Tush Push Ban

[pennstate10]

18 hours ago, MJS said:

I don't think there is a case for it to be banned besides some people just not liking it, for some reason. It fits completely within the rules and the spirit of the game. Nobody has an issue with linemen pushing running backs forward when they get stopped.

Actually, I have an issue with lineman pushing or assisting RB. 
 

This was illegal until a few years back.  
 

Even though Dion Dawkins is pretty good at this, I like the old rule better. 
 

As others have mentioned, if I wanted to watch a rugby scrum, I’d watch a rugby match. 

[MJS]

40 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Actually, I have an issue with lineman pushing or assisting RB. 
 

This was illegal until a few years back.  
 

Even though Dion Dawkins is pretty good at this, I like the old rule better. 
 

As others have mentioned, if I wanted to watch a rugby scrum, I’d watch a rugby match. 

Ok. I can see that you and others feel that way. I actually like it and I'm against over legislating the game. I don't want to put even more on the officials for them to potentially mess up.

 

We should be removing and simplifying the rules, not adding. That's my opinion.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just don't let players line up that close to the QB unless they are in motion.  Then you can only have one person, and if you really wanted to use them to push they'd have to time it - which lets the defense time it.  

[TurfToeJam]

19 hours ago, dpberr said:

Don't have to ban it but I'd make offenses declare that's the play, so the defense can design plays to stop it.  

 

I don't think it's fair that the defense can't commit to stopping the play because it's got to try to stop multiple possible plays.  

 

I'd also allow the defense to push players towards the pile.  (I'm not sure if the defense can do that or not.)

 

That's an to interesting idea actually.  Would be interesting to see it tested out in preseason games

[bigduke6]

id be fine if they banned it.  extremely unfair to defenses especially around the goal line.  you cant really run it or stop it without putting your body in jeopardy.  sure its fun when it works for you,  its not when it works against you.  

Edited February 25 by bigduke6

[RichRiderBills]

Why is McD against it? It was a bread and butter for us..

 

 

[billsfan89]

6 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

Actually, I have an issue with lineman pushing or assisting RB. 
 

This was illegal until a few years back.  
 

Even though Dion Dawkins is pretty good at this, I like the old rule better. 
 

As others have mentioned, if I wanted to watch a rugby scrum, I’d watch a rugby match. 

 

Yeah I didn't mind the new rule but I prefer the older one. 

[Bockeye]

11 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

Actually, I have an issue with lineman pushing or assisting RB. 
 

This was illegal until a few years back.  
 

Even though Dion Dawkins is pretty good at this, I like the old rule better. 
 

As others have mentioned, if I wanted to watch a rugby scrum, I’d watch a rugby match. 

In the same vein,  If i wanted to watch someone kick a ball, I’d watch soccer. 

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

Why is McD against it? It was a bread and butter for us..

 

 

Until it wasn't in the Chiefs game. We executed terribly in that game.  I'm not losing sleep if they ban it.  

[RichRiderBills]

4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Until it wasn't in the Chiefs game. We executed terribly in that game.  I'm not losing sleep if they ban it.  

 

Until we don't execute it properly which proves it takes skill and timing. 

 

We got cute and it cost us. 

[Jerome007]

On 2/24/2025 at 5:25 PM, Low Positive said:

Some team whose QB is too fragile to run it. So KC or Cincinnati, most likely. 

When the play is obvious as this one is, you can, indeed, put a TE or FB or whatever there. It does NOT have to be the QB. It's smart. A big QB like Josh could actually be the one pushing from behind instead of the one taking the punishment. 

As for banning it, I'm against unless it is shown to cause many injuries, and/or payers themselves are against it. Otherwise I like it. And sadly, the Chiefs proved against the Bills that it can be stopped. With some referee help of course.