Mark Vader Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Magox said: Now we just need to get Cook at around $12m AAV, Bernard at around $10m AAV, Rousseau at around $23m AAV and Benford around $21m AAV. Get all these deals done and that frees up close to $20m from this years cap, extend Josh to an additional 4 years $245m and that will free up another $18m Man, you are on top of the salary cap numbers. 2 1 Quote
Magox Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: I have to wonder if Bernard is going to get a 2nd contract. Not sure it's the right move. He makes plays and he's the leader of the defense. If you don't extend him then its just another player that you have to replace, specially considering that once Milano's contract ends after the 2026 season that he probably won't be retained unless he comes in at a bargain deal, that would very likely mean you have two guys to replace. If they can get Bernard on a good deal I'd keep him. 3 2 1 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Well done. This means he has to hit certain targets to get $15 million a year. Can't complain as he's Josh's most reliable target and this is not foolish money. 3 1 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Magox said: Now we just need to get Cook at around $12m AAV, Bernard at around $10m AAV, Rousseau at around $23m AAV and Benford around $21m AAV. Get all these deals done and that frees up close to $20m from this years cap, extend Josh to an additional 4 years $245m and that will free up another $18m Hard pass on Rousseau and Benford at those numbers. If I'm paying a DE that money, he better be a game-changer like Watt, Crosby, Hendrickson, or even Parsons. Rousseau is a a guy you want as your #2. 4 1 1 Quote
Magox Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago And it states "up to", which means that the AAV could potentially end up being lower than $15M 13 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) So Shakir is worth $15 mill a season and Cook isn't LOL. Shakir has 1443 yards and 6 TDs the last 2 season on 148 touches. Cook has 2834 yards and 24 TDs the last 2 season on 520 touches, has made 2 Pro Bowls and was just voted to the NFL top 101 players by PFF. People who want to trade Cook instead of extending his contract need to re-think their priorities. I'm glad our management is finally investing in our drafted and developed skill players. It's long overdue. Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFan 2 2 1 3 1 1 4 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BILLS 4 EVER said: Seems on par. I'm glad we kept him but he is far from a #1. We're going to end up spending a lot at WR. That leaves little wiggle room for Cook and the Defense. We need to spend on D. I wonder how many void years on the signing bonus. How did they spread it to alleviate the cap. 32m/4 =8 m 8m per year plus salary. Your last comment on the cap, isn't as simple as that. They could guarantee his salaries in 2026/2027, for example. Those could each be $16m for all we know. Bottom line, it's not $32m divided 4. Im sure they structured this to hit the hardest cap wise, in 2-3years from now. Beane needs to stop losing so much dead cap, due to poor deals. We have Benford, Groot as locks to be extended. Highly likely for Bernard, and I'd put Cook at 50/50 though hopeful to keep him beyond 2025. Key is hitting on these 1st/2nd round picks...we're eating Elam $ essentially and Kincaid/Coleman need to elevate their game. 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Magox said: Now we just need to get Cook at around $12m AAV, Bernard at around $10m AAV, Rousseau at around $23m AAV and Benford around $21m AAV. Get all these deals done and that frees up close to $20m from this years cap, extend Josh to an additional 4 years $245m and that will free up another $18m Agree on Rousseau and Benford. Not certain I'd certain I'd want to go there yet on the other two. Read an article yesterday how Cook is asking to be paid like the elite, but he is on the field at a much lower percentage than these others. Rarely does he play on 3rd down. 1 Quote
stlbills13 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Love it. Making Gabe Davis money and is the far far far superior player Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I mean great! That usually means the cost this year is mostly the same, and if they are saying up to that means some decent incentives built in. Honestly, he's the most proven passing weapon we have Quote
Cray51 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I thought he would get closer to $18 a year, so $15 is a steal. I think he continues to be a 900-1100 yard receiver with high catch rate and great YAC. Exactly the wrinkle we need in this offense. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: So Shakir is worth $15 mill a season and Cook isn't LOL. Shakir has 1443 yards and 6 TDs the last 2 season on 148 touches. Cook has 2834 yards and 24 TDs the last 2 season on 520 touches, has made 2 Pro Bowls and was just voted to the NFL top 101 players by PFF. People who want to trade Cook instead of extending his contract need to re-think their priorities. I'm glad our management is finally invested in our drafted and developed skill players. It's long overdue. One plays running back and one plays WR. 23 minutes ago, chongli said: This is a good deal. That’s the sweet spot for a Shakir. Glad they made it work. 2 1 Quote
Magox Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Hard pass on Rousseau and Benford at those numbers. If I'm paying a DE that money, he better be a game-changer like Watt, Crosby, Hendrickson, or even Parsons. Rousseau is a a guy you want as your #2. Can't happen, you can't get guys like Crosby, Garrett or Parsons for that amount of money. Parsons will end up signing somewhere around $33M AAV. That's the going rate for people of Rousseau's and Benford's quality what I suggested above. Rousseau is an above average ascending starting DE, that's what they cost. Benford's level of play has been near elite and that's what they cost. You don't get rid of your two most valuable defenders who are young and ascending because you don't want to pay the going rates. The salary cap has exploded the past 2 years by $50M and 4 years from now it will be up somewhere between $100 - $130 M more. Inflation baby!! Didn't you and I have some arguments regarding Spencer Brown? You said $17M a year was way too much, I said that it wasn't. Turns out that you were right that $17M was what he was worth, he really is worth closer to $20M AAV. Edited 4 hours ago by Magox 2 1 2 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I like it. He's a good player and def part of the solution for sure. I just think its so funny with the Cook stuff and it being 15 a year. Quote
LEBills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) “Up to” 60 mill so wonder what the incentives are and what the real value shakes out to. Shakir is one of my favorite players so excited to have him along especially if it is even less than the 15/year. Just give Cook a similar deal and then the offense is set except for extending McGovern and drafting some WRs. Edited 4 hours ago by LEBills Quote
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