JPL7 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago one thing he said that was a big turn off to me was that it doesn’t sound like we are going to get much more man coverage on D.  Because the soft zone nickle base has been so successful in the playoffs. 🙄 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, JPL7 said: one thing he said that was a big turn off to me was that it doesn’t sound like we are going to get much more man coverage on D.  Because the soft zone nickle base has been so successful in the playoffs. 🙄  The scheme is an issue if they can't get pressure similar to Philadelphia Edited 3 hours ago by Kelly to Allen 2 3 Quote
appoo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago That's not at all what he said, he was saying that people got the job wrong of the new defensive assistant, who would be working with the DLine and not adding man stuff to the DBs 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, JPL7 said: one thing he said that was a big turn off to me was that it doesn’t sound like we are going to get much more man coverage on D.  Because the soft zone nickle base has been so successful in the playoffs. 🙄 People act like we play 90% zone 10% man lol  We've been in the upper third of the league in third down man defense the last couple years.. McDermott loves cover one man on third down in passing situations  We probably also finished the year playing around 40% man coverage all around towards the playoffs.. it's not like we sit in a soft Tampa two 85% of the game 1 1 Quote
appoo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago He also straight up talks about evolving his defense and being visonary to attack modern offenses Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, appoo said: That's not at all what he said, he was saying that people got the job wrong of the new defensive assistant, who would be working with the DLine and not adding man stuff to the DBs yep and the best part was it wasn't hidden in code or anything he said it right out.   People hear what they want to hear.  Man defense is this years number 1 wr. They are just never going to shut up about it as if its some magic thing.   Its fascinating watching people twist things into something they can complain about. Edited 2 hours ago by MikePJ76 2 2 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The only Magic needs to happen with our DL, because its not even close to being what we need. One thing McDermott said that no one has mentioned is they talked Speed on the Defense. But he said speed + small = no. He wants power, he wants size plus speed.  2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: The only Magic needs to happen with our DL, because its not even close to being what we need. One thing McDermott said that no one has mentioned is they talked Speed on the Defense. But he said speed + small = no. He wants power, he wants size plus speed.  He has directly mentioned the Defensive line each time he has spoken. He even went as far as saying the best teams he has been on had a good qb, oline and dline. Then he said we have the qb and o line.  They are going to invest in the D line this year I am just not sure which way they go about it at the moment. 2 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: People act like we play 90% zone 10% man lol  We've been in the upper third of the league in third down man defense the last couple years.. McDermott loves cover one man on third down in passing situations  We probably also finished the year playing around 40% man coverage all around towards the playoffs.. it's not like we sit in a soft Tampa two 85% of the game  Against KC the problem was too much man rather than not enough of it. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:  Against KC the problem was too much man rather than not enough of it. Sometimes the timing of the calls is as important as the calls themselves  His timing was certainly off 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 49 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:  But he said speed + small = no. He wants power, he wants size plus speed.   That would have been a great thing to prioritize 4 or 5 years ago. 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:  Against KC the problem was too much man rather than not enough of it. The problem against KC was not getting pressure on the Mahomes. I don't know the pressure rates exactly from the KC game, but they looked worse then the mediocre stats outlined below.   This is from the Rochester paper.  https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/02/07/buffalo-bills-defense-needs-a-game-wrecker-can-nfl-draft-provide-one/78286267007/ Quote  Bills defensive stats for 2024 In 2024, the Bills had only 39 sacks and ranked 20th in sack percentage at 6.1%. Their pressure rate of 34.9% was decent at 12th, but their average time to pressure of 2.63 seconds ranked 25th, meaning some of their pressure was simply a result of QBs holding the ball too long. This has to improve in 2025.   Quote
GunnerBill Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: The problem against KC was not getting pressure on the Mahomes. I don't know the pressure rates exactly from the KC game, but they looked worse then the mediocre stats outlined below.   This is from the Rochester paper.  https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/02/07/buffalo-bills-defense-needs-a-game-wrecker-can-nfl-draft-provide-one/78286267007/   Mahomes was getting it out in 1.7 seconds. It wasn't pressure that was the issue it was coverage. 2 Quote
HappyDays Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Â Mahomes was getting it out in 1.7 seconds. It wasn't pressure that was the issue it was coverage. Â A lot of fans are taking the wrong message away from our loss and the Eagles Super Bowl win. My concern is that Beane is one of those fans. 1 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Â Against KC the problem was too much man rather than not enough of it. The biggest problem in our defensive backfield was losing Benford early and having to replace him with 15-yard-cushion-Elam 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, JPL7 said: one thing he said that was a big turn off to me was that it doesn’t sound like we are going to get much more man coverage on D.  Because the soft zone nickle base has been so successful in the playoffs. 🙄 Eagles literally played mostly zone. And ran a lot of the same coverages. We don’t lose because of zone.  It’s not how I like to play defense but zone does work and it’s played the majority of the time by all defenses. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) I personally watched every snap of Eagles defense up until 34-0. They were in off coverage the majority of the game. Â They just ran their zone very well and Mahomes had no chance to improvise due to the rush. Vs Buffalo we always allow Mahomes to make plays, either with his legs or by extending plays. Â The Eagles literally ran a lot of what we do, Cooper Dejean in the Taron Johnson role. This year though we ran a lot more man vs KC, same results. Â Edited 58 minutes ago by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
MJS Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: People act like we play 90% zone 10% man lol  We've been in the upper third of the league in third down man defense the last couple years.. McDermott loves cover one man on third down in passing situations  We probably also finished the year playing around 40% man coverage all around towards the playoffs.. it's not like we sit in a soft Tampa two 85% of the game It's just fans who don't know what they are talking about and who just parrot the old talking points. 2 Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:  The scheme is an issue if they can't get pressure similar to Philadelphia Or personnel or coaching players.... Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago 2 hours ago, appoo said: He also straight up talks about evolving his defense and being visonary to attack modern offenses How long does it take? He’s had 8 years here with zero improvement in the playoffs and our biggest rivals 1 Quote
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