MikePJ76 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) So this is my thread to make my case that I think Andre Cisco is the perfect stopgap/longterm Free Safety for this defense. I made a highlight reel this morning of his plays that stand out. I am sure I missed some plays but I did it quick and yes this is a HIGHLIGHT reel to show is abilties. If you watch the video (It's long, sorry) you will see he has excellent traits and abilities. He plays deep safety well, can blitz at the line of scrimmage, seems to be a sure tackler, can deliver big hits, covers slot guys in man and most importantly can turn his hips and go back and get the ball. Lets start here, he is a new yorker who went to Syracuse University where he had 13 career interceptions. He will understand the weather in Buffalo having gone to SU. He is a free safety. His signing would allow Rapp/Bishop to be the Strong safety and play near the line and also allow one of them to be the dime and other sub package player, like Rapp in 2023. He had a down year in Jacksonville in 2024, the whole team had a down year and everyone was fired so I am sure that had something to do with it. He is the perfect candidate to come here and sign a one year prove it deal or an inexpensive 2 or 3 year deal to give him some security and allow the Bills to manage the money better. He called out teammates last year saying they quit and didn't give good enough effort after the game vs the bears. Here is an interesting article from yardbarker on Cisco. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/andre_cisco_is_free_agencys_best_value_at_the_safety_position_despite_his_down_year_with_the_jags/s1_17313_41807936 some highlighted points. Cisco is mainly a "centerfielder", meaning he plays his best ball in the back end of the defense, but he can also play the box and cover guys in the slot when needed. He also has the length and just enough size to be able to cover just about any part of the field from the safety position. A team could really strike gold, here, especially when considering Cisco's projected market value in free agency. NFL cap analysts Josh Queipo and Kyle DeDiminicantanio have Cisco landing a one-year $5.25 million deal in free agency. Pro Football Focus and Spotrac have a richer outlook for Cisco. PFF projects him to land a three-year deal worth $9 million per year and Spotrac has his AAV at $10.8 million per year. Those numbers would tie him at No. 15 and land him at No. 12, respectively among all safety contracts. Spotrac's number is too high and PFF's is toeing the line. If a team gets him on the cheaper side of a one-year deal and he returns to his 2022-2023 form, then Cisco will easily be one of the better free agent signings of the offseason and it'd be nearly impossible to argue otherwise. Spotrac's page for him. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72445/andre-cisco here is where they see his market value Market Value 1 years, $10,779,945 Avg. Salary: $10,779,945 NFL Rank: 201 S Rank: 4 They compare him to the deal KC gave Justin Reid, 3 years 31 million. If Buffalo can shore up their free safety position with numbers like these, somewhere in the range of 1 year at 5 to 9 million or 3 years at 5 to 9 with incentives it would allow them to focus on other areas in the draft and not force a safety in the first or second round or force bishop/rapp to be a starter. A young vet on a prove it deal is perfect, he seems to be a perfect fit to me. This team needs a centerfielder. Cisco would also not stop them from drafting a young safety and give them a group of 4 that can all play. here is the highlight reel I threw together this morning. I really hope they sign him. I may make another reel of this sort for the other guy I want, Darius Slayton. I will see if I have time tomorrow. Quick Note on the reel, I added in the all 22 replay for a couple of plays because the game film didn't show them. The All 22 shots have no audio. Oh and they played Mr. Brightside after he picked off Caleb Williams during the commercial break and Rich Eisen pointed it out when they returned, feels like the universe telling us something. ok that is it unleash the thumbsdown emoji's. Yes you have to watch the video on youtube's site but here is the link. Edited 5 hours ago by MikePJ76 4 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I just want to point out that Syracuse plays in a dome so.. Syracuse doesn't play in adverse weather at home Tho lot of ACC teams do 2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Buffalo716 said: I just want to point out that Syracuse plays in a dome so.. Syracuse doesn't play in adverse weather at home Tho lot of ACC teams do Yes I think we are all aware of this. The point was that he lived in Syracuse for a few years and understands the weather. 