game, they charter it. With the major college conferences stretching cross-country, college teams could charter it too. Michigan-LA for USC or UCLA, or Penn State to Oregon would be prime opportunities. North Carolina at Stanford (ACC) and similar games too. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted February 27 Posted February 27 17 hours ago, shane nelson said: Coaches tend to game plan on the flights home, so i get first class seating. That said, with the money they have, there is no reason for the players to not be seating in seats that are just as comforting as first class. Just like the Patriots we should our own plane It flies, drives, floats, or *****; lease instead of buy. The maintenance of a plane is exorbitant; if the plane is in the shop and the team needs to get to Miami, they will have to charter a flight anyway. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 27 Posted February 27 We ranked 32/32 in wrist recovery accessories. 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted February 27 Posted February 27 On 2/26/2025 at 12:02 PM, Process said: Interesting. Had no idea they did this. OP to Niagara Falls is a pain in the *** for sure. So the team gets a negative grade on something that wasn't even in their power to control? Not that I care exactly. Quote
Virgil Posted February 27 Posted February 27 When looking at the grades, two things jump out to me: 1 - Bills need a new plane. That F- really held them back. They'd be in the top 10 if that were a B or higher 2 - Coach being a B. There's only 4 coaches ranked less than a B. There are 4 Coaches ranked as a B. That means McD is ranked between 24-28 in the league. For all we hear about culture and family, that seems really low to me. Additionally, there's been comments about how our scheme was to blame for the KC loss (which I strongly agree with on both offense and defense). This is not a Fire McD post, but I think it's relevant that McD is not as beloved by his players as it's made out to be. For me, I'm personally giving McD this year to make it to the Super Bowl, or it's time to move on. He's done great things for us, but it's ***** or get off the pot time and we would need to try something different. Honestly, I can't say I would have been too upset if we let him go this offseason and brought in Ben Johnson, but that ship has sailed. 1 3 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, Einstein said: Head Coach having the 27th ranking is wow. Miami is ranked very highly in all categories surely they are one of the best teams in the league? Quote
First Round Bust Posted February 27 Posted February 27 On 2/26/2025 at 1:22 PM, CoudyBills said: Mine told me a 747 needs 10200 feet to takeoff fully loaded, BUF main runway is less than 9000 feet. well how does the dolphins 747 land and takeoff at BUF then - check the video on youtube - 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 28 Posted February 28 On 2/26/2025 at 11:02 PM, billsfan89 said: In the end as rich as the NFL is the teams only can charter what is available to charter. There is not a shortage of properly configured charters. On 2/27/2025 at 8:18 AM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Reading some of the responses here is somewhat debatable whether a 747 can land in Buffalo too. Likely this response will get a responses from the camp that states you can land it, but then the ones who said you can't will reply again to them. Yes they can land there. Miami does it. 16 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Miami is ranked very highly in all categories surely they are one of the best teams in the league? that's not the point of the poll On 2/26/2025 at 8:04 PM, finn said: A billionaire owner and he doesn't pay for his players to travel first class. Saving money for a third jet? And a coaching staff that treats themselves right while the grunts sit in coach. How do they think the players will react? Who do they think they are, royalty? I didn't respect McDermott as a coach much before, now I respect him even less now. No true leader is going to pull that crap. why doesn't the team travel in this?: Quote
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