New McD comments about Coleman

[KOKBILLS]

22 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

It was that way looking forward as well…

 

 

Weren’t any of you here for Moulds?  
Sometimes I wonder if most of the fans here are recent bandwagoners - mixed in with old fans with dementia…🤣

 

I already forgot what you wrote... 😁

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I wouldn't be shocked if we signed Hollywood brown and drafted golden from Texas Rd 1. Obviously resign mack hollins too. 

 

Looking back at the wr room last year was pretty underwhelming. 

 

He looked really good before the injury. I'm guessing it was much more serious than we thought and it was probably a bit of a mental issue too. That poyer hit was pretty tough 

 

You planning to cut Samuel as that adds up to 6 WR and they almost always only carry five.

 

When posters start talking about who they they think the team will sign or draft, you need to be able to count to 53! 

 

I've read a few posts how they should draft 2 rookie DT's  Then add Oliver Jones, Carter, an 2 rookies is 5, that's it ad having two rookies backups at the same position and your other backup is only in his 2nd year, doesn't likely mean the team will be better in 2025.  They may be better in around 2027 , but not right away.

[uticaclub]

36 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Not gonna lie…this type of language from an organization, about a player, is a little concerning…

 

It’s one thing to say that a player needs to grow- every player does…But when McD adds the part about “how much is up to him” makes you wonder if there is a motivational issue with Coleman…

 

I’m reminded of Marcell Darius, who had all the talent in the world…Yet teammates had to remind him that he could be a HOFer- IF HE WANTED TO BE…

 

Hopefully it’s not the same issue with Coleman…

Dareus had the potential to be a Hall of Famer if he dedicated himself to hard work and stayed injury-free. Coleman's had a significantly lower ceiling; what initially seemed like a pathway to year-to-year contracts after his rookie deal now looks uncertain, and he might not even complete his four years in Buffalo.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Keon seems to have that 'golden retriever' type energy that Josh does. How could you watch that puffy coat video after we drafted him and not immediately love the guy? That being said, I have serious doubts about Keon's willingness to focus on the finer details and improve himself as a player. I never had that doubt with Josh.

 

Keon had a wildly inconsistent season with plenty of good plays, but more bad plays, and even some 'unforgivable' plays. 

 

Getting hit in the back of the head while running a slant route in the HOU game. Not being ready for a pass on a slant route in the 2nd MIA game, deflecting the pass, and turning a should be TD into an INT. Multiple false start penalties. All of those showed an egregious lack of focus, even a rookie can NOT make mistakes like that.

 

Hopefully McBeane giving Keon some tough love in the media will light a fire under him. 

[HappyDays]

44 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The 4 games before Cooper was acquired the Bills scored 24 (the Bills defense scored 7 of the Bills 31 points against Miami). 10, 20, and 23 points. After the Bills traded for Cooper the lowest point total they had minus the week 18 irrelevant game was 23 against the Colts (the defense scored 7 points) and that was a game that Cooper did not play in due to injury. 

 

If you watched the Bills last 3 games before Cooper got there you could see teams were just not fearing the Bills WR core at all. It led to the slot and middle of the field being heavily defended and the boundaries lightly defended. After the arrival of Cooper the offense was opened up a lot more consistently. 

 

That's exactly right. Cooper's production ended up being disappointing for what we gave up for him, but it was still a trade that HAD to be made and had a measureable effect on the passing offense. Any other take is revisionist history. We had zero legit boundary threats until he walked in the door. And we have zero legit boundary threats on the roster right now. Hopefully Coleman can become one but you don't count on that. This time around let's get that WR on the roster in March instead of waiting for a forced desperation trade in October.

[uticaclub]

9 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Keon seems to have that 'golden retriever' type energy that Josh does. How could you watch that puffy coat video after we drafted him and not immediately love the guy? That being said, I have serious doubts about Keon's willingness to focus on the finer details and improve himself as a player. I never had that doubt with Josh.

 

Keon had a wildly inconsistent season with plenty of good plays, but more bad plays, and even some 'unforgivable' plays. 

 

Getting hit in the back of the head while running a slant route in the HOU game. Not being ready for a pass on a slant route in the 2nd MIA game, deflecting the pass, and turning a should be TD into an INT. Multiple false start penalties. All of those showed an egregious lack of focus, even a rookie can NOT make mistakes like that.

 

Hopefully McBeane giving Keon some tough love in the media will light a fire under him. 

I was initially excited about him until I saw his video about buying coats in the summer. Then I decided he needed to earn my praise, and he did not succeed.

[Solomon Grundy]

I'd rather hear the coach speak about his putrid defenses in playoff games and how he's going to make adjustments 😎

Edited 2 hours ago by Solomon Grundy

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Doesn’t like Keon and wants speed on offense.

 

I know who they should’ve drafted. I would like to see McDermott more involved in the draft process again.

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo_Stampede

[BillMafia716ix]

2 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Not gonna lie…this type of language from an organization, about a player, is a little concerning…

 

It’s one thing to say that a player needs to grow- every player does…But when McD adds the part about “how much is up to him” makes you wonder if there is a motivational issue with Coleman…

 

I’m reminded of Marcell Darius, who had all the talent in the world…Yet teammates had to remind him that he could be a HOFer- IF HE WANTED TO BE…

 

Hopefully it’s not the same issue with Coleman…

That’s exactly what it is. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

 

 

You guys picked him.

