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  On 2/25/2025 at 12:05 AM, FireChans said:

Have you heard McD be so critical of a rookie player before? 
 

I haven’t that I can recall. I’m not sure he even said stuff like this about Elam.

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Never.

 

This is a very new thing for this regime.

 

He didn’t even start criticizing Elam until this year (Elams 3rd full season).

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  On 2/24/2025 at 11:30 PM, Beast said:

Yep.

 

That’s all I have to say about that.

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Forrest? Is that you? 

 

Great coaches know that every player is a different person with different personalities and motivational points. You push different people in different ways, and that’s not just in football, that’s in life. I like Keon’s puffy coat, but I’ve never met the man. I hope they know how to best manage his growth. 

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  On 2/25/2025 at 1:51 AM, Einstein said:


Never.

 

This is a very new thing for this regime.

 

He didn’t even start criticizing Elam until this year (Elams 3rd full season).

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..…and maybe that’s a great thing. Add in the coaching additions, and maybe we are evolving. As I’ve been saying, I want people to get better over time. We are getting a little different feel this offseason.  

 

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Posted
  On 2/24/2025 at 11:46 PM, MikePJ76 said:

Did anyone ask him about that 3rd round pick they flushed down the toilet on Amari Cooper?

 

I would love to hear their answer to that.

 

 

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They needed WR help in a potential championship season and they took a shot. I don’t see anything wrong with that. 

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Posted
  On 2/25/2025 at 1:42 AM, Einstein said:

 

That may be true, but he still looked like crap for much of the first half of the season too.

 

He had that amazing catch vs Seattle but he also had numerous games of dropped balls, poor adjustments and no separation.

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He had four drops on the whole season.  I guess that qualifies as "numerous".  People have been claiming victories in the Coleman is great or he isn't debate all year.  Did anyone read his scouting report at all?  He's pretty much as advertised and you can either look at what he did well and say hopefully we'll see more of that or you can look at what he didn't and say that's what we've got.  He did plenty of things well and that's what I'm going to hope for more of.

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Posted
  On 2/25/2025 at 12:02 AM, Cray51 said:

Cooper had a bad wrist injury suffered one week into his tenure as a Bill, and went against the doctors suggestion to shut down for the season and tried playing through it

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The Bills also massively benefitted from Cooper's presence. There's a reason why the offense got a lot better after the trade. 

  On 2/25/2025 at 1:56 AM, nedboy7 said:

I’ve never seen a bigger non-story.  

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A coach saying a rookie needs to improve in his second year? Seems like a pretty common thing. 

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Posted
  On 2/25/2025 at 2:24 AM, billsfan89 said:

 

The Bills also massively benefitted from Cooper's presence. There's a reason why the offense got a lot better after the trade. 

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No doubt we went from averaging over 30 points per game to averaging over 30 points per game.

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Not gonna lie…this type of language from an organization, about a player, is a little concerning…

 

It’s one thing to say that a player needs to grow- every player does…But when McD adds the part about “how much is up to him” makes you wonder if there is a motivational issue with Coleman…

 

I’m reminded of Marcell Darius, who had all the talent in the world…Yet teammates had to remind him that he could be a HOFer- IF HE WANTED TO BE…

 

Hopefully it’s not the same issue with Coleman…

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  On 2/24/2025 at 11:32 PM, Kelly to Allen said:

Looking back at the wr room last year was pretty underwhelming. 

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It was that way looking forward as well…

 

 

Weren’t any of you here for Moulds?  
Sometimes I wonder if most of the fans here are recent bandwagoners - mixed in with old fans with dementia…🤣

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Posted (edited)
  On 2/25/2025 at 2:28 AM, Maine-iac said:

No doubt we went from averaging over 30 points per game to averaging over 30 points per game.

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The 4 games before Cooper was acquired the Bills scored 24 (the Bills defense scored 7 of the Bills 31 points against Miami). 10, 20, and 23 points. After the Bills traded for Cooper the lowest point total they had minus the week 18 irrelevant game was 23 against the Colts (the defense scored 7 points) and that was a game that Cooper did not play in due to injury. 

 

If you watched the Bills last 3 games before Cooper got there you could see teams were just not fearing the Bills WR core at all. It led to the slot and middle of the field being heavily defended and the boundaries lightly defended. After the arrival of Cooper the offense was opened up a lot more consistently. 

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Posted
  On 2/25/2025 at 12:50 AM, Cheektowaga Chad said:

You don't publicly say these things about a rookie unless you believe he is gonna take this as motivation and become very good and quickly 

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They will take the approach with each player individually that they think will produce the best results to motivate them to improve …. Some may need a public call out whilst others might respond better to more personal encouragement…

Posted
  On 2/24/2025 at 11:46 PM, MikePJ76 said:

Did anyone ask him about that 3rd round pick they flushed down the toilet on Amari Cooper?

 

I would love to hear their answer to that.

 

 

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Ya, brutal. 

Keon and Hollins played over him, basically wasted a 3rd. 

And McD talking about speed, sounds like he's taking shots at Beane for the Worthy trade, maybe..

Good listen, never heard of these guys but they're good

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