Tush Push Ban

[Dablitzkrieg]

Ironically,  given the name, it was the Packers 

[MJS]

22 minutes ago, DrMaxPower said:

They don't even really need to ban it. Just start enforcing the rule on assisting a runner.

 

For most of the history of the game it was illegal to push a ball carrier like that. For some reason they stopped penalizing it unless a guy was pulling vs pushing.

Only pulling a player is not allowed. That doesn't ever get called, though. Not since the early 90's.

2 hours ago, ngbills said:

No reason to ban it, but I am all for finding a new name and not allowing it to be called tush push.

It is called the QB sneak.

[DrMaxPower]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Only pulling a player is not allowed. That doesn't ever get called, though. Not since the early 90's.

 

I'd have to dig up the rule to read the definition but as I recall, neither are technically allowed.

 

Maybe my memory is bad but I feel like it changed much more recently than the 90s.

[MJS]

6 minutes ago, DrMaxPower said:

 

I'd have to dig up the rule to read the definition but as I recall, neither are technically allowed.

 

Maybe my memory is bad but I feel like it changed much more recently than the 90s.

I think the point of the rule is to prevent players from picking up the ball carrier and physically carrying them. I bet if we saw that the officials would throw the flag.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I actually think it ought to be banned. It’s just not a skill play.

 

Neither is a half back dive up the middle. It’s pure brute force, but that’s what football is about and building a good line. You look for bigger, stronger guys to push the other teams bigger guys off the LOS. Football doesn’t always have to be complicated.  

[oldmanfan]

I favor getting rid of it.  Make offenses earn it.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Neither is a half back dive up the middle. It’s pure brute force, but that’s what football is about and building a good line. You look for bigger, stronger guys to push the other teams bigger guys off the LOS. Football doesn’t always have to be complicated.  

Something about even a HB dive feels like more of a football or skill play. Have to block it up, hit the hole, etc. 

 

on the tush push, just feels like a mass of bodies each shoving each other. 

[Bferra13]

It will be banned soon enough. Be it this year or 5 years from now. I'm not a big fan of it.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

McD doesn’t like it either. 
 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sean-mcdermott-expresses-safety-concerns-about-the-tush-push

[Shortchaz]

It is the essence of football, or based football. 
 

the assisting the runner argument does hold water, all other arguments against it are weak. 

[Stads]

3 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I like it. It's a massive mano a mano pile of humanity trying to simply overpower the other. I think it's pretty cool.

[SoonerBillsFan]

9 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

McD doesn’t like it either. 
 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sean-mcdermott-expresses-safety-concerns-about-the-tush-push

I'm for banning it.  I'm sick of Josh doing it, it's asking for an injury.

[Augie]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I actually think it ought to be banned. It’s just not a skill play.

 

 

Football, at its root, is a brute game, imo. Win the lines, win the game. 

 

I don’t love a maul slowly moving like a glacier, and I’m sure the NFL doesn’t want to see it evolve to that, so I expect some short whistles or other modifications. 

[JPPT1974]

Well there are pros and cons of getting rid of the Tush Push. Effectively working ask the Eagles! But also the defense against tush push have to try much more harder.

[Shaw66]

24 minutes ago, Stads said:

Maybe each team can be allowed three Sumo wrestler. I like their outfits.