 

He wasn’t just assigned to you from the NFL corporate office.

 

He was a 500-600 yard WR in college.

 

His numbers would have been 700ish without the lost games, but his play style, strengths and weaknesses were the exact same as his Scouting Reports. 

 

You said he could play the X, he struggled. 
 

Going “hard” on Coleman now isn’t very impressive. 
 

I understand you’re counting on him to grow and learn and improve, but I really hope they don’t pull a Gabe Davis and just wait for him to improve enough to be the #2 WR, he’s just so uninspiring physically. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

You guys picked him.

 

He wasn’t just assigned to you from the NFL corporate office.

 

He was a 500-600 yard WR in college.

 

His numbers would have been 700ish without the lost games, but his play style, strengths and weaknesses were the exact same as his Scouting Reports. 

 

You said he could play the X, he struggled. 
 

Going “hard” on Coleman now isn’t very impressive. 
 

I understand you’re counting on him to grow and learn and improve, but I really hope they don’t pull a Gabe Davis and just wait for him to improve enough to be the #2 WR, he’s just so uninspiring physically. 

Josh Allen picked him.

 

If this was McDermott’s guy he wouldn’t be criticizing him. Terrel Bernard was his guy. He wasn’t good as a rookie but he praised him.

Edited 57 minutes ago by Buffalo_Stampede

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I wouldn't be shocked if we signed Hollywood brown and drafted golden from Texas Rd 1. Obviously resign mack hollins too. 

 

Looking back at the wr room last year was pretty underwhelming. 

 

He looked really good before the injury. I'm guessing it was much more serious than we thought and it was probably a bit of a mental issue too. That poyer hit was pretty tough 

He did flub the catch in the red zone in that game and have 1-catch.

 

It constantly gets said what an upward trajectory he was on. 
 

Upward trajectory is what Jaxon Smith-Ngijba was this year.  

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Josh Allen picked him.

Whatever, you’re the FO, you’re paid to know the right answers. 
 

At minimum don’t trade with your bitter enemy for a freaking couple of pick swaps and tell us it’s for the good of the franchise. 
 

But they don’t have any anger towards Kansas City. There’s nothing they can do but talk about how good they are.

 

Now they want speed, whatever buys McDermott and Beane some more time. They’ve never shown once that they value speed, and don’t give me Curtis Samuel - he’s a short area, dump off player who catches for 9-ypc.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 hours ago, Utah John said:

Coleman was drafted to be a long-term WR2, never the WR1 we all thought (and think) we need.  Drafting at the end of the first round, the options were limited.  I think the Bills made a mistake by undervaluing Xavier Worthy, who turned out to be far better than many expected.  So yeah, it was a mistake not to grab Worthy when they had the chance.  But as for Coleman, maybe he does need to show more dedication to physical training, to tape study, to understanding the offense, and to better two-way communication with Josh.  The fact remains that Worthy is a small guy and Coleman is not.  You'd think it would be Worthy who was more likely to be injured, but a wrist is a vulnerable point for everyone.  It could still turn out that Worthy gets broken in two by some throwback safety, and that Coleman becomes a productive and reliable weapon.  Time will tell.

 

All that said, it wasn't Coleman or any other receiver that kept the Bills out of the SB.  It was the lack of depth and capability among the DBs.  And THAT was due to Beane trying to play whackamole with all the gaps that appeared in his roster a year ago.  He patched together what might have been an adequate secondary, but when a couple of starters went down, the weakness appeared.  

Yeah 4.21, 1,000 yard WR from a enormous SEC program, who could have seen Worthy coming? 
 

 

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

That's exactly right. Cooper's production ended up being disappointing for what we gave up for him, but it was still a trade that HAD to be made and had a measureable effect on the passing offense. Any other take is revisionist history. We had zero legit boundary threats until he walked in the door. And we have zero legit boundary threats on the roster right now. Hopefully Coleman can become one but you don't count on that. This time around let's get that WR on the roster in March instead of waiting for a forced desperation trade in October.

 

I get that the Bills last off-season with the Diggs trade were much more cap strapped and couldn't replace both Diggs and Davis via free agency. This time it would make more sense to at least attempt to get a capable veteran boundary WR in the off-season. And while that's not easy to do the Bills have more resources to do so than they had last off-season.

[Kelly to Allen]

3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

It was that way looking forward as well…

 

 

Weren’t any of you here for Moulds?  
Sometimes I wonder if most of the fans here are recent bandwagoners - mixed in with old fans with dementia…🤣

 

Moulds is the exception. Players as great as Moulds are usually great pretty quickly. 

2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

You planning to cut Samuel as that adds up to 6 WR and they almost always only carry five.

 

When posters start talking about who they they think the team will sign or draft, you need to be able to count to 53! 

 

I've read a few posts how they should draft 2 rookie DT's  Then add Oliver Jones, Carter, an 2 rookies is 5, that's it ad having two rookies backups at the same position and your other backup is only in his 2nd year, doesn't likely mean the team will be better in 2025.  They may be better in around 2027 , but not right away.

 

I really hope they go with 6 wrs. They need to improve there especially on the outside in a major way imo. 

32 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah 4.21, 1,000 yard WR from a enormous SEC program, who could have seen Worthy coming? 
 

 

 

Coleman was better than worthy by a significant amount before the injury. The Worthy argument doesn't even make sense