Commanders DT Johnathan Allen on the trade block

[BuffaloBillyG]

Missed 9 games last year with a pectoral injury. Good force inside when healthy. Last year of his contract and is a $22M cap hit for Washington. He would look really good next to Garrett.. 

[Mark Vader]

Intriguing, but I'd still like to get someone a bit younger.

[BILLS 4 EVER]

Another Daquon Jones.  Great player, but not the same after pec tear.  I don't know what it is about pec injuries but it seems to really take a long time to recover and guys just never seem to get back to full strength. Worth a flyer at the right price.

[Mango]

24 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Missed 9 games last year with a pectoral injury. Good force inside when healthy. Last year of his contract and is a $22M cap hit for Washington. He would look really good next to Garrett.. 

 

He would cost us a pick plus $16M. Garrets number is low right now, but a quick glance at Spotrac and they don't have a lot of wiggle room for cap relief. As much as MG at $4.5M could yield a kings ransom, I don't think Cleveland can afford to trade him without a new contract in place. 

All that to say that is a lot of draft capital and cap space on just two players when the Bills have a lot of holes to fill (giggity giggity). 

[transient]

After Trent Murphy and Tim Settle, I say Washington can keep their defensive linemen to themselves. 

[MasterStrategist]

How we affording this again?

 

Cue the typical fans pay attention to names, and ignore the value/$ implications on rest of team.

 

I like Jonathan Allen but not at his cap $ for 2025.  And we have more extensions to make beyond Shakir.  

 

We have 5-6 real bad contracts on this team RN.  Beane might be able to fix some of them via pay cut (ie: Von or Daquon), but if not, we are stuck with some of those deals and going to be stuck with dead cap again on the others.

[BuffaloRebound]

Sounds like they’re gonna cut him.  Doubt anybody’s trading for him with that money due him.  I’d be cool with him or bosa on an incentive based contract, 

[BuffaloBillyG]

27 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

He would cost us a pick plus $16M. Garrets number is low right now, but a quick glance at Spotrac and they don't have a lot of wiggle room for cap relief. As much as MG at $4.5M could yield a kings ransom, I don't think Cleveland can afford to trade him without a new contract in place. 

All that to say that is a lot of draft capital and cap space on just two players when the Bills have a lot of holes to fill (giggity giggity). 

Lol..wasn't talking about in Cleveland. 

 

But I think realistically, Allen could be had for a mid round pick coming off the injury. Buy low. Re work his deal and it wouldn't be prohibitive at all IMO. 

[Mango]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Lol..wasn't talking about in Cleveland. 

 

But I think realistically, Allen could be had for a mid round pick coming off the injury. Buy low. Re work his deal and it wouldn't be prohibitive at all IMO. 

 

You said "He would look really good next to Garret". Which is what I was responding to. So $16M plus his midround, plus Garrett's picks, plus Garrett's likely new deal that carries a much heavier cap number. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Missed 9 games last year with a pectoral injury. Good force inside when healthy. Last year of his contract and is a $22M cap hit for Washington. He would look really good next to Garrett.. 

he’d look even better next to Garrett and DJ reader!  
 

I can see us trading for DL and signing one as a FA- but considering this draft class-  I expect one stud via FA/trade and one draft pick followed up with some Smoot/JP like deals for vets

[MikePJ76]

He is going to get cut.  

 

Nobody is trading for that contract.  

 

well nobody that is good at their job is trading for that contract.

[ndirish1978]

40 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

How we affording this again?

 

Cue the typical fans pay attention to names, and ignore the value/$ implications on rest of team.

 

I like Jonathan Allen but not at his cap $ for 2025.  And we have more extensions to make beyond Shakir.  

 

We have 5-6 real bad contracts on this team RN.  Beane might be able to fix some of them via pay cut (ie: Von or Daquon), but if not, we are stuck with some of those deals and going to be stuck with dead cap again on the others.

 

Just go watch Cover1's salary cap podcast. We are not in a bad cap situation this year. 

[TheWeatherMan]

1 hour ago, transient said:

After Trent Murphy and Tim Settle, I say Washington can keep their defensive linemen to themselves. 

You forgot the esteemed Casey Toolhill

[BuffaloBillyG]

48 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

You said "He would look really good next to Garret". Which is what I was responding to. So $16M plus his midround, plus Garrett's picks, plus Garrett's likely new deal that carries a much heavier cap number. 

And? It's called void years. It's completely doable. With plenty left to spare.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said:

How we affording this again?

 

Cue the typical fans pay attention to names, and ignore the value/$ implications on rest of team.

 

I like Jonathan Allen but not at his cap $ for 2025.  And we have more extensions to make beyond Shakir.  

 

We have 5-6 real bad contracts on this team RN.  Beane might be able to fix some of them via pay cut (ie: Von or Daquon), but if not, we are stuck with some of those deals and going to be stuck with dead cap again on the others.

Cue the other typical fan response 'we can't afford it ..." 

 

Simple. You rework his deal. Add some void years. I don't even know if I'll be alive in 2030 so I really couldn't care less about "dead cap" 5-6 years from now. Look at Philadelphia. Learn from that.

[947]

Nobody is taking his $22M cap hit, he's not worth that. Washington will have to cut him, then we'll be ready to talk.

[transient]

43 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

You forgot the esteemed Casey Toolhill

At least when the Bills signed Casey Toohill they knew they were getting Casey Toohill... I think they had expectations of a higher ceiling when they signed Trent Murphy and Tim Settle only to end up with Casey Toohill. 🤷‍♂️