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I just want to point out that Syracuse plays in a dome so.. Syracuse doesn't play in adverse weather at home Tho lot of ACC teams do Yes but walking in from the parking lot is brutal! Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Yes I think we are all aware of this. The point was that he lived in Syracuse for a few years and understands the weather. Absolutely but I don't think that really has any bearing on anything truly .. there are warm weather guys who played good in the cold and cold weather guys don't play good in it James Cook is a Florida boy who played in Georgia.. probably never saw snow before he came to Buffalo And he is a machine in a snow game.. some people naturally have the ability to play in weather and some don't It comes down to how good your feet are Edited 4 hours ago by Buffalo716 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I'm all about fixing the secondary in free agency. It's not my money 😂 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I think Bishop is better suited for strong safety so could move Bishop there and sign Cisco for FS. Then either have Rapp for depth or cut/trade him, admittedly wouldn't get very much in a trade maybe a 6th or 7th. Add to that as much as Rapp was hurt, wouldn't be a terrible thing. However the Bills have Bishop and Rapp for another year. Considering they have somewhat limited resources to spend in FA, not sure you'd want to spend money on a player that may not have a starting position for him. but if the Bills feel moving on from Rapp as a starter is a positive move, then yes to this. Quote
Augie Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I think Bishop is better suited for strong safety so could move Bishop there and sign Cisco for FS. Then either have Rapp for depth or cut/trade him, admittedly wouldn't get very much in a trade maybe a 6th or 7th. Add to that as much as Rapp was hurt, wouldn't be a terrible thing. However the Bills have Bishop and Rapp for another year. Considering they have somewhat limited resources to spend in FA, not sure you'd want to spend money on a player that may not have a starting position for him. but if the Bills feel moving on from Rapp as a starter is a positive move, then yes to this. I think Rapp and Bishop are both more in the box safeties and we need a guy to play center field back there. Let Rapp and Bishop battle it out for SS and keep the other for depth. We KNOW we will need quality depth (cap be damned), a lesson learned too many times the hard way. Then find someone with the ability to fly around in coverage a bit better. Is this the guy? I have absolutely no idea. 2 2 Quote
MJS Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Augie said: I think Rapp and Bishop are both more in the box safeties and we need a guy to play center field back there. Let Rapp and Bishop battle it out for SS and keep the other for depth. We KNOW we will need quality depth (cap be damned), a lesson learned too many times the hard way. Then find someone with the ability to fly around in coverage a bit better. Is this the guy? I have absolutely no idea. Honestly, Hamlin is better in the box as well. But maybe that is what they want. Two safeties who have the ability to play in the box, run stuff, and blitz. Quote
Augie Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, MJS said: Honestly, Hamlin is better in the box as well. But maybe that is what they want. Two safeties who have the ability to play in the box, run stuff, and blitz. I think Hamlin is a nice guy and a great story, but he’s small and slow and I think they know we need better coverage back there. Time will tell! Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Absolutely but I don't think that really has any bearing on anything truly .. there are warm weather guys who played good in the cold and cold weather guys don't play good in it James Cook is a Florida boy who played in Georgia.. probably never saw snow before he came to Buffalo And he is a machine in a snow game.. some people naturally have the ability to play in weather and some don't It comes down to how good your feet are Ok well I was just saying he is a nyc dude who played college football at SU. kind of shocked we are talking about weather. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 36 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Ok well I was just saying he is a nyc dude who played college football at SU. kind of shocked we are talking about weather. I get that bro and he's a solid football player I just made my one statement that's it.. I wasn't taking anything away from your post which you put time into and he is a solid football player I did enjoy reading your post 👍 Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716 Quote
