Bills and Khalil Shakir agree to 4-year extension ($60.2 million/$32 million guaranteed)

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Good deal. Nothing to complain about.

[transplantbillsfan]

12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

If it were up to you, we would have made Trent Edwards the highest paid player in the league.

 

You just aren't being realistic about your expectations.  Groot was an Elite NFL DE when it comes to run Defense and a B-B+ pass rusher.  He had 8 sacks, 16 TFLs, 3 Forced Fumbles, 1 Fumble Recovery and 3 Passes Defensed.

 

If he gets paid $22m AAV, that would translate to about 8% of the 2025 CAP.  % of the CAP at signing is really what we need to look at when it comes to these contracts and lucky for us, that's easy to find:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/position/edge/sort/average_league_cap_pct/dir/desc

 

If Groot signed a contract for $22m AAV, he'd be 15th in the NFL in terms of Edge Rusher contracts at signing when it comes to % of the CAP.  He'd be just behind Harold Landry and just ahead of Joey Bosa.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Salaries of active wrs

[Low Positive]

17 minutes ago, Billl said:

That’s a solid deal for Beane.  WR contracts are insane anymore.  4 seasons ago, the only WRs making over $15 million were Julio Jones, AJ Green, Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams, and Sammy Watkins.

The cap is almost $100 million higher than it was in 2021.

[JP51]

Congrats KS and thanks for handling this between you and the Bills and not like a Diva on social media... 

[GASabresIUFan]

42 minutes ago, Billl said:

That’s a solid deal for Beane.  WR contracts are insane anymore.  4 seasons ago, the only WRs making over $15 million were Julio Jones, AJ Green, Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams, and Sammy Watkins.

and teams are getting almost zero bang for the buck.

Edited 9 hours ago by GASabresIUFan

[TheFunPolice]

pay the guys that make plays all the time

 

Love it!

[foreboding]

Fair deal on both sides and well deserved.

[Aussie Joe]

47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Good deal. Nothing to complain about.

Exactly… some of these guys here would boo Santa Claus ..

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

This is the problem with conventional thinking about any sport.  The Bills score 30-31 points a game.  That equates to about 4 TDs and a FG.  To produce those points, the Bills need to average about 370 yards per game or about 6300 yards per season.  Why do I care where the yards come from as long as I get the yardage?  Why would I pay 15 mill for a 900 yard WR if I can get a 1400 yard RB for the same price who is effective in both the running game, protecting the QB and the passing game?  

 

There was 27 WRs last season costing their teams $15 mill or more in cap.  Only one of the 27 produced 1400+ yards and only 3 produced 1250 yards.  Only 4 of the 27 produced double digits in TDs.  That doesn't seem like a good allocation of limited cap space.

 

Bills run one of the most efficient offenses in the NFL.

[daz28]

15 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

and teams are getting almost zero bang for the buck.

I think a good way to determine bang for the buck might be to see what happens to the team when the #1 WR's aren't there.  Josh and the Bills are quite the exception when it comes to "spreading the ball around".  It would be disastrous for most teams.  

[GASabresIUFan]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Bills run one of the most efficient offenses in the NFL.

Yep and they need an elite RB to make it work.  

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, GASabresIUFan said:

Yep and they need an elite RB to make it work.  

Nope they need a good OL and a running GAME to make it work.  You’re totally off here.

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Nope they need a good OL and a running GAME to make it work.  You’re totally off here.

he is entitled to his opinion … the same as you 

[GASabresIUFan]

Just now, daz28 said:

I think a good way to determine bang for the buck might be to see what happens to the team when the #1 WR's aren't there.  Josh and the Bills are quite the exception when it comes to "spreading the ball around".  It would be disastrous for most teams.  

Hard to know.  If it is, then they lack the necessary depth at WR and RB to survive.  Overpaying a No. 1 receiver is a good way not to be able to afford adequate depth.

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

he is entitled to his opinion … the same as you 

Yep I agree.  

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Yep and they need an elite RB to make it work.  

 

No, the OL is the key to that part.

[SoonerBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Yep and they need an elite RB to make it work.  

No they dont.  

[daz28]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Hard to know.  If it is, then they lack the necessary depth at WR and RB to survive.  Overpaying a No. 1 receiver is a good way not to be able to afford adequate depth.

I just think we're just in a unique situation, because of Josh Allen.  Houston went in with great depth, but fell apart even with that crazy good depth, because of injuries.  The league is changing to more balls thrown at or near the LOS though, so it's a tough call.  For that reason, I'd agree that overspending on a #1 WR might be a bad decision, esp in our particular case.  

[GASabresIUFan]

14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Nope they need a good OL and a running GAME to make it work.  You’re totally off here.

Really, if anyone can run behind a great Oline, why was Davis a yard a carry less (3.9) then Cook (4.9)? 

 

Why then in the playoffs did Cook rush the ball 53 times to Davis' 7 when during the regular season Davis received about 50% of the carries Cook received? (Cook 207 to Davis 113).

 

I don't think I'm the one who is off base here.  

Edited 8 hours ago by GASabresIUFan