Commanders DT Johnathan Allen on the trade block

[MasterStrategist]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Cue the other typical fan response 'we can't afford it ..." 

 

Simple. You rework his deal. Add some void years. I don't even know if I'll be alive in 2030 so I really couldn't care less about "dead cap" 5-6 years from now. Look at Philadelphia. Learn from that.

Look at Philadelphia he says.

 

Well, they draft extremely well.  People act like they "bought" their DL, some they did, but it was drafting those monsters inside that made the difference this season.  How'd Philly do LY btw?

 

With a draft loaded with DL talent, this is not the time to be "buying" vets/trading for a $16m salary.

 

Why is Washington trading him?  Another contender coming off a NFCCG loss?  

[biggerdaddynj]

2 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Just go watch Cover1's salary cap podcast. We are not in a bad cap situation this year. 

Here’s the link—it’s a good watch (warning it’s 2 hours) and gives you ideas on potential moves to clear up cap space (nothing crazy/unrealistic):

 

 

[GolfandBills]

Trade for a DE and draft a DT

[BuffaloBillyG]

55 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Look at Philadelphia he says.

 

Well, they draft extremely well.  People act like they "bought" their DL, some they did, but it was drafting those monsters inside that made the difference this season.  How'd Philly do LY btw?

 

With a draft loaded with DL talent, this is not the time to be "buying" vets/trading for a $16m salary.

 

Why is Washington trading him?  Another contender coming off a NFCCG loss?  

They won the Super Bowl. Maybe you were boycotting?

 

And yes, they drafted the DL well. They also had picks that didn't pan out and took the opportunity when it was available to upgrade through trades. As an example, they whiffed on Jalen Reagor in the first round. Went on to trade for AJ Brown. Had a weakness a few years back at CB. Made a move for Slay. Those are the types of trades that take a team from good to Super. 

 

And again, that "$16M salary" can EASILY be redone to lower the cap hit to almost nothing. He's in the last year of his deal and would likely like some new guarantees. It's a no brainier. When all is said and done you can work that contract to less of a cap hit then the #30 overall pick is slotted to make. 

[Solomon Grundy]

NO!!

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

if this team is conservative with their off season approach, it's a huge mistake 

You are probably correct but I believe there is little chance that Beane spends the money necessary to make a big splash.  He will use the limited cap dollars to extend key contributors on expiring contracts ( Shakir is the first of these) and get value FA's to fill holes.  With three draft picks in the first 60, he should be able to land some impact contributors.

[MasterStrategist]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

They won the Super Bowl. Maybe you were boycotting?

 

And yes, they drafted the DL well. They also had picks that didn't pan out and took the opportunity when it was available to upgrade through trades. As an example, they whiffed on Jalen Reagor in the first round. Went on to trade for AJ Brown. Had a weakness a few years back at CB. Made a move for Slay. Those are the types of trades that take a team from good to Super. 

 

And again, that "$16M salary" can EASILY be redone to lower the cap hit to almost nothing. He's in the last year of his deal and would likely like some new guarantees. It's a no brainier. When all is said and done you can work that contract to less of a cap hit then the #30 overall pick is slotted to make. 

Ha I was not boycotting...good try 🤣 

 

Again why is Jonathan Allen such an upgrade at his cost, vs drafting?

 

Please enlighten us all.  Since it's a no brainer.

 

Again, if it's a no brainer and you know so much on Allen, why is Washington putting him on trade block/potentially cutting him when they have $50m+ of cap space?

 

And we are supposed to re do his deal, kick the can why?  What would his restructure look like?

 

If you can answer these questions, that would help me understand what your plan is for rebuilding this DL and managing a cap when we need to extended several talented core players.

 

Again, if this is a serious no brainer and you seem all in on this move, I'd hope you have alot more to offer than "pair him with Garret".

[aristocrat]

Guy was the super healthy before this year. Would be a force next to Oliver his physical looks good

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said:

Ha I was not boycotting...good try 🤣 

 

Again why is Jonathan Allen such an upgrade at his cost, vs drafting?

 

Please enlighten us all.  Since it's a no brainer.

 

Again, if it's a no brainer and you know so much on Allen, why is Washington putting him on trade block/potentially cutting him when they have $50m+ of cap space?

 

And we are supposed to re do his deal, kick the can why?  What would his restructure look like?

 

If you can answer these questions, that would help me understand what your plan is for rebuilding this DL and managing a cap when we need to extended several talented core players.

 

Again, if this is a serious no brainer and you seem all in on this move, I'd hope you have alot more to offer than "pair him with Garret".

First off, nice goal post moving. Truly top notch. The "no brainier" comment I made had to do with rework his deal and kick in some void years. No where did I claim to be "all in" or some Allen expert. YOU brought up the cap number and I refuted that with how to easily and financially fit him under the cap at a value price. Why is it a no brainier? Because if you care about dead cap hits 5 years from now...hell I don't even know if I'll be alive 5 years from now to care about it. 

 

Allen has requested a trade. The Commanders have granted permission. I have (several times) explained how managing his cap hit is feasible. You can scroll back up. If you need to know why Johnathan Allen would help our poor DL...I suggest you try and actually watch football. You seem more interested in grandstanding then actually having a conversation. Something I no longer do with those unable or unwilling to grasp easy and often used concepts. You can have whatever last word you want. I won't even see it. Go Bills

 

Finally, you ask questions that due to me not being in the front office of the Commanders or Bills would be impossible to answer as some kinda of "gotcha" or things you could easily find out for yourself with a 3 minute Google search. I would suggest however if you can't comprehend why reworking a guy on a 1 year deal would be something both sides would want to do...maybe you aren't the Master Strategist you claim to be. Maybe with the way you move goalposts and want to bait people to argue...you should switch the second half of your name to "Baiter". Be more fitting.

Edited 1 hour ago by BuffaloBillyG

[Rigotz]

In these situations, you have to ask “why would the Commanders, a team with tons of cap space, great offensive talent, and no defensive talent, let this guy walk?”

 

Something doesn’t sit right with me on this. I wouldn’t touch him.