LEBills Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: So this is my thread to make my case that I think Andre Cisco is the perfect stopgap/longterm Free Safety for this defense. I made a highlight reel this morning of his plays that stand out. I am sure I missed some plays but I did it quick and yes this is a HIGHLIGHT reel to show is abilties. If you watch the video (It's long, sorry) you will see he has excellent traits and abilities. He plays deep safety well, can blitz at the line of scrimmage, seems to be a sure tackler, can deliver big hits, covers slot guys in man and most importantly can turn his hips and go back and get the ball. Lets start here, he is a new yorker who went to Syracuse University where he had 13 career interceptions. He will understand the weather in Buffalo having gone to SU. He is a free safety. His signing would allow Rapp/Bishop to be the Strong safety and play near the line and also allow one of them to be the dime and other sub package player, like Rapp in 2023. He had a down year in Jacksonville in 2024, the whole team had a down year and everyone was fired so I am sure that had something to do with it. He is the perfect candidate to come here and sign a one year prove it deal or an inexpensive 2 or 3 year deal to give him some security and allow the Bills to manage the money better. He called out teammates last year saying they quit and didn't give good enough effort after the game vs the bears. Here is an interesting article from yardbarker on Cisco. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/andre_cisco_is_free_agencys_best_value_at_the_safety_position_despite_his_down_year_with_the_jags/s1_17313_41807936 some highlighted points. Cisco is mainly a "centerfielder", meaning he plays his best ball in the back end of the defense, but he can also play the box and cover guys in the slot when needed. He also has the length and just enough size to be able to cover just about any part of the field from the safety position. A team could really strike gold, here, especially when considering Cisco's projected market value in free agency. NFL cap analysts Josh Queipo and Kyle DeDiminicantanio have Cisco landing a one-year $5.25 million deal in free agency. Pro Football Focus and Spotrac have a richer outlook for Cisco. PFF projects him to land a three-year deal worth $9 million per year and Spotrac has his AAV at $10.8 million per year. Those numbers would tie him at No. 15 and land him at No. 12, respectively among all safety contracts. Spotrac's number is too high and PFF's is toeing the line. If a team gets him on the cheaper side of a one-year deal and he returns to his 2022-2023 form, then Cisco will easily be one of the better free agent signings of the offseason and it'd be nearly impossible to argue otherwise. Spotrac's page for him. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72445/andre-cisco here is where they see his market value Market Value 1 years, $10,779,945 Avg. Salary: $10,779,945 NFL Rank: 201 S Rank: 4 They compare him to the deal KC gave Justin Reid, 3 years 31 million. If Buffalo can shore up their free safety position with numbers like these, somewhere in the range of 1 year at 5 to 9 million or 3 years at 5 to 9 with incentives it would allow them to focus on other areas in the draft and not force a safety in the first or second round or force bishop/rapp to be a starter. A young vet on a prove it deal is perfect, he seems to be a perfect fit to me. This team needs a centerfielder. Cisco would also not stop them from drafting a young safety and give them a group of 4 that can all play. here is the highlight reel I threw together this morning. I really hope they sign him. I may make another reel of this sort for the other guy I want, Darius Slayton. I will see if I have time tomorrow. Quick Note on the reel, I added in the all 22 replay for a couple of plays because the game film didn't show them. The All 22 shots have no audio. Oh and they played Mr. Brightside after he picked off Caleb Williams during the commercial break and Rich Eisen pointed it out when they returned, feels like the universe telling us something. ok that is it unleash the thumbsdown emoji's. Yes you have to watch the video on youtube's site but here is the link. Cisco at the right price would be great. Last year’s Free Agency there were only two safeties that got more than 7.5 per year. Anything more than that for Cisco and I think looking at other options would be better. Rather spend at other positions like corner or DL. Quote
MJS Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Augie said: I think Hamlin is a nice guy and a great story, but he’s small and slow and I think they know we need better coverage back there. Time will tell! Hamlin is 6 ft tall and 200 pounds. He is not a small safety. He also isn't slow or unathletic like some like to claim. His RAS score is a 7, which means he is above average athletically for his position. Quote
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