Solomon Grundy Posted February 27 Posted February 27 6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Yes … but he doesn’t need to be until 2026… I don’t want to draft a guy in the 4th Round to play behind Cook, Johnson and Davis … Draft a guy in 12 months if they need to I refuse to pay him like Saquon Barkley and don’t want the unnecessary distraction of his contract situation 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Yes … but he doesn’t need to be until 2026… I don’t want to draft a guy in the 4th Round to play behind Cook, Johnson and Davis … Draft a guy in 12 months if they need to There is no guarantee that Johnson is back. I’m sure the Bills would love to have him back for sure but Johnson had a monster year for him, plays a position where the shelf life is small, and was a journeyman before coming to Buffalo , so he is going to try to maximize his bottom line while his play is at his peak. Might get too high for the Bills liking especially with their limited dollars Quote
T master Posted February 27 Posted February 27 18 hours ago, Logic said: Neal seems to be a talented prospect, BUT... If the Bills re-sign James Cook, then between him and Ray Davis, I don't see the need to spend a 4th on a running back. Even IF Ty is not re-signed, then a late rounder or UDFA or post-draft veteran signee should be fine for RB3. It's a very deep running back class. That said, if for any reason the Bills feel like re-signing James Cook is NOT going to be the likely outcome (which I don't anticipate), then that changes things. Has a verdict came down on Gore Jr. to this point or is he just a PS player ? Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 2 hours ago, T master said: Has a verdict came down on Gore Jr. to this point or is he just a PS player ? PS only IMO. No juice 1 Quote
Cash Posted February 27 Posted February 27 22 hours ago, Logic said: Neal seems to be a talented prospect, BUT... If the Bills re-sign James Cook, then between him and Ray Davis, I don't see the need to spend a 4th on a running back. Even IF Ty is not re-signed, then a late rounder or UDFA or post-draft veteran signee should be fine for RB3. It's a very deep running back class. That said, if for any reason the Bills feel like re-signing James Cook is NOT going to be the likely outcome (which I don't anticipate), then that changes things. Assuming Cook plays for the Bills next year (with or without a new contract), I totally agree. I would say 5th round or higher is allowable, but no RBs in the 4th or earlier. I don’t care if the guy available in the late 4th has a high 3rd round grade and is sticking out on the board. Those guys come along every other year. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 27 Posted February 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I refuse to pay him like Saquon Barkley and don’t want the unnecessary distraction of his contract situation That’s a different argument …I wouldn’t worry too much about the possible distraction at this early stage …. Likely it doesn’t happen. 6 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: There is no guarantee that Johnson is back yeah I know … if you follow back back through the thread ..this is a hypothetical discussion if Johnson is back … I don’t see the need to draft this guy too… Edited February 27 by Aussie Joe Quote
machine gun kelly Posted March 1 Posted March 1 On 2/26/2025 at 6:58 PM, MiracleAtRich1393 said: Interesting - can you tag someone for a future year? No miracle meaning he plays out his contract in 2025, and is tagged in 2026. You already knew I meant it, not in 2027. That makes no sense. Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: No miracle meaning he plays out his contract in 2025, and is tagged in 2026. You already knew I meant it, not in 2027. That makes no sense. Oh I thought you meant you could tag him now for 2026 as a negotiating tool or trade incentivizer, thought it was interesting if possible Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Billl said: He just ran a basically undraftable 40 time of 4.60. Eh I wouldn’t go that far but it def doesn’t help. Singletary ran a 4.66 and got drafted in the 3rd and Estime ran 4.72 last year and got drafted. This draft being so deep tho as well will def push him down a decent amount Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 1 Posted March 1 37 minutes ago, Billl said: He just ran a basically undraftable 40 time of 4.60. It’s hard for running backs to break 4.40. Most live in that 4.45 - 4.55 range. Even Henderson was 4.43 - 4.45. Hampton in the upper 4.40’s, Johnson right at 4.60. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted March 1 Posted March 1 9 hours ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said: Oh I thought you meant you could tag him now for 2026 as a negotiating tool or trade incentivizer, thought it was interesting if possible No bud. I thought you were being a wiseguy when I meant he plays out his contract, then and only then we tag him for one more year. Then we get two more years out of him and maybe he gives up these ridiculous ideas of $15 mil. and then we decide to extend or draft someone in a year. RB’s, and Safeties are meant to be cheap labor. 1 Quote
wppete Posted March 2 Author Posted March 2 4.6 40 time did not help him especially with the depth in this draft. He might be there in the 5th or even maybe the 6th round. Id be happy if we get him there. He is a great player…he needs a redshirt year and needs a good off field program, there was a clear difference in body makeup compared to the other RBs at the combine so there is plenty room for improvement. Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Officially 4.58 which with his tape is more than fine. I hope he's there Rd 4. 1 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted March 2 Posted March 2 On 3/1/2025 at 4:47 PM, machine gun kelly said: No bud. I thought you were being a wiseguy when I meant he plays out his contract, then and only then we tag him for one more year. Then we get two more years out of him and maybe he gives up these ridiculous ideas of $15 mil. and then we decide to extend or draft someone in a year. RB’s, and Safeties are meant to be cheap labor. Sorry for confusion was not being a wise guy thought it was an interesting potential option! Full agreement. RB & safety as day 3, UDFA, or Poyer/Hyde/Rapp/Ty Johnson salary level FA acquisitions only IMO 1 Quote
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